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Yes - if someone is comfortable going the secondary market route, some of those site pricing will come down (as it does with any event). Was speaking directly about the PJ Premium pricing and the belief it'll come down - it won't.Mac57 said:
I hear you, but over 100 tickets for Saturday on SeatGxxx, didn't count the other sites, so some of those prices should come down by Saturday.IlliniGuy76 said:
Demand far far far far outweighs supply for the two FLA shows with limited seating. There are a scant few tickets available for a large large large pool of people trying to get into the show. Unlike most every other venue "waiting" won't work.Mac57 said:N2 FL premiums up for $995 in 114, and gone. Hold on people.or you can come to terms and realize
you're the only one who can forgive yourself oh yeah...
makes much more sense to live in the present tense...
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For the record, all PJ Premium tickets (if unsold, and as blue dots) for each show (including FL, if no one buys them) drop down to presale/face value by about 5pm each show day.
I have 3 years worth of maddening data to back that up🙃35 years, 35 shows.
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However, if you buy PJ Premium & can't go, or upgrade to better seats? You can only sell them on F2F for the price you got suckered into paying.Go Animal said:For the record, all PJ Premium tickets (if unsold, and as blue dots) for each show (including FL, if no one buys them) drop down to presale/face value by about 5pm each show day.
I have 3 years worth of maddening data to back that up🙃
No more, no less. Lest you take a hit with a third party switcheroo, or make some sort of back end deal here 🤷35 years, 35 shows.
Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!0 -
Go Animal said:For the record, all PJ Premium tickets (if unsold, and as blue dots) for each show (including FL, if no one buys them) drop down to presale/face value by about 5pm each show day.
I have 3 years worth of maddening data to back that up🙃
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Correct - and not to anger people. There are currently (2) sets of (2) seats of PJ Premium tickets for sale for Thur, none for Sat. There's not going to be another drop of PJ Premium tickets to either show & certainly won't be at face value.Go Animal said:
However, if you buy PJ Premium & can't go, or upgrade to better seats? You can only sell them on F2F for the price you got suckered into paying.Go Animal said:For the record, all PJ Premium tickets (if unsold, and as blue dots) for each show (including FL, if no one buys them) drop down to presale/face value by about 5pm each show day.
I have 3 years worth of maddening data to back that up🙃
No more, no less. Lest you take a hit with a third party switcheroo, or make some sort of back end deal here 🤷or you can come to terms and realize
you're the only one who can forgive yourself oh yeah...
makes much more sense to live in the present tense...
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2018: 8/18 (Chicago) & 8/20 (Chicago) 2022: 9/11 (NYC), 9/18 (STL) 2023: 9/5 (Chicago), 9/7 (Chicago) 2024: 8/29 (Chicago), 8/31 (Chicago)0 -
Funny, because they keep adding and removing PJ Premium tix and the ones that vanish show up again hours later. TM is absolutely playing games with availability and supply.IlliniGuy76 said:
Correct - and not to anger people. There are currently (2) sets of (2) seats of PJ Premium tickets for sale for Thur, none for Sat. There's not going to be another drop of PJ Premium tickets to either show & certainly won't be at face value.Go Animal said:
However, if you buy PJ Premium & can't go, or upgrade to better seats? You can only sell them on F2F for the price you got suckered into paying.Go Animal said:For the record, all PJ Premium tickets (if unsold, and as blue dots) for each show (including FL, if no one buys them) drop down to presale/face value by about 5pm each show day.
I have 3 years worth of maddening data to back that up🙃
No more, no less. Lest you take a hit with a third party switcheroo, or make some sort of back end deal here 🤷0 -
That's been happening for weeks, correct (and been incredibly limited). Again - (2) sets of (2) seats for Thur show, none of SatWellwater Conspiracy said:
Funny, because they keep adding and removing PJ Premium tix and the ones that vanish show up again hours later. TM is absolutely playing games with availability and supply.IlliniGuy76 said:
Correct - and not to anger people. There are currently (2) sets of (2) seats of PJ Premium tickets for sale for Thur, none for Sat. There's not going to be another drop of PJ Premium tickets to either show & certainly won't be at face value.Go Animal said:
However, if you buy PJ Premium & can't go, or upgrade to better seats? You can only sell them on F2F for the price you got suckered into paying.Go Animal said:For the record, all PJ Premium tickets (if unsold, and as blue dots) for each show (including FL, if no one buys them) drop down to presale/face value by about 5pm each show day.
I have 3 years worth of maddening data to back that up🙃
No more, no less. Lest you take a hit with a third party switcheroo, or make some sort of back end deal here 🤷
If you're planning on waiting till 5 p.m. of the show in hopes of the PJ Premium tickets that were added will fall to face value and someone here will get them.. good luck; people have been fighting bots for months on end here.
Terrible this systemPost edited by IlliniGuy76 onor you can come to terms and realize
you're the only one who can forgive yourself oh yeah...
makes much more sense to live in the present tense...
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TM is definitely playing games. There were a bunch of blue-dot premiums in FLA2 sec 114 that keep popping up and either selling or TM pulls them back to create the illusion of demand.
There are more premiums that are being held back for slow-release, we just don't know when that will happen.1996 - Columbia MD
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I hope you're right and there's this giant drop of tickets and people are able to get themeddievedderspants said:TM is definitely playing games. There were a bunch of blue-dot premiums in FLA2 sec 114 that keep popping up and either selling or TM pulls them back to create the illusion of demand.
There are more premiums that are being held back for slow-release, we just don't know when that will happen.
6-7k seat venue tells you...if it happens, the premium seats will still go for $500-600 a piece (there were multiple sets in that price range, and fans bought them up at those prices).Post edited by IlliniGuy76 onor you can come to terms and realize
you're the only one who can forgive yourself oh yeah...
makes much more sense to live in the present tense...
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Agree, given the demand, I would be very surprized to see any of the premiums below $600.IlliniGuy76 said:
I hope you're right and there's this giant drop of tickets and people are able to get themeddievedderspants said:TM is definitely playing games. There were a bunch of blue-dot premiums in FLA2 sec 114 that keep popping up and either selling or TM pulls them back to create the illusion of demand.
There are more premiums that are being held back for slow-release, we just don't know when that will happen.
6-7k seat venue tells you...if it happens, the premium seats will still go for $500-600 a piece.
The secondary sites are already lowering the prices for both shows. They are listing some in the 100 lvl for N1 for 300-400, those will come down drastically in the next 24-48 hours for anyone willing to take a chance on a "non-trasferrable" ticket from them.1996 - Columbia MD
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2024 - Baltimore, MD
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Two of those fl blue premiums already turned into F2F. But I could have sworn the premiums were under 1k? The F2Fs are above. Something’s not right.0
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Anyone have a screenshot of the Fl sec 111 premiums that wen up earlier today?0
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I think someone ran through checkout without looking at the price, because those 111's were the back row and definitely were premiums at $995 earlier now I see a pair on F2F. Could be a costly mistake for someone.2016: Telluride, CO
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I think the red-dot F2F is always a little more than the original premium price because it also includes the tax or fee originally tacked on.
If you buy a $995 blue-dot, the real price is actually like $1052 or so. When you try to resell it, thats the price it is listed for.1996 - Columbia MD
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correcteddievedderspants said:I think the red-dot F2F is always a little more than the original premium price because it also includes the tax or fee originally tacked on.
If you buy a $995 blue-dot, the real price is actually like $1052 or so. When you try to resell it, thats the price it is listed for.2016: Telluride, CO
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2021: Sea.Hear.Now
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I'm not going to Hollywood and haven't been looking at prices. But they do add taxes to F2F tickets. For example, I lose $8.40 on every Nashville pair I flip. So, if you're looking at tickets that are 5x that price, you'd have 5x the amount of tax, adding approx $40-45 to the price.bootleg said:Two of those fl blue premiums already turned into F2F. But I could have sworn the premiums were under 1k? The F2Fs are above. Something’s not right.0 -

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Ah ok makes sense.eddievedderspants said:I think the red-dot F2F is always a little more than the original premium price because it also includes the tax or fee originally tacked on.
If you buy a $995 blue-dot, the real price is actually like $1052 or so. When you try to resell it, thats the price it is listed for.0 -
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Yeah, someone bought them & either it was without looking at the price, they can't go, or buyer's remorse kicked in.
35 years, 35 shows.
Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!0 -
That price makes me sickGo Animal said:@Sugarloafer04 @bootleg @eddievedderspants
Yeah, someone bought them & either it was without looking at the price, they can't go, or buyer's remorse kicked in.
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