PJ Box Sets

Jimmydean55Jimmydean55 Posts: 1,482
Metallica just announced the Load album box set. Why can’t PJ do this with their back catalog? Look at the sheer volume of this thing. And $275 for all of it is a bargain, IMO.


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  • darthvedderdarthvedder Posts: 2,627
    We got box sets for Ten and Vs/Vitalogy before Jeff said they didn't want to look back anymore.

    And this is way over the top for an album like Load, imo.
  • Jimmydean55Jimmydean55 Posts: 1,482
    edited April 29
    Right, and they were great. I’m just saying it would be cool to get some demos, riffs, etc in the way Metallica is doing theirs. 

    And the band doesn’t have to look back. Metallica brought in a hard core fan to curate all this. PJ could surely do the same. 

    You may not like Load, but this is, again, what they’re doing for all their albums. I happen to really enjoy Load and can’t wait for this box. 
  • SudmanSudman Fremantle, Western Australia Posts: 59
    I agree, I thought the exact same thing when I saw the Metallica announcement.

    We've seen that Pearl Jam has heaps of archival content in their warehouse. They could put together some incredible box sets for the other albums.

    I understand that they don't want to look backwards, but why not do what Metallica do and hire someone to compile it for them? The band can still review the proposed content and have final say. Stone said in an interview a few years ago that he's sure they'll do box sets for all their albums at some point, but doesn't know when.

    Don't wait 10+ years until you're no longer touring to work on it - the time is now. No point sitting on all this material and doing nothing with it. Release the deluxe box sets please!
  • Jimmydean55Jimmydean55 Posts: 1,482
    Exactly!!
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,805
    Metallica is the most overrated band on the planet. I do not know how people can listen to them. Rorschach test cards? Gimme a break.
  • ZodZod Posts: 10,810
    I think PJ has a smaller fan base?  They effort to make, vs quantities sold might not align.
  • kmcmanuskmcmanus Posts: 839
    I think what’s unspoken is that only 3 of thier albums have enough demand to justify doing it, and they did those already. And the fact they combined Vs & Vitalogy instead of doing separate boxes for each is probably a similar rationale. Metallica is significantly more popular in 2025 than PJ.
  • SudmanSudman Fremantle, Western Australia Posts: 59
    Yes, I agree that they probably couldn't do it on the same scale as Metallica, but heaps of other bands are finding ways to do deluxe box sets for album anniversaries. Would be great if PJ could also. 
  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,384
    Get_Right said:
    Metallica is the most overrated band on the planet. I do not know how people can listen to them. Rorschach test cards? Gimme a break.
    The scope of the project is what people want. Not a commentary on Metallica. 
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  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 10,155
    There is so much bloat in the Load box set. A bunch of the CDs are isolated tracks, alternate takes, etc. You really have to go through it and ask yourself how often if at all you'll listen to most of it. You're also getting identical content in different formats (vinyl/CD).
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,762
    Get_Right said:
    Metallica is the most overrated band on the planet. I do not know how people can listen to them. Rorschach test cards? Gimme a break.
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  • Abe FromanAbe Froman Posts: 5,335
    pjl44 said:
    There is so much bloat in the Load box set. A bunch of the CDs are isolated tracks, alternate takes, etc. You really have to go through it and ask yourself how often if at all you'll listen to most of it. You're also getting identical content in different formats (vinyl/CD).
    This ⬆️ 

    It’s the reason I don’t like box sets. Much of the content is a repeat of what you already have. They sucker me in with the live albums and maybe a few demos. I don’t care about replica back stage passes and the other shit like that. 
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,386
    Unless it comes with additional music, I would be out. The rest of it is all just stuff. 
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  • Jimmydean55Jimmydean55 Posts: 1,482
    I like hearing the way a song takes shape. They released the demo for Until It Sleeps the other day and it’s different from what ended up being the final take. I love the bloat. 
  • darthvedderdarthvedder Posts: 2,627
    Zod said:
    I think PJ has a smaller fan base?  They effort to make, vs quantities sold might not align.

    Isn't this what happened with the Vs./Vitalogy box set? It was almost as if they couldn't give them away.
    There are also label considerations, as all of the early content they put out is through Sony Legacy.
  • RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,223
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  • Jimmydean55Jimmydean55 Posts: 1,482
    edited April 30

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  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 10,155
    The live stuff in there looks cool but I'm not dialed in enough to know what's new vs previously released 
  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 95,185
    That is pretty cool.


  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,858
    I do wish box sets would do away with the padding and just keep it to the media and a book. Most of the reproduced stuff would suffice with a picture of the actual thing in the book and its a marginal production cost increase that allows them to hike the price of the box set. . 
  • RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,223

    :) That’s fine, you don’t have to believe me! Also have joined friends cooking for Phil Lesh and a bunch of the 49ers. (Working in Marin county basically is where they’re all at)
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  • lexicondevillexicondevil Posts: 2,172
    When I think of the handful of boxsets that I own I can tell you there is nothing I can remember, other than the records, that was useful/cool to have. Boxsets are great when it is just music and there should be something special/extra about the box version. Other than that it's just an empty cash grab. I have fallen for it at times.
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  • SudmanSudman Fremantle, Western Australia Posts: 59
    Some box sets do contain a bit of bloat, but they could keep it simple.
    Remastered album LP
    Live album from the era LP
    Demo/riffs/unreleased tracks on CD
    Live show on DVD
    Maybe a book of photos from the studio

    PJ fans spend up big on show merch... t-shirts, posters, skate decks, tea towels...

    Surely there'd be a market for the actual music. Isn't that what we're all here for?
  • Jimmydean55Jimmydean55 Posts: 1,482

    :) That’s fine, you don’t have to believe me! Also have joined friends cooking for Phil Lesh and a bunch of the 49ers. (Working in Marin county basically is where they’re all at)
    Well, if so, very cool!
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,178
    edited May 1
    Sudman said:
    I agree, I thought the exact same thing when I saw the Metallica announcement.

    We've seen that Pearl Jam has heaps of archival content in their warehouse. They could put together some incredible box sets for the other albums.

    I understand that they don't want to look backwards, but why not do what Metallica do and hire someone to compile it for them? The band can still review the proposed content and have final say. Stone said in an interview a few years ago that he's sure they'll do box sets for all their albums at some point, but doesn't know when.

    Don't wait 10+ years until you're no longer touring to work on it - the time is now. No point sitting on all this material and doing nothing with it. Release the deluxe box sets please!
    Because they wouldn't sell enough.

    VS/Vitalogy was regulated to just being sold through the tenclub. It didn't even warrant a wide release, after the ten box set.
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,178
    edited May 1
    Sudman said:
    Some box sets do contain a bit of bloat, but they could keep it simple.
    Remastered album LP
    Live album from the era LP
    Demo/riffs/unreleased tracks on CD
    Live show on DVD
    Maybe a book of photos from the studio

    PJ fans spend up big on show merch... t-shirts, posters, skate decks, tea towels...

    Surely there'd be a market for the actual music. Isn't that what we're all here for?
    I don't know what you mean by bloat. But if you mean "tat", as in pointless plastic and reproductions and here is a laminated poster and some branded dice you will never look at again. Then i agree. I think the perfect formula would be:

    - LP Album in a gatefold with 
    - LP Album with stuff like demos/riffs/unreleased tracks LP
    - LP Live album covering that era
    - 100 page behind the scenes book (like the cool Ten-focused DEEP mag) covering the album -- or 60-90 min documentary Bluray with interviews doing the same
    - Live show/Touring band-esque on Bluray (if possible)


    And have a seperate LP and CD-release (like Beatles do... I think...). I think the Venn diagram of users needing both LP and CD is quite small. Even though I understand that little sliver do exist. But for most people it's just a pricehike having to pay for both formats (like they forced you to with Ten and VS/Vitalogy)

    And again. Stop putting tat in. Have pictures of it in the book instead. I consider the mamasan cassette an exception. Beatles don't do tat. While KISS do. Even though I kind of wanted the Creatures of the Night boxset.







    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
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