Happy 12th Lightning Bolt

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  • deb1211
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  • igotid88
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  • wnh1977
    wnh1977 Iowa Posts: 651
    I think Lightning Bolt would benefit from subtraction.  Get rid of "Let the Records Play" and "Sleeping by Myself"... plus get rid of the opening and closing piano (played by Brendan O'Brien) on "Future Days".  That doesn't automatically make "Future Days" one of their top closers, but it improves it a bit.  It's now a 10-song, 39 or 40 minute album at that point (Backspacer was 11 songs, 37 minutes).  I might shuffle the order on "side 2" a bit after the 2 omissions, but I think this makes it a much, much better album.  

    "Let the Records Play" and "Sleeping by Myself" just kill the album.  I should've been brought in with these suggestions.  Big miss by the band for not reaching out to me.

    Side 1
    Getaway
    Mind Your Manners
    My Father's Son
    Sirens
    Lightning Bolt

    Side 2
    Pendulum (used as a concert opener a lot... would work great as Side 2 opener)
    Swallowed Whole
    Infallible
    Yellow Moon
    Future Days (minus piano)

    1998: 6/26, 6/27, 6/29
    2000: 8/15, 8/18, 10/9, 10/11, 10/12
    2003: 6/18, 6/21, 6/22
    2005: 9/9, 9/28
    2006: 5/16, 5/17, 6/26, 6/27
    2007: 8/5
    2009: 8/23, 8/24
    2010: 5/3, 5/4, 5/21
    2011: 9/3, 9/4, 9/11, 9/12
    2013: 7/19, 11/16
    2014: 10/3, 10/9, 10/12, 10/17
    2016: 4/16, 8/20, 8/22
    2018: 8/18, 8/20, 9/2
    2022: 9/18
    2023: 8/31, 9/2, 9/5
    2024: 5/18, 6/29
  • T-Bone 82
    T-Bone 82 Posts: 422
    wnh1977 said:
    I think Lightning Bolt would benefit from subtraction.  Get rid of "Let the Records Play" and "Sleeping by Myself"... plus get rid of the opening and closing piano (played by Brendan O'Brien) on "Future Days".  That doesn't automatically make "Future Days" one of their top closers, but it improves it a bit.  It's now a 10-song, 39 or 40 minute album at that point (Backspacer was 11 songs, 37 minutes).  I might shuffle the order on "side 2" a bit after the 2 omissions, but I think this makes it a much, much better album.  

    "Let the Records Play" and "Sleeping by Myself" just kill the album.  I should've been brought in with these suggestions.  Big miss by the band for not reaching out to me.

    Side 1
    Getaway
    Mind Your Manners
    My Father's Son
    Sirens
    Lightning Bolt

    Side 2
    Pendulum (used as a concert opener a lot... would work great as Side 2 opener)
    Swallowed Whole
    Infallible
    Yellow Moon
    Future Days (minus piano)

    I agree strongly with this minus the removal of the piano on Future Days. I like the intro and outro piano. 

    I always felt like LB was 2 different records in 1. The first half is fantastic and then it really drops off, minus Future Days as a closer. I would re-do LB as a 6 song EP with the following order:

    1. Getaway
    2. MYM
    3. Father's Son
    4. Lightning Bolt
    5. Sirens
    6. Future Days
    "Darkness comes in waves, tell me, why invite it to stay?"
  • igotid88
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  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 98,322
    So good!

    https://youtu.be/kqoLAF6gY2E
  • Jayfesuk
    Jayfesuk Posts: 144
    ⬆️I was very happy to hear Yellow Moon in Hamilton on September 6 2022.
  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,268
    Jayfesuk said:
    ⬆️I was very happy to hear Yellow Moon in Hamilton on September 6 2022.
    Me too. I love that song.

  • Loujoe
    Loujoe Posts: 11,994
    Record has intentional awkwardness that works for me 
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 98,322
    Jayfesuk said:
    ⬆️I was very happy to hear Yellow Moon in Hamilton on September 6 2022.

    Same. Love Yellow Moon. And that show was amazing! My 2nd Pearl Jam Hamilton show.
  • wnh1977
    wnh1977 Iowa Posts: 651
    Loujoe said:
    Record has intentional awkwardness that works for me 
    I really like the album, but "Let the Records Play" and "Sleeping By Myself" back-to-back really hinder it.  First of all, I'm with a lot of people here thinking there was no need for "Sleeping By Myself" on a PJ studio album after it appeared on Ukelele Songs.  If you want the band to play it live like they did with "Setting Forth", fine.  

    I feel like many Pearl Jam albums have the, as you called it, "awkwardness", or goofy, alternate track.  I really don't care for "Something Special", but it's one song on an otherwise very solid album.  Throughout the years, they've had "I'm Open", "Red Dot", "Soon Forget"... but I really feel like those type of tracks should be minimized.  Vitalogy went a little overboard, but it has 10 awesome straight-up tracks.
    1998: 6/26, 6/27, 6/29
    2000: 8/15, 8/18, 10/9, 10/11, 10/12
    2003: 6/18, 6/21, 6/22
    2005: 9/9, 9/28
    2006: 5/16, 5/17, 6/26, 6/27
    2007: 8/5
    2009: 8/23, 8/24
    2010: 5/3, 5/4, 5/21
    2011: 9/3, 9/4, 9/11, 9/12
    2013: 7/19, 11/16
    2014: 10/3, 10/9, 10/12, 10/17
    2016: 4/16, 8/20, 8/22
    2018: 8/18, 8/20, 9/2
    2022: 9/18
    2023: 8/31, 9/2, 9/5
    2024: 5/18, 6/29
  • BrainofBGA
    BrainofBGA Australia Posts: 4,562
    Yellow Moon, probably my favourite track off LB. Just beautiful in so many ways. Would love to it live! 
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  • Loujoe
    Loujoe Posts: 11,994
    wnh1977 said:
    Loujoe said:
    Record has intentional awkwardness that works for me 
    I really like the album, but "Let the Records Play" and "Sleeping By Myself" back-to-back really hinder it.  First of all, I'm with a lot of people here thinking there was no need for "Sleeping By Myself" on a PJ studio album after it appeared on Ukelele Songs.  If you want the band to play it live like they did with "Setting Forth", fine.  

    I feel like many Pearl Jam albums have the, as you called it, "awkwardness", or goofy, alternate track.  I really don't care for "Something Special", but it's one song on an otherwise very solid album.  Throughout the years, they've had "I'm Open", "Red Dot", "Soon Forget"... but I really feel like those type of tracks should be minimized.  Vitalogy went a little overboard, but it has 10 awesome straight-up tracks.
    Well said. I just think the beats in general are very different and I like that. Maybe odd timing? Yes that sbm definitely not for me.
  • KN219077
    KN219077 Montana Posts: 1,202
    dwjmu84 said:
    The one blemish on PJ’s otherwise stellar career, in my opinion. 

    The only songs I can listen to 11 years removed from this record are MFS, LTRP, and Getaway. 

    3/12

    Oh well!

    I go back to Infallible and Pendulum. The others just haven’t stuck as well. I always like the title track, and really enjoyed it live but it just feels like they tried to get that unthought/gtf vibe and it sounds uneven at times
  • igotid88
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,656
    Good album after Backspacer.

    Nice touch to have the vector graphics painted on the LP.
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  • igotid88
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  • eboweddie
    eboweddie Posts: 1,111
    An album i just cant warm too. Love yellow moon though 

    i wish i wish i wish i wish, i guess it never stops

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