A thread about Bill Maher

brianlux
brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,778
edited October 27 in A Moving Train
I know you're not all Maher fans but starting at 2:30 (please post a link with just the last part if you have one, thanks!) in this video, Maher sums up what is really going wrong in this election cycle and American politics in general and probably in our society as a whole. And aren't most of us guilty of incivility at one time or another? I know I could do better. Let's at least try.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPTtV5HBylk
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Amazing....coming from one of the major contributors to incivility. Guys like Maher love to have it both ways.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,778
    BS44325 said:

    Amazing....coming from one of the major contributors to incivility. Guys like Maher love to have it both ways.

    Yeah, he even pokes fun at himself that way in this video (I'm assuming you watched it). But what he says is worth considering nevertheless. To my way of thinking, it's spot on.

    Let's talk about how we can be more civil. Maybe even here on AMT.
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  • Gtilley8
    Gtilley8 Detroit Posts: 985
    BS44325 said:

    Amazing....coming from one of the major contributors to incivility. Guys like Maher love to have it both ways.

    Maybe we're not watching the same person, or you just don't agree with a single thing he says. He's a comedian, first and foremost, and probably a liberal Democrat second - so, he's going to poke fun at political idiots - and mostly from the right. He also counts Ann Coulter as one of his friends, so it appears he can find common ground with even the most uncivil.
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Most can find common ground with anyone, if they're willing. That's wonderful in effort and purpose, and I'm really thankful for the ability to seek, find, and appreciate that in itself. Online or not.

    If some can take in valuable inspiration from Maher, or anywhere else, I say rock on.

    He strikes me as a tool these days, but that's just my take on what I've seen recently vs the old days.

    As for true incivility? Nope as a rule - sure we all fuck up in that vein but not as a regular behavior and for me, typically not outside the confines of my car or the occasional yell at the TV. Within, all shit breaks loose. That release is normal. Unleashing it upon others, not so much.

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,778
    Although it seems like a good idea for us all to practice more civility, the biggest thing I got out of Maher's rap is the idea that people in political office especially should be setting a better example. Listen to the video from 4:45 to 5:30. Bingo- perfect example of how politicians used to do the right and honorable thing. Their behavior now has largely become deplorable and they set the president for the rest of the country to act like adolescents. A new better example would be helpful!
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    In theory it's a nice gesture but we are past that point of it ever happening. And I'm good with that because at least I know where I am.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,778
    unsung said:

    In theory it's a nice gesture but we are past that point of it ever happening. And I'm good with that because at least I know where I am.

    Never is a long time yet striving to do the right thing always makes sense.

    Not sure what your second sentence means.
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    I've come to accept what needs to be done to make things better.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,778
    unsung said:

    I've come to accept what needs to be done to make things better.

    Which is what this is all about. Yes, lets bring more decency and civility to politics and to our own words and actions!
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 13,065
    I like Maher's show and i think he is right even if right before he goes on his rant he calls Trump the Orange Hitler. if Trump loses i can't see him being civil about it. he has already said if he loses Pennsylvania the vote is rigged. the republicans have continually shown no respect for the office of the President once Obama was elected so not sure why we should expect that to change anytime soon.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,778
    pjhawks said:

    I like Maher's show and i think he is right even if right before he goes on his rant he calls Trump the Orange Hitler. if Trump loses i can't see him being civil about it. he has already said if he loses Pennsylvania the vote is rigged. the republicans have continually shown no respect for the office of the President once Obama was elected so not sure why we should expect that to change anytime soon.

    "Orange Hitler" was pretty funny!

    Who knows, maybe if Trump loses he will be very civil knowing he can now start is comedy show on TV, LOL. I still have this sneaking suspicion he's just in it for the gag. Else wise why does he keep screwing things up so hugely every time he starts rising in the polls? He must be having a total gas with all of this.

    If it's the other way around (I really doubt it) will Hillary concede with civility?

    Either way, will be interesting to see.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,092
    The civility should come from the so called leaders i.e. The candidates and so far there's only one that has been anything but civil , and like pjhawks said Trump will be calling for riots if he looses the election !!
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  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    I'm not a fan of that dude. He talks out both ends of his ass.
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  • brianlux
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    Degeneratefk said:

    I'm not a fan of that dude. He talks out both ends of his ass.

    <(^_*)>

    I'm having a really hard time picturing what that looks like, haha!
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  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    brianlux said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    I'm not a fan of that dude. He talks out both ends of his ass.

    <(^_*)>

    I'm having a really hard time picturing what that looks like, haha!
    Y3s, it's a tough one. Kind of like "head over heels..." Ones head is always over their heels
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,778
    Degeneratefk said:

    brianlux said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    I'm not a fan of that dude. He talks out both ends of his ass.

    <(^_*)>

    I'm having a really hard time picturing what that looks like, haha!
    Y3s, it's a tough one. Kind of like "head over heels..." Ones head is always over their heels
    Heels over head is more difficult, that's for sure!

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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,396
    https://youtu.be/RxlopbcfXpQ?si=jqYtNZsGOq7zCBoz
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,909
    I saw Bill's monologue about his absolutely delightful dinner with Trump on YouTube.... I think they way people, now including Bill, characterize Trump as anything other than a disgusting, megalomaniacal tyrant just because he was pleasant in a social setting is revolting, and I have zero respect for anyone who does so. Normalizing Trump is straight up dangerous, especially on a huge stage.
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  • josevolution
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    PJ_Soul said:
    I saw Bill's monologue about his absolutely delightful dinner with Trump on YouTube.... I think they way people, now including Bill, characterize Trump as anything other than a disgusting, megalomaniacal tyrant just because he was pleasant in a social setting is revolting, and I have zero respect for anyone who does so. Normalizing Trump is straight up dangerous, especially on a huge stage.
    Agreed, I’m glad to know who to stay away from! 
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,444
    PJ_Soul said:
    I saw Bill's monologue about his absolutely delightful dinner with Trump on YouTube.... I think they way people, now including Bill, characterize Trump as anything other than a disgusting, megalomaniacal tyrant just because he was pleasant in a social setting is revolting, and I have zero respect for anyone who does so. Normalizing Trump is straight up dangerous, especially on a huge stage.
    I'm not exactly sure what Bill Maher's point was. He discovered that Trump can act sane when the ramifications are nil, but otherwise - can't or won't. How should this be comforting to anyone?
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