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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 41,464
    He also called Anderson Cooper "Allison Cooper" in a truth. Homophobic POS. 
    But the Dems lied to us and we had no choice in November, causing the greatest political scandal ever. And if dems don’t acknowledge that they lied and were lied to, Repubs will win everything forever.
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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,960
    He also called Anderson Cooper "Allison Cooper" in a truth. Homophobic POS. 
    But the Dems lied to us and we had no choice in November, causing the greatest political scandal ever. And if dems don’t acknowledge that they lied and were lied to, Repubs will win everything forever.
    Because biden trying to cling to power was worse than anything republicans can ever or will ever do.  Dems just need to admit this.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,769
    He also called Anderson Cooper "Allison Cooper" in a truth. Homophobic POS. 
    But the Dems lied to us and we had no choice in November, causing the greatest political scandal ever. And if dems don’t acknowledge that they lied and were lied to, Repubs will win everything forever.
    So long as you keep posting sarcasm, we will never win an election again.  I think I already pointed out that you carry the burden.  
  • VitalogensiaVitalogensia Posts: 2,182
    edited June 24
    "THE FIELD"
    That’s it. I’m not voting for Biden ever again. For realsies. 
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,722
    static111 said:
    He also called Anderson Cooper "Allison Cooper" in a truth. Homophobic POS. 
    But the Dems lied to us and we had no choice in November, causing the greatest political scandal ever. And if dems don’t acknowledge that they lied and were lied to, Repubs will win everything forever.
    Because biden trying to cling to power was worse than anything republicans can ever or will ever do.  Dems just need to admit this.
    or they will get mopped in elections in perpetuity.
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,566
    "THE FIELD"
    I stopped voting for Hunter Biden years ago. Now I'll add Joe to the No Vote list.

    As for Tulski, I still hate her. It's possible for someone you hate to be right sometimes.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,722
    remember last page when trump thought he was gonna get 2 nobel peace prizes? good times.

    now look at him.
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,566
    "THE FIELD"
    He also called Anderson Cooper "Allison Cooper" in a truth. Homophobic POS. 
    I'll show them how much of a tough guy I am. I'll call this guy by a woman's name. My totally secure masculinity will be undeniable!
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,722
    OnWis97 said:
    He also called Anderson Cooper "Allison Cooper" in a truth. Homophobic POS. 
    I'll show them how much of a tough guy I am. I'll call this guy by a woman's name. My totally secure masculinity will be undeniable!
    "and nobody will question my fitness for office because i am not declining like sleepy joe!!!"
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 41,464
    mrussel1 said:
    He also called Anderson Cooper "Allison Cooper" in a truth. Homophobic POS. 
    But the Dems lied to us and we had no choice in November, causing the greatest political scandal ever. And if dems don’t acknowledge that they lied and were lied to, Repubs will win everything forever.
    So long as you keep posting sarcasm, we will never win an election again.  I think I already pointed out that you carry the burden.  
    And the burden is heavy, many people are saying, the heaviest burden ever. The biggest, heaviest, best burden ever borne, since Atlas, definitely since June 6, 1944 but Atlas’s was heavier, until my burden. My burden is the burden of the burdenist burden of all, ever. It’s a tough burden, heavy. Heaviest of every burden combined. No body has ever seen a burden combo so burdensome as this. It’s really heavy. It’s why I don’t leave my mom’s basement. So heavy I can’t climb the stairs.
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,566
    "THE FIELD"
    Every time you were sarcastic, I donated a dollar to Kari Lake's campaign. And it helped her win (but, you know, she was cheated). I'm also now homeless.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,769
    edited June 24
    mrussel1 said:
    He also called Anderson Cooper "Allison Cooper" in a truth. Homophobic POS. 
    But the Dems lied to us and we had no choice in November, causing the greatest political scandal ever. And if dems don’t acknowledge that they lied and were lied to, Repubs will win everything forever.
    So long as you keep posting sarcasm, we will never win an election again.  I think I already pointed out that you carry the burden.  
    And the burden is heavy, many people are saying, the heaviest burden ever. The biggest, heaviest, best burden ever borne, since Atlas, definitely since June 6, 1944 but Atlas’s was heavier, until my burden. My burden is the burden of the burdenist burden of all, ever. It’s a tough burden, heavy. Heaviest of every burden combined. No body has ever seen a burden combo so burdensome as this. It’s really heavy. It’s why I don’t leave my mom’s basement. So heavy I can’t climb the stairs.


    YOU'RE RUINING EVERYTHING! 
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,722
    OnWis97 said:
    Every time you were sarcastic, I donated a dollar to Kari Lake's campaign. And it helped her win (but, you know, she was cheated). I'm also now homeless.
    sorry to hear. did the gop give you anything for your loyalty and your struggles, or did they tell you to "pull yourself up by your bootstraps and get you broke ass out of here"?
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,566
    "THE FIELD"
    They threw me out of a moving Cyber Truck in the middle of the night.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 41,464
    OnWis97 said:
    They threw me out of a moving Cyber Truck in the middle of the night.
    Was the cyber truck being towed by a Tesla?
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,868
    mrussel1 said:
    He also called Anderson Cooper "Allison Cooper" in a truth. Homophobic POS. 
    But the Dems lied to us and we had no choice in November, causing the greatest political scandal ever. And if dems don’t acknowledge that they lied and were lied to, Repubs will win everything forever.
    So long as you keep posting sarcasm, we will never win an election again.  I think I already pointed out that you carry the burden.  
    And the burden is heavy, many people are saying, the heaviest burden ever. The biggest, heaviest, best burden ever borne, since Atlas, definitely since June 6, 1944 but Atlas’s was heavier, until my burden. My burden is the burden of the burdenist burden of all, ever. It’s a tough burden, heavy. Heaviest of every burden combined. No body has ever seen a burden combo so burdensome as this. It’s really heavy. It’s why I don’t leave my mom’s basement. So heavy I can’t climb the stairs.
    everyone is saying it but no one is talking about it
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,722
    OnWis97 said:
    They threw me out of a moving Cyber Truck in the middle of the night.
    kari lake could have at least sent you a free cameo where she can regale you with perpetual claims of voter fraud over numerous elections in arizona.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,868
    edited June 25
    Christ this presser is fucking insane. Hegseth responds to a question about the damage to Iran by going off on how great the pilots were.

    clearly the trump admin response to any question as to damage to the Iranian program is to respond as if the reporter is insulting the pilots of the planes....fucking off the charts stupid. This all has to be coming from trump.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,722
    Christ this presser is fucking insane. Hegseth responds to a question about the damage to Iran by going off on how great the pilots were.

    clearly the trump admin response to any question as to damage to the Iranian program is to respond as if the reporter is insulting the pilots of the planes....fucking off the charts stupid. This all has to be coming from trump.
    they are all sycophants though so maybe they actually believe what they are saying.
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,505
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    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    That’s a serious comment? So now you’re trusting the pro Syria pro Russia lady about a country within their alliance? You’d do anything anything to support Iran.


    “The dishonest media is intentionally taking my testimony out of context and spreading fake news as a way to manufacture division,” Gabbard wrote to her 600K followers. “America has intelligence that Iran is at the point that it can produce a nuclear weapon within weeks to months, if they decide to finalize the assembly.”
    So what are you saying? Are you slamming Gabbard, the pro-Syria lady, or the “dishonest media” as she calls it?

    I don’t know who is correct. Just found it funny the Ds gave her so much hate a few mos ago, now the Russia/Syria lady is to be believed.
    The question is less about the Russia/Syria lady.  The question is whether the DNI's assessment is right or wrong.  Unless you are suggesting that she was able to create a narrative completely at odds with what the DNI actually determined.  But secondly, this isn't the only bit of information that cause the D's or people like me to question the actual threat.  Israel has been claiming since 1988, literally, that the Iran is weeks/months away from nuclear.  Bibi has stood in front of the Knesset, Congress, and the UN assembly and made these claims year after year.  So what changed this week?  Well my suspicion is the calculus for the Israelis.  I think they believed Trump was going to make a JCPOA type deal so they needed to convince him to let them attack, using trumped up risk.  

    That may or not may be the "D's" thought process.  But it is mine and my independent reading of the situation and the long-tiring scare tactics on this issue.  
    An overwhelming number of defense experts, both in the govt and media, discuss Iran as if it is established fact. I’m simply noting the irony of what Gabbard said, considering her long known allegiances, and the sudden interest on that from the left in the media.
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,472
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    That’s a serious comment? So now you’re trusting the pro Syria pro Russia lady about a country within their alliance? You’d do anything anything to support Iran.


    “The dishonest media is intentionally taking my testimony out of context and spreading fake news as a way to manufacture division,” Gabbard wrote to her 600K followers. “America has intelligence that Iran is at the point that it can produce a nuclear weapon within weeks to months, if they decide to finalize the assembly.”
    So what are you saying? Are you slamming Gabbard, the pro-Syria lady, or the “dishonest media” as she calls it?

    I don’t know who is correct. Just found it funny the Ds gave her so much hate a few mos ago, now the Russia/Syria lady is to be believed.
    The question is less about the Russia/Syria lady.  The question is whether the DNI's assessment is right or wrong.  Unless you are suggesting that she was able to create a narrative completely at odds with what the DNI actually determined.  But secondly, this isn't the only bit of information that cause the D's or people like me to question the actual threat.  Israel has been claiming since 1988, literally, that the Iran is weeks/months away from nuclear.  Bibi has stood in front of the Knesset, Congress, and the UN assembly and made these claims year after year.  So what changed this week?  Well my suspicion is the calculus for the Israelis.  I think they believed Trump was going to make a JCPOA type deal so they needed to convince him to let them attack, using trumped up risk.  

    That may or not may be the "D's" thought process.  But it is mine and my independent reading of the situation and the long-tiring scare tactics on this issue.  
    An overwhelming number of defense experts, both in the govt and media, discuss Iran as if it is established fact. I’m simply noting the irony of what Gabbard said, considering her long known allegiances, and the sudden interest on that from the left in the media.
    The irony is that many on the right were gaga for her and wanted her to be president. She was well regarded and trusted, and now she’s an outcast because she doesn’t align with Trump. The story is everyone has to be a sycophant in his circle. 
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,868
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    That’s a serious comment? So now you’re trusting the pro Syria pro Russia lady about a country within their alliance? You’d do anything anything to support Iran.


    “The dishonest media is intentionally taking my testimony out of context and spreading fake news as a way to manufacture division,” Gabbard wrote to her 600K followers. “America has intelligence that Iran is at the point that it can produce a nuclear weapon within weeks to months, if they decide to finalize the assembly.”
    So what are you saying? Are you slamming Gabbard, the pro-Syria lady, or the “dishonest media” as she calls it?

    I don’t know who is correct. Just found it funny the Ds gave her so much hate a few mos ago, now the Russia/Syria lady is to be believed.
    The question is less about the Russia/Syria lady.  The question is whether the DNI's assessment is right or wrong.  Unless you are suggesting that she was able to create a narrative completely at odds with what the DNI actually determined.  But secondly, this isn't the only bit of information that cause the D's or people like me to question the actual threat.  Israel has been claiming since 1988, literally, that the Iran is weeks/months away from nuclear.  Bibi has stood in front of the Knesset, Congress, and the UN assembly and made these claims year after year.  So what changed this week?  Well my suspicion is the calculus for the Israelis.  I think they believed Trump was going to make a JCPOA type deal so they needed to convince him to let them attack, using trumped up risk.  

    That may or not may be the "D's" thought process.  But it is mine and my independent reading of the situation and the long-tiring scare tactics on this issue.  
    An overwhelming number of defense experts, both in the govt and media, discuss Iran as if it is established fact. I’m simply noting the irony of what Gabbard said, considering her long known allegiances, and the sudden interest on that from the left in the media.
    The irony is that many on the right were gaga for her and wanted her to be president. She was well regarded and trusted, and now she’s an outcast because she doesn’t align with Trump. The story is everyone has to be a sycophant in his circle. 
    exactly...and, again, it isn't that we agree with Gabbard...it's that her statements are the opposite of everyone else's. That should cause concern and review.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,722
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    That’s a serious comment? So now you’re trusting the pro Syria pro Russia lady about a country within their alliance? You’d do anything anything to support Iran.


    “The dishonest media is intentionally taking my testimony out of context and spreading fake news as a way to manufacture division,” Gabbard wrote to her 600K followers. “America has intelligence that Iran is at the point that it can produce a nuclear weapon within weeks to months, if they decide to finalize the assembly.”
    So what are you saying? Are you slamming Gabbard, the pro-Syria lady, or the “dishonest media” as she calls it?

    I don’t know who is correct. Just found it funny the Ds gave her so much hate a few mos ago, now the Russia/Syria lady is to be believed.
    The question is less about the Russia/Syria lady.  The question is whether the DNI's assessment is right or wrong.  Unless you are suggesting that she was able to create a narrative completely at odds with what the DNI actually determined.  But secondly, this isn't the only bit of information that cause the D's or people like me to question the actual threat.  Israel has been claiming since 1988, literally, that the Iran is weeks/months away from nuclear.  Bibi has stood in front of the Knesset, Congress, and the UN assembly and made these claims year after year.  So what changed this week?  Well my suspicion is the calculus for the Israelis.  I think they believed Trump was going to make a JCPOA type deal so they needed to convince him to let them attack, using trumped up risk.  

    That may or not may be the "D's" thought process.  But it is mine and my independent reading of the situation and the long-tiring scare tactics on this issue.  
    An overwhelming number of defense experts, both in the govt and media, discuss Iran as if it is established fact. I’m simply noting the irony of what Gabbard said, considering her long known allegiances, and the sudden interest on that from the left in the media.
    The irony is that many on the right were gaga for her and wanted her to be president. She was well regarded and trusted, and now she’s an outcast because she doesn’t align with Trump. The story is everyone has to be a sycophant in his circle. 
    exactly...and, again, it isn't that we agree with Gabbard...it's that her statements are the opposite of everyone else's. That should cause concern and review.
    and given that is goes against the trumpworld narrative, it is more likely to be true to an extent.
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    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,868
    I really cannot imagine the chaos behind the scenes of this piece of shit administration.

    The need to constantly lie and spin and bolster trump's ego has to just be nerve wracking.

    Why don't we see the Chief of Staff? Where is that idiot?
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,505
    "THE FIELD"
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    That’s a serious comment? So now you’re trusting the pro Syria pro Russia lady about a country within their alliance? You’d do anything anything to support Iran.


    “The dishonest media is intentionally taking my testimony out of context and spreading fake news as a way to manufacture division,” Gabbard wrote to her 600K followers. “America has intelligence that Iran is at the point that it can produce a nuclear weapon within weeks to months, if they decide to finalize the assembly.”
    So what are you saying? Are you slamming Gabbard, the pro-Syria lady, or the “dishonest media” as she calls it?

    I don’t know who is correct. Just found it funny the Ds gave her so much hate a few mos ago, now the Russia/Syria lady is to be believed.
    The question is less about the Russia/Syria lady.  The question is whether the DNI's assessment is right or wrong.  Unless you are suggesting that she was able to create a narrative completely at odds with what the DNI actually determined.  But secondly, this isn't the only bit of information that cause the D's or people like me to question the actual threat.  Israel has been claiming since 1988, literally, that the Iran is weeks/months away from nuclear.  Bibi has stood in front of the Knesset, Congress, and the UN assembly and made these claims year after year.  So what changed this week?  Well my suspicion is the calculus for the Israelis.  I think they believed Trump was going to make a JCPOA type deal so they needed to convince him to let them attack, using trumped up risk.  

    That may or not may be the "D's" thought process.  But it is mine and my independent reading of the situation and the long-tiring scare tactics on this issue.  
    An overwhelming number of defense experts, both in the govt and media, discuss Iran as if it is established fact. I’m simply noting the irony of what Gabbard said, considering her long known allegiances, and the sudden interest on that from the left in the media.
    The irony is that many on the right were gaga for her and wanted her to be president. She was well regarded and trusted, and now she’s an outcast because she doesn’t align with Trump. The story is everyone has to be a sycophant in his circle. 
    exactly...and, again, it isn't that we agree with Gabbard...it's that her statements are the opposite of everyone else's. That should cause concern and review.

    That’s only because she was viewed as a conquest of a dem convert, not that she is some sort of elegant stateswoman. And she has always been viewed as inexperienced in international affairs, until dt wanted a couple Dems in his gang.


    Please forgive me if I’m misremember but wasn’t she was run out of the dem party and primaries five years ago for her perceived allegiances to Russia? And all of a sudden she is taking the Axis position on Iran , while most every other defense expert disagrees with her?
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,769
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    That’s a serious comment? So now you’re trusting the pro Syria pro Russia lady about a country within their alliance? You’d do anything anything to support Iran.


    “The dishonest media is intentionally taking my testimony out of context and spreading fake news as a way to manufacture division,” Gabbard wrote to her 600K followers. “America has intelligence that Iran is at the point that it can produce a nuclear weapon within weeks to months, if they decide to finalize the assembly.”
    So what are you saying? Are you slamming Gabbard, the pro-Syria lady, or the “dishonest media” as she calls it?

    I don’t know who is correct. Just found it funny the Ds gave her so much hate a few mos ago, now the Russia/Syria lady is to be believed.
    The question is less about the Russia/Syria lady.  The question is whether the DNI's assessment is right or wrong.  Unless you are suggesting that she was able to create a narrative completely at odds with what the DNI actually determined.  But secondly, this isn't the only bit of information that cause the D's or people like me to question the actual threat.  Israel has been claiming since 1988, literally, that the Iran is weeks/months away from nuclear.  Bibi has stood in front of the Knesset, Congress, and the UN assembly and made these claims year after year.  So what changed this week?  Well my suspicion is the calculus for the Israelis.  I think they believed Trump was going to make a JCPOA type deal so they needed to convince him to let them attack, using trumped up risk.  

    That may or not may be the "D's" thought process.  But it is mine and my independent reading of the situation and the long-tiring scare tactics on this issue.  
    An overwhelming number of defense experts, both in the govt and media, discuss Iran as if it is established fact. I’m simply noting the irony of what Gabbard said, considering her long known allegiances, and the sudden interest on that from the left in the media.
    "discuss Iran as if it is an established fact.".  I don't know what this means.  

    Second, I read National Review, daily.  That is neocon headquarters.  The same analysts are making the same arguments that they did in 2002.  Elliot Abrams, Rich Lowry, the whole gang is back together now praising Trump.  You'll have to excuse me for being cynical.  I didn't believe the threat in 2002 and I don't believe the threat level today.  
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,868
    mickeyrat said:

    awesome
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