Worldwide suicide (116) is the most commonly played that I’ve never seen.
Fatal (9) is the song I’ve never seen that I’d most like to see.
Over 10 years since WWS was last played anywhere (2014 Adelaide, Aus) and 12 years since last played in the USA (2013 Dallas). That does seems like a bit of a weird anomaly for a song which was the lead single from Avocado.
Fenway 2024 was much better than Fenway 2018 but as SVRDhand13 says, 2016 beats them both quite a bit. With 2016 night 2 being the crown jewel of all 6, IMO. For me, I think playing at Fenway has just lost it's luster at this point. Get back to TD or Worcester bub.
I could honestly flip a coin between Fenway '18 & Fenway '24.... '24 gets a slight edge as I had GA for N1 (thnx J) & we got In My Tree that night (all time favorite song) but yeah... after 2016, I'm all set. I would love to have them back at the Garden.
& Yes... Fenway 2 2016 is a top 3 PJ show for me.
Oddly I always enjoyed Night 1 more than Night 2.... not sure why. I have to go back and listen to both again.
2016 N1 was one hell of a show, but N2 for me was one of those nights where the reciprocated energy between the band and the crowd just seemed to transcend most other shows (but hey.... different strokes)
But regardless, yes... the 2016 Fenway shows >>> Every other Fenway show since. In fairness, those were more / less played in the twilight of the epic 34+/- song setlists that had defined their shows for several years, so that's a tough bar to clear especially post covid since they've scaled it back. (Philly 1 '24 did it though, so we know they're still capable of pulling it off! )
53 shows (from studio albums) most common played songs I've never seen:
Mankind 45 Can't keep 28 (seen by Ed solo) Bushleager 32 Parting ways 26 Supersonic 19 Get right 17 Arc 9 (seen by Ed solo) Bugs 3
Rare songs I've seen: Other side, Fatal, Sad, Don't give me no lip, Of the earth, Out of my mind, Undone, In the moonlight, Education, Alone, Drifting, River Cross, Buckle up, Santa Cruz, Around the bend, Hold on(last night)
Thank the heavens I finally got Deep at FL1 at my 20th show. While Satan's Bed is now my most wanted, the most common studio album and lost dogs tracks I haven't seen are Breakerfall (90) and Wash (101).
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1998 (#1-2) East Lansing & Auburn Hills; 2000 (#3-4) Tampa & Noblesville; 2003 (#5-6) Lexington & Noblesville; 2006 (#7)Cincinnati; 2007 (#8) Chicago (Lollapalooza); 2008 - Ed in Milwaukee; 2009 (#9)Chicago; 2010 (#10) Noblesville; 2013 (#11-13) San Diego & Los Angeles I & II; 2016 -Temple of the Dog in Los Angeles; 2017 -Ed in Dana Point (Ohana); 2021 (#14-16) Dana Point (Ohana) I, II & III; 2022 (#17-19) San Diego & Inglewood I & II; 2025 (#20-21) Hollywood I & II
Still Indifference for me in 30 shows. Played 178 times and once in each of the last 3 cities this year. If it dodges me again in Pittsburgh it’s going to hurt cause I should have been in Raleigh.
On the opposite end, I’ve heard No Way 3 of the 12 times played Hold On 2 out of the 6 times played Ans Bugs 2 of the 3 times played.
53 shows (from studio albums) most common played songs I've never seen:
Mankind 45 Can't keep 28 (seen by Ed solo) Bushleager 32 Parting ways 26 Supersonic 19 Get right 17 Arc 9 (seen by Ed solo) Bugs 3
Rare songs I've seen: Other side, Fatal, Sad, Don't give me no lip, Of the earth, Out of my mind, Undone, In the moonlight, Education, Alone, Drifting, River Cross, Buckle up, Santa Cruz, Around the bend, Hold on(last night)
Wow, that is also my most unheard through 31 shows but seeing that stat shows you how incredibly rare it is now. I started going to shows in 2009 and a lot of the songs I heard that tour are rarely played now.
We still get fairly varied sets, but I think it's a lot less now than it used to be. One or two "rare" songs per night seem to be all.
Formerly Brew Crew Tix “If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world.
Grievance was a WTF moment for Pittsburgh 1. Grievance. Great song. Fun song. But holy hell, how has it come to the point where Grievance is a white whale? Too many songs to fit in a 25 song set I guess.
I'm glad I haven't started song chasing the last few years. Although the hope is fun. Was great to get Got to Give in Pitt to finish off all of the album songs played live again.
Wow, that is also my most unheard through 31 shows but seeing that stat shows you how incredibly rare it is now. I started going to shows in 2009 and a lot of the songs I heard that tour are rarely played now.
We still get fairly varied sets, but I think it's a lot less now than it used to be. One or two "rare" songs per night seem to be all.
15 of the 22 times in North America as well, which gets a bit to the luck factor. I am not saying this to be a dick, it is just luck of the draw, I have caught it 4 of the last 11 times it was played. And I am not an "every show guy", been to my fair share, but sometimes the way the setlist fall is random. The only time I felt very good odds of getting it was Missoula last summer given Missoula is often going to have a good handful of Jeff tunes on the set.
In the course of their touring, 1 or 2 rarer songs per night is actually pretty pretty good. In hindsight some older sets look full of rarities because time has made them rarities. They have actually done a really good job given their slavish deference to Ten post covid in dropping some nuggets almost every night, some certainly loom more rare than others, but basically every night this last run got at least 2-3 lesser played songs per night (not including Dark Matter songs and covers) it sort of all depends on your personal stats and what you are chasing.
these are selections that have a rarity score above 80 from Livefootsteps.org
4.24 - Oceans (102nd) Amongst the Waves (56th) Leatherman (67th) - technically Down should be in here too, but it is crazy that it is has been played as much as Oceans. Footsteps technically too given when it was debuted to today it scores an 86 this one pops up again on 5.16 4.26 - Of the Girl (57th) Faithfull (106th) 4.29 - Can't Keep (28th) In Hiding (100th) Inside Job (71st) 5.1 - All Those Yesterdays (25th) Off he Goes (127th) Leash (137th) 5.3 - Tremor Christ (87th) Love Boat Captain (100th) Red Mosquito (96th) 5.6 - Lowlight (95th) Brain of J (135th) Green Disease (67th) Come Back (58th) 5.8 - Long Road (99th) this show is the least of the bunch though but a case can be made for Insignificance in that it has only been played 6 times 2014 onward. 5.11 - Light Years (97th) Hold On (6th!) Smile (92nd) Satan's Bed (43rd) 5.13 - Amongst the Waves (57th) Untitled (55th) In My Tree (103rd) Bee Girl (27th) 5.16 - Sleight of Hand (52nd) Grievance (while not an 80 rarity score, was "In Hiding" for 123 shows since 8.5.15) Man of the Hour (54th) as noted footsteps technically and also another appearance by Lowlight 5.18 - This show really only has Future Days as a bust out at 18th time played, but at rarity score above 80 you do have Garden which I over looked earlier and Nothingman and Deep also overlooked earlier and Faithfull for 2nd time this run. Plus the Hungerstrike etc
If you have not checked out Livefootsteps.org highly recommend Dave's work. It is a treasure trove of information and we are lucky he was crazy enough to do this for stat nerds.
I got a few new songs for me this tour to add to my stats. I wasn’t in Raleigh so didn’t get the rarest ones. But I got Future Days, Faithfull, Sleight of Hand, and Got to Give. You mentioned Footsteps as being somewhat rare as well. I have seen that one 8 times so far. Also, Hunger Strike was a first for me. I saw Ed perform it solo, but never saw it with PJ. That was magical.
Dissident - 207 (my favorite Vs song) In Hiding - 99 (fave Yield song) Red Mosquito - 96 (yep, No Code fave) Sometimes - 89 Rats - 61
That list has some tough breaks in it too for the shows you have gone to. Not that you don't realize it, but that is a tough break.
I’ve gotten some really good rarities over the years, too, so it balances out pretty well. Some are not quite as rare anymore but I’ve gotten quite a few “white whales” that many ppl still seek.
Still would be nice to hear some of my all-time favorite songs one day!
Mine is firmly Spin the Black Circle (played 200 times): a song I never really cared for much.
I love that song. I kinda grew up into punk music, so I enjoy the energy of that one. I'm also always reminded of it when I go into my favorite local record shop, Easy Street Records, as the lyrics are painted on the steps leading upstairs. I've seen PJ 4 times and they've played it twice.
The song I haven't heard is Dissident.
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Updated. Thanks for Grievance and Insignificance! (and also Sleight of Hand - "hand trilogy" lol)
19 shows.
Glorified G
I Am Mine
Life Wasted
Light Years
Wasted Reprise
Leatherman
Sad
Soon Forget
Spectrum 10/27/09; New Orleans JazzFest 5/1/10; Made in America 9/2/12; Phila, PA 10/21/13; Phila, PA 10/22/13; Baltimore Arena 10/27/13; Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22; Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24; Pittsburgh 5/16/25; Pittsburgh 5/18/25
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
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Worldwide suicide (116) is the most commonly played that I’ve never seen.
Fatal (9) is the song I’ve never seen that I’d most like to see.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
But regardless, yes... the 2016 Fenway shows >>> Every other Fenway show since. In fairness, those were more / less played in the twilight of the epic 34+/- song setlists that had defined their shows for several years, so that's a tough bar to clear especially post covid since they've scaled it back. (Philly 1 '24 did it though, so we know they're still capable of pulling it off!
It’s one of my all-time favorite PJ songs, too.
2024: Wrigley II, Fenway II
2025: Hollywood II, Nashville I & II, Pittsburgh I & II
Mankind 45
Can't keep 28 (seen by Ed solo)
Bushleager 32
Parting ways 26
Supersonic 19
Get right 17
Arc 9 (seen by Ed solo)
Bugs 3
Rare songs I've seen: Other side, Fatal, Sad, Don't give me no lip, Of the earth, Out of my mind, Undone, In the moonlight, Education, Alone, Drifting, River Cross, Buckle up, Santa Cruz, Around the bend, Hold on(last night)
2008 - Ed in Milwaukee; 2009 (#9) Chicago; 2010 (#10) Noblesville; 2013 (#11-13) San Diego & Los Angeles I & II; 2016 -Temple of the Dog in Los Angeles;
2017 - Ed in Dana Point (Ohana); 2021 (#14-16) Dana Point (Ohana) I, II & III; 2022 (#17-19) San Diego & Inglewood I & II; 2025 (#20-21) Hollywood I & II
On the opposite end,
I’ve heard No Way 3 of the 12 times played
Hold On 2 out of the 6 times played
Ans Bugs 2 of the 3 times played.
Cropduster is now my most commonly played but never seen song.
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http://www.livefootsteps.org/user/?usr=3652
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1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
http://www.hi5sports.org/ (Sports Program for Kids with Disabilities)
http://www.livefootsteps.org/user/?usr=3652
Dissident - 207 (my favorite Vs song)
In Hiding - 99 (fave Yield song)
Red Mosquito - 96 (yep, No Code fave)
Sometimes - 89
Rats - 61
http://www.hi5sports.org/ (Sports Program for Kids with Disabilities)
http://www.livefootsteps.org/user/?usr=3652
http://www.hi5sports.org/ (Sports Program for Kids with Disabilities)
http://www.livefootsteps.org/user/?usr=3652
We still get fairly varied sets, but I think it's a lot less now than it used to be. One or two "rare" songs per night seem to be all.
“If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world.
I'm glad I haven't started song chasing the last few years. Although the hope is fun. Was great to get Got to Give in Pitt to finish off all of the album songs played live again.
In the course of their touring, 1 or 2 rarer songs per night is actually pretty pretty good. In hindsight some older sets look full of rarities because time has made them rarities. They have actually done a really good job given their slavish deference to Ten post covid in dropping some nuggets almost every night, some certainly loom more rare than others, but basically every night this last run got at least 2-3 lesser played songs per night (not including Dark Matter songs and covers) it sort of all depends on your personal stats and what you are chasing.
these are selections that have a rarity score above 80 from Livefootsteps.org
4.24 - Oceans (102nd) Amongst the Waves (56th) Leatherman (67th) - technically Down should be in here too, but it is crazy that it is has been played as much as Oceans. Footsteps technically too given when it was debuted to today it scores an 86 this one pops up again on 5.16
4.26 - Of the Girl (57th) Faithfull (106th)
4.29 - Can't Keep (28th) In Hiding (100th) Inside Job (71st)
5.1 - All Those Yesterdays (25th) Off he Goes (127th) Leash (137th)
5.3 - Tremor Christ (87th) Love Boat Captain (100th) Red Mosquito (96th)
5.6 - Lowlight (95th) Brain of J (135th) Green Disease (67th) Come Back (58th)
5.8 - Long Road (99th) this show is the least of the bunch though but a case can be made for Insignificance in that it has only been played 6 times 2014 onward.
5.11 - Light Years (97th) Hold On (6th!) Smile (92nd) Satan's Bed (43rd)
5.13 - Amongst the Waves (57th) Untitled (55th) In My Tree (103rd) Bee Girl (27th)
5.16 - Sleight of Hand (52nd) Grievance (while not an 80 rarity score, was "In Hiding" for 123 shows since 8.5.15) Man of the Hour (54th) as noted footsteps technically and also another appearance by Lowlight
5.18 - This show really only has Future Days as a bust out at 18th time played, but at rarity score above 80 you do have Garden which I over looked earlier and Nothingman and Deep also overlooked earlier and Faithfull for 2nd time this run. Plus the Hungerstrike etc
If you have not checked out Livefootsteps.org highly recommend Dave's work. It is a treasure trove of information and we are lucky he was crazy enough to do this for stat nerds.
http://www.hi5sports.org/ (Sports Program for Kids with Disabilities)
http://www.livefootsteps.org/user/?usr=3652
Mine is firmly Spin the Black Circle (played 200 times): a song I never really cared for much.
The song I haven't heard is Dissident.
19 shows.
Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22;
Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24; Pittsburgh 5/16/25; Pittsburgh 5/18/25
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
"...I changed by not changing at all..."