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  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,985
    JL21813 said:
    on2legs said:
    Hard to believe it was 25 years ago… saw 8 shows in like 11 or 12 days. 🤘🏻
    Cincinnati 
    Columbus
    Jones Beach 1
    Jones Beach 2
    Jones Beach 3
    Boston 1
    Camden 1
    Camden 2
    I am surprised at this list. You mentioned you saw eight shows in 2000. DO you believe, you have the ability to rank them? I attended some but not all. I know how the bootlegs sound for shows I missed but that does not make up for date of week, weather, venue, what happened at the show the night before, which totally influenced setlist, very obvious for the JB123/Camden, NJ 12. How did you miss the Boston 2?
    I will sit back and wait for a response.  :)
    Haha. How did I miss Boston 2? I had to show up for work at some point.  I also had season tickets to the Yankees back then and I needed to save some time off for the post season run that I knew was on the way.  I ended up seeing every playoff and World Series game at Yankee Stadium that year.  

    I’m not big into ranking shows.  They were all excellent.  Lots of Binaural that run of shows… I think we got Insignificance 7 out of 8 shows.  One of my all time favorites… So good!   Huge energy and great set list variation at all the shows.  If I had to pick a favorite it would be Jones Beach 2.  Loved the venue and set list, but the It’s Ok tag puts it over the top for me.  
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh


  • darthvedder
    darthvedder Posts: 2,673
    edited April 20
    MS149515 said:
    Can we get a re-pressing of the original mix please? The 2016 remix is not good. 

    Was it actually re-mixed in 2016? Or just remastered? I thought only Avocado was a different mix of the reissues.

    EDIT: As I thought, the shop explicitly states that the Binaural (https://shop.pearljam.com/collections/vinyl/products/binaural-vinyl-lp ) and Riot Act (https://shop.pearljam.com/collections/vinyl/products/riot-act-vinyl-lp ) reissues are remastered and Not Remixed


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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,553
    MS149515 said:
    Can we get a re-pressing of the original mix please? The 2016 remix is not good. 

    Was it actually re-mixed in 2016? Or just remastered? I thought only Avocado was a different mix of the reissues.

    EDIT: As I thought, the shop explicitly states that the Binaural (https://shop.pearljam.com/collections/vinyl/products/binaural-vinyl-lp ) and Riot Act (https://shop.pearljam.com/collections/vinyl/products/riot-act-vinyl-lp ) reissues are remastered and Not Remixed



  • tylerj
    tylerj Indiana Posts: 368
    demetrios said:
    MS149515 said:
    Can we get a re-pressing of the original mix please? 

    I'm hoping they do a VMP pressing of Binaural, like they did for Yield. 
    Doubtful as VMP's death is imminent 
    Chicago, Aug 24, 2009 
    Noblesville, May 7, 2010
    PJ20 Night 1, 2011
    Cincinnati, Oct. 1, 2014
    Milwaukee, Oct. 20, 2014
    Wrigley Field, Aug 20, 2016
    Wrigley Field, Aug 22, 2016
    Wrigley Field, Aug 18, 2018
    Wrigley Field, Aug 20, 2018
    St. Louis, Sept. 18, 2022
    Chicago, Sept. 5, 2023
    Chicago, Sept. 7, 2023
    Noblesville, Aug. 26, 2024
    Wrigley Field, Aug 29, 2024
    Wrigley Field, Aug 31, 2024
  • tylerj
    tylerj Indiana Posts: 368
    A new take on the Binaural audio mix is intriguing. I always wondered what Binaural songs would sound like if they recorded it in their Backspacer era, or better yet, Dark Matter era. Both groove better and have more aggressive audio production. Binaural studio production drags, depending on the mood. Perhaps Josh Evans can bring out some more punch and space with spatial audio. 
    The last thing this band needs is more albums mixed like Dark Matter. It is one of, if not, the worst engineered album in their discography. 
    Chicago, Aug 24, 2009 
    Noblesville, May 7, 2010
    PJ20 Night 1, 2011
    Cincinnati, Oct. 1, 2014
    Milwaukee, Oct. 20, 2014
    Wrigley Field, Aug 20, 2016
    Wrigley Field, Aug 22, 2016
    Wrigley Field, Aug 18, 2018
    Wrigley Field, Aug 20, 2018
    St. Louis, Sept. 18, 2022
    Chicago, Sept. 5, 2023
    Chicago, Sept. 7, 2023
    Noblesville, Aug. 26, 2024
    Wrigley Field, Aug 29, 2024
    Wrigley Field, Aug 31, 2024
  • dreamweaver
    dreamweaver New York Posts: 735
    edited April 21
    tylerj said:
    A new take on the Binaural audio mix is intriguing. I always wondered what Binaural songs would sound like if they recorded it in their Backspacer era, or better yet, Dark Matter era. Both groove better and have more aggressive audio production. Binaural studio production drags, depending on the mood. Perhaps Josh Evans can bring out some more punch and space with spatial audio. 
    The last thing this band needs is more albums mixed like Dark Matter. It is one of, if not, the worst engineered album in their discography. 
    Mixing and engineering are two different parts of making a record. So, not sure what exactly you mean. I happen to think Dark Matter is one of their best produced albums, from engineering, songwriting, performance, and mix. I've heard complaints about Dark Matter production, and I don't agree...

    Here's where I rank their albums production-wise: 
    • Top 3 (most focused all around production): Vs., Yield, Dark Matter
    • Middle 4 (great sounds/mix, not as focused production-wise): Ten, No Code, Backspacer, Riot Act 
    • Middle/lower 3 (great performances, not as focused production) : Lightening Bolt, Gigaton, Vitalogy
    • Least focused all around: Avocado, Binaural

    Note: This is not my desert island rank, which can be a completely different conversation
    Post edited by dreamweaver on
    Meadowlands, MSG 1, MSG 2 - '98
    Jones Beach NY 1 + 3 - '00
    MSG 1 + 2 - '03
    Boston Garden - '04
    Montreal - '05
    Boston Garden 1, Meadowlands 1 + 2 - '06
    Mansfield 1 - '08
    (EV solo) Boston 1 - '08
    Chicago 1 - '09
    MSG -'10
    Brooklyn 1+2 - '13
    Central Park - '15
    MSG - '16
    Fenway - '16
    Wrigley - '16
    (RRHOF) Brooklyn - '17
    Fenway - '18
    MSG - '22
    MSG 1 - '24
  • bigbiggzy
    bigbiggzy Posts: 840
    Where would you put Riot Act within those 3 categories?
  • JL21813
    JL21813 Posts: 26
    on2legs said:
    JL21813 said:
    on2legs said:
    Hard to believe it was 25 years ago… saw 8 shows in like 11 or 12 days. 🤘🏻
    Cincinnati 
    Columbus
    Jones Beach 1
    Jones Beach 2
    Jones Beach 3
    Boston 1
    Camden 1
    Camden 2
    I am surprised at this list. You mentioned you saw eight shows in 2000. DO you believe, you have the ability to rank them? I attended some but not all. I know how the bootlegs sound for shows I missed but that does not make up for date of week, weather, venue, what happened at the show the night before, which totally influenced setlist, very obvious for the JB123/Camden, NJ 12. How did you miss the Boston 2?
    I will sit back and wait for a response.  :)
    Haha. How did I miss Boston 2? I had to show up for work at some point.  I also had season tickets to the Yankees back then and I needed to save some time off for the post season run that I knew was on the way.  I ended up seeing every playoff and World Series game at Yankee Stadium that year.  

    I’m not big into ranking shows.  They were all excellent.  Lots of Binaural that run of shows… I think we got Insignificance 7 out of 8 shows.  One of my all time favorites… So good!   Huge energy and great set list variation at all the shows.  If I had to pick a favorite it would be Jones Beach 2.  Loved the venue and set list, but the It’s Ok tag puts it over the top for me.  
    Interesting. Congratulations on all of the World Titles. That was some run 1996, 1998, 1999, 2000. 2000 was good, 1998 the best run.
    Insignificance almost made a 2024 appearance but got slashed. 
  • Imcoffeegirl
    Imcoffeegirl Posts: 381
    tylerj said:
    demetrios said:
    MS149515 said:
    Can we get a re-pressing of the original mix please? 

    I'm hoping they do a VMP pressing of Binaural, like they did for Yield. 
    Doubtful as VMP's death is imminent 
    What makes you think that? 
  • tylerj
    tylerj Indiana Posts: 368
    tylerj said:
    demetrios said:
    MS149515 said:
    Can we get a re-pressing of the original mix please? 

    I'm hoping they do a VMP pressing of Binaural, like they did for Yield. 
    Doubtful as VMP's death is imminent 
    What makes you think that? 
    To make a long story short, they've had significant corporate and ownership upheaval, they don't do monthly records or new releases and have just been liquating old stock, they take forever to ship in stock records and rarely reply to customer service inquiries anymore. 
    Chicago, Aug 24, 2009 
    Noblesville, May 7, 2010
    PJ20 Night 1, 2011
    Cincinnati, Oct. 1, 2014
    Milwaukee, Oct. 20, 2014
    Wrigley Field, Aug 20, 2016
    Wrigley Field, Aug 22, 2016
    Wrigley Field, Aug 18, 2018
    Wrigley Field, Aug 20, 2018
    St. Louis, Sept. 18, 2022
    Chicago, Sept. 5, 2023
    Chicago, Sept. 7, 2023
    Noblesville, Aug. 26, 2024
    Wrigley Field, Aug 29, 2024
    Wrigley Field, Aug 31, 2024
  • dreamweaver
    dreamweaver New York Posts: 735
    edited April 21
    bigbiggzy said:
    Where would you put Riot Act within those 3 categories?
    Ahh whoops, brain fart (added now)! I think Riot Act engineering and mix sound great. Songs and performances are a bit sluggish, but focused. I would put Riot Act in the middle range production effort, along with Ten, No Code, and Backspacer (each with classic PJ songs, great recording/mix). Middle-range albums are tough to sort through, I think about all aspects from songs, production, mix, etc. I could go on for days here, and it's just my obsessive fan opinion. I went to music school and earned a degree in audio engineering, so I have a good idea of what goes into recording and what music consumers are hearing. But also to each their own. 
    Meadowlands, MSG 1, MSG 2 - '98
    Jones Beach NY 1 + 3 - '00
    MSG 1 + 2 - '03
    Boston Garden - '04
    Montreal - '05
    Boston Garden 1, Meadowlands 1 + 2 - '06
    Mansfield 1 - '08
    (EV solo) Boston 1 - '08
    Chicago 1 - '09
    MSG -'10
    Brooklyn 1+2 - '13
    Central Park - '15
    MSG - '16
    Fenway - '16
    Wrigley - '16
    (RRHOF) Brooklyn - '17
    Fenway - '18
    MSG - '22
    MSG 1 - '24
  • tylerj
    tylerj Indiana Posts: 368
    bigbiggzy said:
    Where would you put Riot Act within those 3 categories?
    Ahh whoops, brain fart (added now)! I think Riot Act engineering and mix sound great. Songs and performances are a bit sluggish, but focused. I would put Riot Act in the middle range production effort, along with Ten, No Code, and Backspacer (each with classic PJ songs, great recording/mix). Middle-range albums are tough to sort through, I think about all aspects from songs, production, mix, etc. I could go on for days here, and it's just my obsessive fan opinion. I went to music school and earned a degree in audio engineering, so I have a good idea of what goes into recording and what music consumers are hearing. But also to each their own. 
    A music school grad with a degree in audio engineering who believes Dark Matter is well mixed and mastered?   :s Ok, buddy. Putting it anywhere near VS and the newly cut Yield 45rpm vinyl is insane. 

    Dark Matter is their *best* produced album in recent memory in terms of the song quality. How much of that is Watt or the boys simply dedicating weeks in a studio to crank out songs, one can only guess, but I tend to believe it's the latter. The last few albums suffered from being all over the place and less focused because they were recorded over several years. PJ seems to put out their best stuff when they dedicate themselves to the studio. 

    Chicago, Aug 24, 2009 
    Noblesville, May 7, 2010
    PJ20 Night 1, 2011
    Cincinnati, Oct. 1, 2014
    Milwaukee, Oct. 20, 2014
    Wrigley Field, Aug 20, 2016
    Wrigley Field, Aug 22, 2016
    Wrigley Field, Aug 18, 2018
    Wrigley Field, Aug 20, 2018
    St. Louis, Sept. 18, 2022
    Chicago, Sept. 5, 2023
    Chicago, Sept. 7, 2023
    Noblesville, Aug. 26, 2024
    Wrigley Field, Aug 29, 2024
    Wrigley Field, Aug 31, 2024
  • dreamweaver
    dreamweaver New York Posts: 735
    tylerj said:
    bigbiggzy said:
    Where would you put Riot Act within those 3 categories?
    Ahh whoops, brain fart (added now)! I think Riot Act engineering and mix sound great. Songs and performances are a bit sluggish, but focused. I would put Riot Act in the middle range production effort, along with Ten, No Code, and Backspacer (each with classic PJ songs, great recording/mix). Middle-range albums are tough to sort through, I think about all aspects from songs, production, mix, etc. I could go on for days here, and it's just my obsessive fan opinion. I went to music school and earned a degree in audio engineering, so I have a good idea of what goes into recording and what music consumers are hearing. But also to each their own. 
    A music school grad with a degree in audio engineering who believes Dark Matter is well mixed and mastered?   :s Ok, buddy. Putting it anywhere near VS and the newly cut Yield 45rpm vinyl is insane. 

    Dark Matter is their *best* produced album in recent memory in terms of the song quality. How much of that is Watt or the boys simply dedicating weeks in a studio to crank out songs, one can only guess, but I tend to believe it's the latter. The last few albums suffered from being all over the place and less focused because they were recorded over several years. PJ seems to put out their best stuff when they dedicate themselves to the studio. 

    I see where you’re at. Dark Matter mix/master is more compressed and gated at times. I don’t think that’s such a bad thing at all, but I understand why it bothers some audiophiles. Mixing after all, is overrated. But you admit that it’s one of their best produced albums. I don’t think it’s ONLY the songs. They got killer sounds and performances on DM. To each their own. I does seem like we agree that Yield is their best sounding album. 
    Meadowlands, MSG 1, MSG 2 - '98
    Jones Beach NY 1 + 3 - '00
    MSG 1 + 2 - '03
    Boston Garden - '04
    Montreal - '05
    Boston Garden 1, Meadowlands 1 + 2 - '06
    Mansfield 1 - '08
    (EV solo) Boston 1 - '08
    Chicago 1 - '09
    MSG -'10
    Brooklyn 1+2 - '13
    Central Park - '15
    MSG - '16
    Fenway - '16
    Wrigley - '16
    (RRHOF) Brooklyn - '17
    Fenway - '18
    MSG - '22
    MSG 1 - '24
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,985
    I’m glad I can’t hear any of the negatives people hear when they’re critiquing an album.  Maybe I'm missing out on something but I don’t mind because it all sounds good to me. 
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh


  • dreamweaver
    dreamweaver New York Posts: 735
    edited April 21
    on2legs said:
    I’m glad I can’t hear any of the negatives people hear when they’re critiquing an album.  Maybe I'm missing out on something but I don’t mind because it all sounds good to me. 
    You've never skipped a track?
    Meadowlands, MSG 1, MSG 2 - '98
    Jones Beach NY 1 + 3 - '00
    MSG 1 + 2 - '03
    Boston Garden - '04
    Montreal - '05
    Boston Garden 1, Meadowlands 1 + 2 - '06
    Mansfield 1 - '08
    (EV solo) Boston 1 - '08
    Chicago 1 - '09
    MSG -'10
    Brooklyn 1+2 - '13
    Central Park - '15
    MSG - '16
    Fenway - '16
    Wrigley - '16
    (RRHOF) Brooklyn - '17
    Fenway - '18
    MSG - '22
    MSG 1 - '24
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,985
    on2legs said:
    I’m glad I can’t hear any of the negatives people hear when they’re critiquing an album.  Maybe I'm missing out on something but I don’t mind because it all sounds good to me. 
    You've never skipped a track?
    Many times.  But not because of mixing or engineering. 
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh


  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,592
    trees said:
    Pap said:
    Where is this from?
    Can i buy this deluxe? 

    It's a cool fan made release.


  • Monteleone
    Monteleone New York Posts: 33
    demetrios said:
    trees said:
    Pap said:
    Where is this from?
    Can i buy this deluxe? 

    It's a cool fan made release.


    Where can we listen to all these Tchad Blake mixes?!
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  • darthvedder
    darthvedder Posts: 2,673
    edited April 24
    demetrios said:
    trees said:
    Pap said:
    Where is this from?
    Can i buy this deluxe? 

    It's a cool fan made release.


    Where can we listen to all these Tchad Blake mixes?!

    Insignificance comes from the Nothing as it Seems single. A lot of the others come from promotional CDs released before Binaural or Lost Dogs came out.
    Post edited by darthvedder on
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,592


    25 Years of Binaural

    All those yesterdays ago, the band released their sixth studio album. Tapping producer Tchad Blake, Pearl Jam sought a new intent for this body of work. The binaural recording technique aims to approximate the way human ears process sound, offering an entirely new depth when played back. “A lot of the time on Binaural, it’s almost like the listener is there in the room with us,” says Eddie.

    For its 25th anniversary, hear the album like never before in spatial audio blu-ray. This music format offers audiophiles an uncompressed Binaural feast of high definition audio.
     

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    Go Deeper

    • A Beginner’s Guide to Binaural Recording (Read).
    • Learn more about the Hourglass Nebula and the dying star it encircles (Here).
    • Pillars within the Eagle Nebula are incredible incubators for new stars, learn about it (Here).
    • Dive into the iridescent glory of the nearby Helix Nebula (Here).