The Official 2025 Tour Rumor Thread
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Size of the venue was too big and no real discounts initially for the poorest seatsdrfox said:
Here from a U.K. perspective, as everyone has said multiple times the main reason the London show didn’t sell was the late announcement and people having Green Day / Glastonbury tickets, plus the terrible venue. No other reasonJD87070 said:
I don’t know, from everything i read the European shows, and especially the London shows, didn’t sell all that well. Not sure they would put in the effort it takes to do another tour over there anytime soon with that being the case.drfox said:
Agree. I do think there will be another Dark Matter Euro leg at some point. My guess is it will be double shows at London, Berlin, Amsterdam (all three of these are relatively close geography wise and have major airports) and 1-2 others. Same format as the 2024 legs.Gravey1975 said:
I'm not sure they could make a London show/s work financially without it being part of a wider regional tour.whereamigoin said:MikeDigs said:While there may not be a Europe tour, I have a feeling that London might get a show.
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I think that if the tickets were priced at £150 and the shows weren't on consecutive nights they may struggle to sell out 2 shows - the costs and logistics would definitely discourage some/many from doing both gigs which would have an impact. Barcelona night 2, for instance, was only 3/4 full.BlueLedbetter said:
Size of the venue was too big and no real discounts initially for the poorest seatsdrfox said:
Here from a U.K. perspective, as everyone has said multiple times the main reason the London show didn’t sell was the late announcement and people having Green Day / Glastonbury tickets, plus the terrible venue. No other reasonJD87070 said:
I don’t know, from everything i read the European shows, and especially the London shows, didn’t sell all that well. Not sure they would put in the effort it takes to do another tour over there anytime soon with that being the case.drfox said:
Agree. I do think there will be another Dark Matter Euro leg at some point. My guess is it will be double shows at London, Berlin, Amsterdam (all three of these are relatively close geography wise and have major airports) and 1-2 others. Same format as the 2024 legs.Gravey1975 said:
I'm not sure they could make a London show/s work financially without it being part of a wider regional tour.whereamigoin said:MikeDigs said:While there may not be a Europe tour, I have a feeling that London might get a show.
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Self-inflicted. 100 percent. Unreasonable price. Time of the announcement. Overlaps with concerts. Overlaps with the European Championship. Few cities in few countries. Dubious venue in London. We have enough desire to see the band live over here. But they fucked it up in 2024. Maybe they'll do better next time.JD87070 said:
I don’t know, from everything i read the European shows, and especially the London shows, didn’t sell all that well. Not sure they would put in the effort it takes to do another tour over there anytime soon with that being the case.drfox said:
Agree. I do think there will be another Dark Matter Euro leg at some point. My guess is it will be double shows at London, Berlin, Amsterdam (all three of these are relatively close geography wise and have major airports) and 1-2 others. Same format as the 2024 legs.Gravey1975 said:
I'm not sure they could make a London show/s work financially without it being part of a wider regional tour.whereamigoin said:MikeDigs said:While there may not be a Europe tour, I have a feeling that London might get a show.
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Yes that's what i meant about no tiered pricingGravey1975 said:
I think that if the tickets were priced at £150 and the shows weren't on consecutive nights they may struggle to sell out 2 shows - the costs and logistics would definitely discourage some/many from doing both gigs which would have an impact. Barcelona night 2, for instance, was only 3/4 full.BlueLedbetter said:
Size of the venue was too big and no real discounts initially for the poorest seatsdrfox said:
Here from a U.K. perspective, as everyone has said multiple times the main reason the London show didn’t sell was the late announcement and people having Green Day / Glastonbury tickets, plus the terrible venue. No other reasonJD87070 said:
I don’t know, from everything i read the European shows, and especially the London shows, didn’t sell all that well. Not sure they would put in the effort it takes to do another tour over there anytime soon with that being the case.drfox said:
Agree. I do think there will be another Dark Matter Euro leg at some point. My guess is it will be double shows at London, Berlin, Amsterdam (all three of these are relatively close geography wise and have major airports) and 1-2 others. Same format as the 2024 legs.Gravey1975 said:
I'm not sure they could make a London show/s work financially without it being part of a wider regional tour.whereamigoin said:MikeDigs said:While there may not be a Europe tour, I have a feeling that London might get a show.
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Plus you can't deny that shows in these Euro cities have always sold well until they changed the timing/prices etc this year.Zen23 said:
Self-inflicted. 100 percent. Unreasonable price. Time of the announcement. Overlaps with concerts. Overlaps with the European Championship. Few cities in few countries. Dubious venue in London. We have enough desire to see the band live over here. But they fucked it up in 2024. Maybe they'll do better next time.JD87070 said:
I don’t know, from everything i read the European shows, and especially the London shows, didn’t sell all that well. Not sure they would put in the effort it takes to do another tour over there anytime soon with that being the case.drfox said:
Agree. I do think there will be another Dark Matter Euro leg at some point. My guess is it will be double shows at London, Berlin, Amsterdam (all three of these are relatively close geography wise and have major airports) and 1-2 others. Same format as the 2024 legs.Gravey1975 said:
I'm not sure they could make a London show/s work financially without it being part of a wider regional tour.whereamigoin said:MikeDigs said:While there may not be a Europe tour, I have a feeling that London might get a show.'F*** the pessimists. F*** 'em.' Eddie Vedder0 -
I love this idea. And three awesome cities too. Then I sense that South America will be soon after. If not in 2025, then 2026 surely.drfox said:
Agree. I do think there will be another Dark Matter Euro leg at some point. My guess is it will be double shows at London, Berlin, Amsterdam (all three of these are relatively close geography wise and have major airports) and 1-2 others. Same format as the 2024 legs.Gravey1975 said:
I'm not sure they could make a London show/s work financially without it being part of a wider regional tour.whereamigoin said:MikeDigs said:While there may not be a Europe tour, I have a feeling that London might get a show.I'm spinning, oh-oh-oh I'm spinning0 -
Any hope left for a Canadian portion for a potential second leg of the tour?0
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There's always hope.2011: Vancouver
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Indeed!Original_Shifty said:There's always hope.
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Rebellions are built on hope.0
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Hope floats1996 Charlotte
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It was 95% price, with other artist overlap and late to the party being the other 5. You don’t think they could draw 45,000 in the UK? Please.JD87070 said:
I don’t know, from everything i read the European shows, and especially the London shows, didn’t sell all that well. Not sure they would put in the effort it takes to do another tour over there anytime soon with that being the case.drfox said:
Agree. I do think there will be another Dark Matter Euro leg at some point. My guess is it will be double shows at London, Berlin, Amsterdam (all three of these are relatively close geography wise and have major airports) and 1-2 others. Same format as the 2024 legs.Gravey1975 said:
I'm not sure they could make a London show/s work financially without it being part of a wider regional tour.whereamigoin said:MikeDigs said:While there may not be a Europe tour, I have a feeling that London might get a show.Berlin at Waldbuhne in 2018 was sold out, 2022 was sold out. So what was the difference in 2024?💰💰💰, and they still at the end of the day they most likely would've been sold out or very close to it. Is a show that is 90% sold not considered successful?
Manchester wasnt sold right out, but it didnt help that tm held back all those level 2 seats until a week before the show, and they were pricey as shit.0 -
Standing in Manchester was always available which is pretty crazy for a Manchester arena show. 100% it was the price - £170 I believe it was.0
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Not sure if this is a joke post or not…Haijay said:
There will be a run in Sept, leading up to Ohana. Buffalo, poss Hartford, Detroit, Cleveland, a few other cities, then Winnipeg, Saskatoon, Edmonton, and Calgaryjh288035 said:Any hope left for a Canadian portion for a potential second leg of the tour?0 -
🤫Haijay said:
There will be a run in Sept, leading up to Ohana. Buffalo, poss Hartford, Detroit, Cleveland, a few other cities, then Winnipeg, Saskatoon, Edmonton, and Calgaryjh288035 said:Any hope left for a Canadian portion for a potential second leg of the tour?1996: Randall's Island 2 1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2 2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel 2005: Atlantic City 1 2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV) 2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4 2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2 2011: Toronto 1 2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2015: Central Park 2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD) 2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF) 2020: MSG | Asbury Park 2021: Asbury Park 2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville 2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2025: Raleigh 20 -
Calgary. Yes. That would be my first visit to Canada.Haijay said:
There will be a run in Sept, leading up to Ohana. Buffalo, poss Hartford, Detroit, Cleveland, a few other cities, then Winnipeg, Saskatoon, Edmonton, and Calgaryjh288035 said:Any hope left for a Canadian portion for a potential second leg of the tour?
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Hope floats. Got hope in a boat. Carrying hope on the Dream Train to Ohana P35 :rock_on:
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Interesting. Can you say if there will be a show on or close to October 22nd?Haijay said:
There will be a run in Sept, leading up to Ohana. Buffalo, poss Hartford, Detroit, Cleveland, a few other cities, then Winnipeg, Saskatoon, Edmonton, and Calgaryjh288035 said:Any hope left for a Canadian portion for a potential second leg of the tour?1993 - Dallas ~~~ 1995 - Red Rocks I & II | Austin ~~~ 1998 - St Louis | Kansas City | Dallas | Raleigh | Atlanta | Birmingham | Greenville | Knoxville | Virginia Beach ~~~ 2000 - New Orleans | Memphis | Nashville | Noblesville | Cincinnati | Columbus | Houston I & II | Dallas | Las Vegas | LA | San Diego | San Bernardino | Sacramento | San Francisco ~~~ 2003 - OKC | San Antonio | Houston | Dallas | Little Rock | Camden I & II | MSG I & II ~~~ 2004 - Boston I & II | St Louis ~~~ 2005 - Gorge | Vancouver | Kitchener | London | Hamilton ~~~ 2006 - Las Vegas | Gorge I & II | Honolulu ~~~ 2008 - MSG I & II ~~~ 2009 - Seattle I & II | Vancouver | Portland | ACL | Philly I-IV ~~~ 2010 - Kansas City | St Louis ~~~ 2011 - PJ20 I & II ~~~ 2013 - Wrigley | Dallas | OKC ~~~ 2014 - ACL I | Tulsa | Moline | St Paul | Milwaukee | Denver ~~~ 2022 - OKC ~~~ 2023 - FW I & II | Austin I & II ~~~ 2024 - Seattle I & II
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Cool! 🤘Haijay said:
There will be a run in Sept, leading up to Ohana. Buffalo, poss Hartford, Detroit, Cleveland, a few other cities, then Winnipeg, Saskatoon, Edmonton, and Calgaryjh288035 said:Any hope left for a Canadian portion for a potential second leg of the tour?"This melody, inside of me, still searches for a solution."0
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