Ed's Speech Pittsburgh 5/18, Bruce, & America

DE4173 · May 23

No way that's real 🤣

tbergs · May 23

LukinAtU said:

Always the best fans posting fakes memes. Nice work.

trees · May 23

I think its great eV did this .
They did Bu$hleger and went after him servel years during thier time as president.
Plus vote for change tour.
And Quick escape song .
Its good to call out dictatorship

vedpunk · May 23

This run of shows had just enough political commentary. Opinions were expressed and heard with respect. No need to consistently get on a soapbox and alienate half the crowd. Sometimes people just want to enjoy a rock show and leave their troubles behind for a couple hours. Ed did a great job balancing this. The media will always be paid to fan the flames and rile up the masses. Don’t take the bait.

brianlux · May 23

mcdevittpb said:

brianlux said:

mcdevittpb said:

It’s a shame to see all this hate in the world. I think it’s incumbent upon ourselves, to govern ourselves accordingly, be kind to one another, and exchange in positive and productive dialogue. BE THE CHANGE WE WANT TO SEE. Rather than name calling and spewing hate. That solves nothing. But if you offer DIVERSITY of thought here, you will get pounced on.

In this case, diversity means you are either in favor of living in a democracy, or you prefer tyranny and dictatorship of rule by highly corrupt people who only want power and more money than they can ever spend. Yes, I believe people on either side of that divide have the right to speak their mind. But on the fan site of a band like Pearl Jam, if you think people are going to be receptive to support for tyranny with open arms, well... that's probably not going to happen.

I am certainly IN favor of a democracy, and certainly NOT in favor of a tyrannical dictator felon president.

AND, I fully support what Ed said in Pittsburgh and cheer him for using his platform to advocate for things he believes him.

(I recall that Ed also said something about getting back to debating issues rather than personal attacks?)… yes, he did.

Debating the issues and ways to solve problems that plague our world, open exchange of ideas, that’s how we advance and evolve. That is what I mean by diversity of thought.

That said, you have made my point.

Sounds right, good reply, thanks.

ComeToTX · May 23

vedpunk said:

This run of shows had just enough political commentary. Opinions were expressed and heard with respect. No need to consistently get on a soapbox and alienate half the crowd. Sometimes people just want to enjoy a rock show and leave their troubles behind for a couple hours. Ed did a great job balancing this. The media will always be paid to fan the flames and rile up the masses. Don’t take the bait.

I don’t think he’s alienating anywhere close to half of the crowd.

DE4173 · May 23

I agree. If anything, he preaches to the choir.

josevolution · May 23

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/articles/bruce-springsteen-cover-band-jersey-150140229.html

The bar owner canceled the gig what a douche 😂

smile6680 · May 24

I'm not sure why this thread isn't on the moving train forum? It's weird what gets moved and what stays.

Bentleyspop · May 24

Spiritual_Chaos · May 24

smile6680 said:

I'm not sure why this thread isn't on the moving train forum? It's weird what gets moved and what stays.

It’s about Pearl Jam and a Pearl Jam concert.

mookeywrench · May 24

Go Beavers said:

DE4173 said:

I would say it's hypocritical.

I know. That’s what I’m saying. You pulled a quote from 25-30 years ago that has almost zero relevancy to deflect from his point. The thing is, everyone who wants things to progress forward can be deemed a hypocrite by people who resist change.

2003 tour so 23 years ago, in fairness Trump's "grab em" quote was 2005 and pretty much everyone outside of his cult want him held accountable for it.

trees · May 24

smile6680 said:

I'm not sure why this thread isn't on the moving train forum? It's weird what gets moved and what stays.

Thats a good point

DE4173 · May 24

Here's Ed's quote for further discussion purposes:

"The response had nothing to do with the issues. They didn’t talk about one of those issues, they didn’t have a conversation about one of those issues. They didn’t debate any one of those issues. All that we heard were personal attacks and threats that nobody else should try to use their microphones or voice in public or they’ll be shut down. Now that’s not allowed in this country that we call America. Am I right or am I wrong? Part of free speech is open discussion. Part of democracy is healthy public discourse. The name-calling is so beneath us. Bruce has always been as pro-American with his values and liberty, and his justice has always remained intact. And I’m saying this now to be sure this freedom to speak will still exist in a year or two when we come back to this microphone.”

trees · May 24

Bentleyspop said:

Hopefully less this will be removed from office.
Its going down through the process
Hope it happens very soon

DE4173 · May 24

Ed has his microphone, Bruce has his, Trump has social media, etc.

None of them are having conversations or debates with their audiences. They are all one-sided. Sure the crowd could applaud or boo, but it's talking/preaching to their fans

Maybe it could be a reason why the band prefers the same people up front (please see "Same folks up front" thread). I couldn't imagine if you had some maga up front at some shows. 🤪

DE4173 · May 24

smile6680 said:

I'm not sure why this thread isn't on the moving train forum? It's weird what gets moved and what stays.

I agree with Spiritual_Chaos's answer of It’s about Pearl Jam and a Pearl Jam concert.

This thread would be locked within a day if moved into AMT. 🤣

As long as there is productive discussion here that is both respectful and free of personal attacks on each other, it's nice to hear each other's opinions. ✌️

Bentleyspop · May 24

DE4173 said:

Ed has his microphone, Bruce has his, Trump has social media, etc.

None of them are having conversations or debates with their audiences. They are all one-sided. Sure the crowd could applaud or boo, but it's talking/preaching to their fans

Maybe it could be a reason why the band prefers the same people up front (please see "Same folks up front" thread). I couldn't imagine if you had some maga up front at some shows. 🤪

Dropkicks get it.
https://youtube.com/shorts/OXJNBhUdBw4?si=3Ok3G9drwY8WRfOJ

DragonsAfter3or4 · May 24

Shame he didn't use his platform for the women that have been raped and murdered by those illegally here.
Would have been so fkn special..

Go Beavers · May 24

mookeywrench said:

Go Beavers said:

DE4173 said:

I would say it's hypocritical.

I know. That’s what I’m saying. You pulled a quote from 25-30 years ago that has almost zero relevancy to deflect from his point. The thing is, everyone who wants things to progress forward can be deemed a hypocrite by people who resist change.

2003 tour so 23 years ago, in fairness Trump's "grab em" quote was 2005 and pretty much everyone outside of his cult want him held accountable for it.

You’re equating Trump telling us he’s a sex offender to Ed’s quote?

Go Beavers · May 24

DragonsAfter3or4 said:

Shame he didn't use his platform for the women that have been raped and murdered by those illegally here.
Would have been so fkn special..

Or point out Trump scapegoating a minority group during the campaign to manipulate and rage bait his supporters, and then not follow through with the promised mass deportations after getting elected.

Spiritual_Chaos · May 24

DragonsAfter3or4 said:

Shame he didn't use his platform for the women that have been raped and murdered by those illegally here.
Would have been so fkn special..

He didn't rank all the Nightmare on Elm Street films either. I think he has never ranked any horror series live on stage.

Would have been so fkn special..

DM282158 · May 24

vedpunk said:

This run of shows had just enough political commentary. Opinions were expressed and heard with respect. No need to consistently get on a soapbox and alienate half the crowd. Sometimes people just want to enjoy a rock show and leave their troubles behind for a couple hours. Ed did a great job balancing this. The media will always be paid to fan the flames and rile up the masses. Don’t take the bait.

10/10. I think they’re very careful now and express things very maturely. It’s not 2003 anymore unfortunately. Imagine if Eddie put on a Trump mask. It’d be anarchy, no matter what percentage of fan at a show is a supporter.

And the media will always fan the flames to your point.

gotthebottle · May 24

DragonsAfter3or4 said:

Shame he didn't use his platform for the women that have been raped and murdered by those illegally here.
Would have been so fkn special..

Would have lived to hear him use his platform for the women who have been raped and murdered by THOSE HERE LEGALLY AND NOT IMMIGRANTS AT ALL!!
Way more of those cases than the ones you're talking about

curmudgeoness · May 24

gotthebottle said:

DragonsAfter3or4 said:

Shame he didn't use his platform for the women that have been raped and murdered by those illegally here.
Would have been so fkn special..

Would have lived to hear him use his platform for the women who have been raped and murdered by THOSE HERE LEGALLY AND NOT IMMIGRANTS AT ALL!!
Way more of those cases than the ones you're talking about

Thank you.

payling · May 24

DragonsAfter3or4 said:

Shame he didn't use his platform for the women that have been raped and murdered by those illegally here.
Would have been so fkn special..

Crime rate in the US amongst Non-legal immigrants is far lower than citizens. Particularly white “Christians”..

mookeywrench · May 25

Go Beavers said:

mookeywrench said:

Go Beavers said:

DE4173 said:

I would say it's hypocritical.

I know. That’s what I’m saying. You pulled a quote from 25-30 years ago that has almost zero relevancy to deflect from his point. The thing is, everyone who wants things to progress forward can be deemed a hypocrite by people who resist change.

2003 tour so 23 years ago, in fairness Trump's "grab em" quote was 2005 and pretty much everyone outside of his cult want him held accountable for it.

You’re equating Trump telling us he’s a sex offender to Ed’s quote?

I'm equating Eddie Vedder's machismo quote to Trump's machismo quote, free of any bias.

Go Beavers · May 25

mookeywrench said:

Go Beavers said:

mookeywrench said:

Go Beavers said:

DE4173 said:

I would say it's hypocritical.

I know. That’s what I’m saying. You pulled a quote from 25-30 years ago that has almost zero relevancy to deflect from his point. The thing is, everyone who wants things to progress forward can be deemed a hypocrite by people who resist change.

2003 tour so 23 years ago, in fairness Trump's "grab em" quote was 2005 and pretty much everyone outside of his cult want him held accountable for it.

You’re equating Trump telling us he’s a sex offender to Ed’s quote?

I'm equating Eddie Vedder's machismo quote to Trump's machismo quote, free of any bias.

You have to engage in a high level of bias to claim two different things are the same.

mookeywrench · May 25

No. Just no bias.

Go Beavers · May 25

mookeywrench said:

No. Just no bias.

Okay. What’s your experience with sex offenders and their thought processes?

Ed's Speech Pittsburgh 5/18, Bruce, & America

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