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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,913
    The Juggler said:
    Wobbie said:
    SPEEDY MCCREADY said:
    The 2 worst NFL teams playing each other on Christmas day is a better watch than any NBA game. 
    So, Bears vs. Giants? :lol:
    Funny thing is two of the best NFL teams played yesterday and the NBA was way more entertaining. 
    And the NFL on a streaming platform got 4x the ratings.  It’s not really about one day though.  The nba product is awful and as you know I’m a guy who loves hoops. Between stars choosing to not play up to 20 percent of their games (thanks LeBron), ridiculous flopping (thanks LeBron and Embiid) and insane amount of 3 point shots (108 in one game last week) the product sucks in the regular season. 
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,889
    The Juggler said:
    SPEEDY MCCREADY said:
    The 2 worst NFL teams playing each other on Christmas day is a better watch than any NBA game. I haven't watched a full NBA game in over 20 years. I've never watched more than 2 minutes of a game involving King LeBron.

    I hate the game
    I hate the product

    Fuck the NBA
     

    Also, not for nothing, but the NFL product is not what it used to be either. 
    Well, they remedied that issue tonight.
    What a gem, 14 punts, zero touchdowns. A sure-fire instant classic.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    edited December 2024
    pjhawks said:
    The Juggler said:
    Wobbie said:
    SPEEDY MCCREADY said:
    The 2 worst NFL teams playing each other on Christmas day is a better watch than any NBA game. 
    So, Bears vs. Giants? :lol:
    Funny thing is two of the best NFL teams played yesterday and the NBA was way more entertaining. 
    And the NFL on a streaming platform got 4x the ratings.  It’s not really about one day though.  The nba product is awful and as you know I’m a guy who loves hoops. Between stars choosing to not play up to 20 percent of their games (thanks LeBron), ridiculous flopping (thanks LeBron and Embiid) and insane amount of 3 point shots (108 in one game last week) the product sucks in the regular season. 
    And 60 million idiots watched the Netflix Tyson "fight". So? Nobody in their right mind would have predicted the NBA got higher ratings than the NFL.

    Doesn't change what I said though. The NBA was WAAAY more entertaining yesterday. Not even close. Why are they playing football on a fucking Wednesday anyway? Ridiculous. 
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    Poncier said:
    The Juggler said:
    SPEEDY MCCREADY said:
    The 2 worst NFL teams playing each other on Christmas day is a better watch than any NBA game. I haven't watched a full NBA game in over 20 years. I've never watched more than 2 minutes of a game involving King LeBron.

    I hate the game
    I hate the product

    Fuck the NBA
     

    Also, not for nothing, but the NFL product is not what it used to be either. 
    Well, they remedied that issue tonight.
    What a gem, 14 punts, zero touchdowns. A sure-fire instant classic.
    There's a lot of bad football being played on Sundays...and Mondays...and Wednesdays....and Thursdays....and Fridays....and Saturdays. 

    The NFL has diluted itself. It's a weaker product and now it's spread thin throughout the week. 
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,530
    And I'd say that's not nothin'...


  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,913
    edited December 2024
    The Juggler said:
    Poncier said:
    The Juggler said:
    SPEEDY MCCREADY said:
    The 2 worst NFL teams playing each other on Christmas day is a better watch than any NBA game. I haven't watched a full NBA game in over 20 years. I've never watched more than 2 minutes of a game involving King LeBron.

    I hate the game
    I hate the product

    Fuck the NBA
     

    Also, not for nothing, but the NFL product is not what it used to be either. 
    Well, they remedied that issue tonight.
    What a gem, 14 punts, zero touchdowns. A sure-fire instant classic.
    There's a lot of bad football being played on Sundays...and Mondays...and Wednesdays....and Thursdays....and Fridays....and Saturdays. 

    The NFL has diluted itself. It's a weaker product and now it's spread thin throughout the week. 
    There seems to be more really bad teams than ever. 10 teams have 5 or less wins.  The chiefs haven’t scored 30 points in any one game and have only lost once. The nfl is Sydney Sweeney right now.  Top heavy and not really a beauty but a lot of men still really like her 
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    edited December 2024
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    And I'd say that's not nothin'...


    So basically the NFL's ratings were down compared to last Christmas, while the NBA's were up. This could drastically affect a lot of people's narratives....


    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/netflix-nfl-christmas-tv-ratings-1236094025/

    Netflix NFL Ratings: Christmas Games Set Streaming Record but Trail 2023 Broadcast Numbers

    The NBA's annual Christmas showcase also grows substantially, with all five games up year to year.


    DECEMBER 26, 2024 3:30PM

    Kamari Lassiter (left) of the Houston Texans tackles Derrick Henry of the Baltimore Ravens in their Christmas Day NFL gam.e ALEX SLITZ/GETTY IMAGES

    The first NFL games on Netflix brought in big audiences for the streamer — and the biggest ever for a streaming NFL matchup. But they came up short of the audience for last year’s Yuletide contests that ran on broadcast networks.

    The NBA also enjoyed a fruitful Christmas, with its five-game slate growing by a collective 84 percent from a year ago.

    Netflix’s two games averaged 24.2 million viewers, according to Nielsen fast national ratings (Nielsen is providing U.S. data for the games, as the NFL likes audience measurement to be uniform across all of its media partners). The early afternoon matchup between the Kansas City Chiefs and Pittsburgh Steelers posted 24.1 million viewers, and the Baltimore Ravens’ win over the Houston Texans came in at 24.3 million (both figures include over-the-air broadcasts in the teams’ local markets). The Netflix audience peaked at 27 million viewers during Beyoncé’s halftime performance at the Ravens-Texans game.

    Nielsen and Netflix say 65 million people watched at least a minute of the streamer’s NFL presentation.

    “Bringing our members this record-breaking day of two NFL games was the best Christmas gift we could have delivered,” said Bela Bajaria, Netflix’s chief content officer. “We’re thankful for our partnership with the NFL, all of our wonderful on-air talent, and let’s please not forget the electrifying Beyoncé and the brilliant Mariah Carey.”

    Added Hans Schroeder, executive vp media distribution for the NFL, “We’re thrilled with our first Christmas Gameday on Netflix with NFL games being streamed to a global audience.” Netflix says it will release its own worldwide data on the NFL games next week, which could give a more like-to-like comparison to its most recent big sporting event, November’s Jake Paul-Mike Tyson boxing match.

    The two games on Wednesday brought in about 5 million fewer viewers than did last year’s Christmas afternoon games, which drew 29.48 million and 29.02 million viewers on CBS and Fox. (A primetime Monday Night Football game on ABC and ESPN last year delivered 27.61 million viewers.) They are, however, at the higher end of regular-season contests this year, trailing the three Thanksgiving games (which averaged better than 33 million viewers), the season opener on Sept. 5 (29.2 million across all platforms), and several showcase games on CBS and Fox in the late Sunday afternoon window.

    The previous high for a streaming-exclusive NFL game was 23 million viewers for Peacock’s wild card playoff telecast in January. Amazon’s Prime Video is averaging 13.34 million viewers for its Thursday Night Football games this season (up 12 percent from a year ago), and Peacock pulled in 14 million viewers for a game in the opening week of the season.

    Wednesday’s games were the first in a three-year deal between the NFL and Netflix to stream games on Christmas.

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    In the NBA, the Christmas lineup averaged 5.25 million viewers on ABC and ESPN, a big increase from the all-time low of 2.85 million in 2023. ABC simulcast all five games this year, whereas the broadcaster only carried two a year ago due in part to its Monday Night Football obligation.

    A primetime matchup between the Los Angeles Lakers and Golden State Warriors led the slate with 7.76 million viewers, nearly six times the average for the comparable broadcast window a year ago. Lakers-Warriors was the most-watched NBA regular season game since 2019.

    The other four games all improved on their year-ago numbers as well, with the Minnesota Timberwolves and Dallas Mavericks drawing the second-largest hoops audience of the day at 5.16 million viewers. The New York Knicks and San Antonio Spurs averaged 4.91 million viewers, followed by the Philadelphia 76ers and Boston Celtics (4.38 million) and Denver Nuggets and Phoenix Suns (3.84 million). The latter was the biggest tune-in ever for the Christmas NBA nightcap.

    With the big jumps in viewership Wednesday, NBA games on ESPN platforms are now running 4 percent ahead of the same time last season, and the league’s national telecasts are off by just 4 percent year to year after running double digits behind numbers earlier in the season.

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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,274
    Poncier said:
    The Juggler said:
    SPEEDY MCCREADY said:
    The 2 worst NFL teams playing each other on Christmas day is a better watch than any NBA game. I haven't watched a full NBA game in over 20 years. I've never watched more than 2 minutes of a game involving King LeBron.

    I hate the game
    I hate the product

    Fuck the NBA
     

    Also, not for nothing, but the NFL product is not what it used to be either. 
    Well, they remedied that issue tonight.
    What a gem, 14 punts, zero touchdowns. A sure-fire instant classic.
    yesterday’s Bowl Mania was way better than ANYTHING professional athletes have participated in this week.

    and there wasn’t even much, if any, NIL money involved in yesterday’s games.
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
    Missoula 24
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,889
    Wobbie said:
    Poncier said:
    The Juggler said:
    SPEEDY MCCREADY said:
    The 2 worst NFL teams playing each other on Christmas day is a better watch than any NBA game. I haven't watched a full NBA game in over 20 years. I've never watched more than 2 minutes of a game involving King LeBron.

    I hate the game
    I hate the product

    Fuck the NBA
     

    Also, not for nothing, but the NFL product is not what it used to be either. 
    Well, they remedied that issue tonight.
    What a gem, 14 punts, zero touchdowns. A sure-fire instant classic.


    and there wasn’t even much, if any, NIL money involved in yesterday’s games.
    Stop kidding yourself

    Kansas State Star Quarterback Shows off Flashy Car from NIL Deal

    Pitt Panthers, Alliance 412 Change Football NIL Structure

    Is Rutgers starting to become a real threat to the Big Ten in the NIL era?
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,274
    Poncier said:
    Wobbie said:
    Poncier said:
    The Juggler said:
    SPEEDY MCCREADY said:
    The 2 worst NFL teams playing each other on Christmas day is a better watch than any NBA game. I haven't watched a full NBA game in over 20 years. I've never watched more than 2 minutes of a game involving King LeBron.

    I hate the game
    I hate the product

    Fuck the NBA
     

    Also, not for nothing, but the NFL product is not what it used to be either. 
    Well, they remedied that issue tonight.
    What a gem, 14 punts, zero touchdowns. A sure-fire instant classic.


    and there wasn’t even much, if any, NIL money involved in yesterday’s games.
    Stop kidding yourself

    Kansas State Star Quarterback Shows off Flashy Car from NIL Deal

    Pitt Panthers, Alliance 412 Change Football NIL Structure

    Is Rutgers starting to become a real threat to the Big Ten in the NIL era?
    grudgingly, I have to admit you’re right. I’m not happy about the NIL or your rightness.
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
    Missoula 24
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    Wobbie said:
    Poncier said:
    Wobbie said:
    Poncier said:
    The Juggler said:
    SPEEDY MCCREADY said:
    The 2 worst NFL teams playing each other on Christmas day is a better watch than any NBA game. I haven't watched a full NBA game in over 20 years. I've never watched more than 2 minutes of a game involving King LeBron.

    I hate the game
    I hate the product

    Fuck the NBA
     

    Also, not for nothing, but the NFL product is not what it used to be either. 
    Well, they remedied that issue tonight.
    What a gem, 14 punts, zero touchdowns. A sure-fire instant classic.


    and there wasn’t even much, if any, NIL money involved in yesterday’s games.
    Stop kidding yourself

    Kansas State Star Quarterback Shows off Flashy Car from NIL Deal

    Pitt Panthers, Alliance 412 Change Football NIL Structure

    Is Rutgers starting to become a real threat to the Big Ten in the NIL era?
    grudgingly, I have to admit you’re right. I’m not happy about the NIL or your rightness.
    The million overtimes to end that meaningless Pitt bowl game was ridiculous too. 
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,889
    Wobbie said:
    Poncier said:
    Wobbie said:
    Poncier said:
    The Juggler said:
    SPEEDY MCCREADY said:
    The 2 worst NFL teams playing each other on Christmas day is a better watch than any NBA game. I haven't watched a full NBA game in over 20 years. I've never watched more than 2 minutes of a game involving King LeBron.

    I hate the game
    I hate the product

    Fuck the NBA
     

    Also, not for nothing, but the NFL product is not what it used to be either. 
    Well, they remedied that issue tonight.
    What a gem, 14 punts, zero touchdowns. A sure-fire instant classic.


    and there wasn’t even much, if any, NIL money involved in yesterday’s games.
    Stop kidding yourself

    Kansas State Star Quarterback Shows off Flashy Car from NIL Deal

    Pitt Panthers, Alliance 412 Change Football NIL Structure

    Is Rutgers starting to become a real threat to the Big Ten in the NIL era?
    grudgingly, I have to admit you’re right. I’m not happy about the NIL or your rightness.
    Especially the latter. ;)
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,530
    Let the kids make money. If anything they're still not making enough money.
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,812
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Let the kids make money. If anything they're still not making enough money.
    Agree 1000%.

    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,274
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Let the kids make money. If anything they're still not making enough money.
    Agree 1000%.

    Disagree 100%.

    It’s ridiculously uneven. Deion’s kid $6M?
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
    Missoula 24
  • Vitalogensia
    Vitalogensia Posts: 2,197
    Funny that article mentions Pitt being 7-0. How’d the next six games go? ESP!
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,812
    Wobbie said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Let the kids make money. If anything they're still not making enough money.
    Agree 1000%.

    Disagree 100%.

    It’s ridiculously uneven. Deion’s kid $6M?
    How is that disagreeing 100%?
    Sounds like you are good with them getting paid (unsure how anyone can be against that given what whoring them out for years earned the NCAA) but would like to see the system even out some.
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,913
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Wobbie said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Let the kids make money. If anything they're still not making enough money.
    Agree 1000%.

    Disagree 100%.

    It’s ridiculously uneven. Deion’s kid $6M?
    How is that disagreeing 100%?
    Sounds like you are good with them getting paid (unsure how anyone can be against that given what whoring them out for years earned the NCAA) but would like to see the system even out some.
    To say they weren’t paid is a misnomer.  If you’re gonna pay them a millions dollars let’s take their scholarships away.  It’s not like education is even a priority anymore.  
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,812
    pjhawks said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Wobbie said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Let the kids make money. If anything they're still not making enough money.
    Agree 1000%.

    Disagree 100%.

    It’s ridiculously uneven. Deion’s kid $6M?
    How is that disagreeing 100%?
    Sounds like you are good with them getting paid (unsure how anyone can be against that given what whoring them out for years earned the NCAA) but would like to see the system even out some.
    To say they weren’t paid is a misnomer.  If you’re gonna pay them a millions dollars let’s take their scholarships away.  It’s not like education is even a priority anymore.  
    The cost of 4 years of school vs what the universities were making is not anything I consider true payment.  
    Full disclosure, I hate the NCAA with a burning passion.  They fucking suck, so I am not an unbiased party in this discussion. 
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,913
    edited December 2024
    F Me In The Brain said:
    pjhawks said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Wobbie said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Let the kids make money. If anything they're still not making enough money.
    Agree 1000%.

    Disagree 100%.

    It’s ridiculously uneven. Deion’s kid $6M?
    How is that disagreeing 100%?
    Sounds like you are good with them getting paid (unsure how anyone can be against that given what whoring them out for years earned the NCAA) but would like to see the system even out some.
    To say they weren’t paid is a misnomer.  If you’re gonna pay them a millions dollars let’s take their scholarships away.  It’s not like education is even a priority anymore.  
    The cost of 4 years of school vs what the universities were making is not anything I consider true payment.  
    Full disclosure, I hate the NCAA with a burning passion.  They fucking suck, so I am not an unbiased party in this discussion. 
    Another misnomer.  Very few athletic departments make money (google says only 28 in 2021 in D1)  Football and some basketball are funding every other sport at these universities.  The scam of NIL is that it’s not the schools paying the players but alumni fans and donors.  So right now paying players is only hurting the schools from those funds now funding NIL are not going to  the University directly.  Frankly the current NIL system for most of these schools is not sustainable.  Once the rules change and schools are forced to use their own funds you will also start seeing schools dropping sports.  I think long term if schools are forced to pay players the amount of division 1 opportunities will decrease.  
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