Ed's Speech Pittsburgh 5/18, Bruce, & America

1235»

Comments

  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,546
    DragonsAfter3or4 said:
    Shame he didn't use his platform for the women that have been raped and murdered by those illegally here.
    Would have been so fkn special..
    Or point out Trump scapegoating a minority group during the campaign to manipulate and rage bait his supporters, and then not follow through with the promised mass deportations after getting elected. 
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,465
    DragonsAfter3or4 said:
    Shame he didn't use his platform for the women that have been raped and murdered by those illegally here.
    Would have been so fkn special..
    He didn't rank all the Nightmare on Elm Street films either. I think he has never ranked any horror series live on stage. 

    Would have been so fkn special..
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • DM282158
    DM282158 Beverly, MA Posts: 658
    vedpunk said:
    This run of shows had just enough political commentary.  Opinions were expressed and heard with respect. No need to consistently get on a soapbox and alienate half the crowd.   Sometimes people just want to enjoy a rock show and leave their troubles behind for a couple hours. Ed did a great job balancing this. The media will always be paid to fan the flames and rile up the masses.  Don’t take the bait. 
    10/10. I think they’re very careful now and express things very maturely. It’s not 2003 anymore unfortunately. Imagine if Eddie put on a Trump mask. It’d be anarchy, no matter what percentage of fan at a show is a supporter. 

    And the media will always fan the flames to your point. 
    Boston '06
    Mansfield '08
    Hartford '10
    Worcester, Hartford '13
    Global Citizen, NY '15
  • gotthebottle
    gotthebottle San Diego Posts: 3,743
    DragonsAfter3or4 said:
    Shame he didn't use his platform for the women that have been raped and murdered by those illegally here.
    Would have been so fkn special..
    Would have lived to hear him use his platform for the women who have been raped and murdered by THOSE HERE LEGALLY AND NOT IMMIGRANTS AT ALL!! 
    Way more of those cases than the ones you're talking about
  • curmudgeoness
    curmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 4,130
    gotthebottle said:
    DragonsAfter3or4 said:
    Shame he didn't use his platform for the women that have been raped and murdered by those illegally here.
    Would have been so fkn special..
    Would have lived to hear him use his platform for the women who have been raped and murdered by THOSE HERE LEGALLY AND NOT IMMIGRANTS AT ALL!! 
    Way more of those cases than the ones you're talking about

    Thank you.
    All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and shortest means to accomplish it.
  • payling
    payling Seattle Posts: 412
    DragonsAfter3or4 said:
    Shame he didn't use his platform for the women that have been raped and murdered by those illegally here.
    Would have been so fkn special..
    Crime rate in the US amongst Non-legal immigrants is far lower than citizens. Particularly white “Christians”..  
    PA
  • mookeywrench
    mookeywrench Posts: 6,060
    Go Beavers said:
    mookeywrench said:
    Go Beavers said:
    DE4173 said:
    I would say it's hypocritical.
    I know. That’s what I’m saying. You pulled a quote from 25-30 years ago that has almost zero relevancy to deflect from his point. The thing is, everyone who wants things to progress forward can be deemed a hypocrite by people who resist change. 
    2003 tour so 23 years ago, in fairness Trump's "grab em" quote was 2005 and pretty much everyone outside of his cult want him held accountable for it.
    You’re equating Trump telling us he’s a sex offender to Ed’s quote? 
    I'm equating Eddie Vedder's machismo quote to Trump's machismo quote, free of any bias.


  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,546
    mookeywrench said:
    Go Beavers said:
    mookeywrench said:
    Go Beavers said:
    DE4173 said:
    I would say it's hypocritical.
    I know. That’s what I’m saying. You pulled a quote from 25-30 years ago that has almost zero relevancy to deflect from his point. The thing is, everyone who wants things to progress forward can be deemed a hypocrite by people who resist change. 
    2003 tour so 23 years ago, in fairness Trump's "grab em" quote was 2005 and pretty much everyone outside of his cult want him held accountable for it.
    You’re equating Trump telling us he’s a sex offender to Ed’s quote? 
    I'm equating Eddie Vedder's machismo quote to Trump's machismo quote, free of any bias.


    You have to engage in a high level of bias to claim two different things are the same. 
  • mookeywrench
    mookeywrench Posts: 6,060
    No. Just no bias.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,546
    mookeywrench said:
    No. Just no bias.
    Okay. What’s your experience with sex offenders and their thought processes? 
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,769
    Context ≠ bias
  • enddem
    enddem Posts: 184
    Bentleyspop said:
    DE4173 said:
    Ed has his microphone, Bruce has his, Trump has social media, etc.

    None of them are having conversations or debates with their audiences. They are all one-sided. Sure the crowd could applaud or boo, but it's talking/preaching to their fans 

    Maybe it could be a reason why the band prefers the same people up front (please see "Same folks up front" thread). I couldn't imagine if you had some maga up front at some shows. 🤪
    Dropkicks get it.
    https://youtube.com/shorts/OXJNBhUdBw4?si=3Ok3G9drwY8WRfOJ
    I thought of the same exact exchange when I read that comment 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    curmudgeoness said:
    gotthebottle said:
    DragonsAfter3or4 said:
    Shame he didn't use his platform for the women that have been raped and murdered by those illegally here.
    Would have been so fkn special..
    Would have lived to hear him use his platform for the women who have been raped and murdered by THOSE HERE LEGALLY AND NOT IMMIGRANTS AT ALL!! 
    Way more of those cases than the ones you're talking about

    Thank you.

    Yes!  I'll second that "thank you".
    Excellent point, gotthebottle.

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • enddem
    enddem Posts: 184
    DragonsAfter3or4 said:
    Shame he didn't use his platform for the women that have been raped and murdered by those illegally here.
    Would have been so fkn special..
    Statistics and research are abundantly clear. Sexual violence is overwhelmingly committed by people the victim knows (and intimate partners, in particular). Citizens commit, both on average and in quantity, more crimes than do immigrants (documented or otherwise). And while we're on the topic, frat boys are several times more likely to commit an act of rape than any other group in the general populace.

    All sexual violence and murder are bad. If you in fact cared about that, you would be striking a decidedly feminist tone and critiquing longstanding structural inequalities--not singling out the undocumented. 
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,409

  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,955
    Went to the beach today and saw a bunch of these signs up around town here in NJ.  👍🏻




    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh


Categories