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  • mickeyrat
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    pjl44 said:
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    pjl44 said:
    Not surprisingly, Jon Stewart does a great job summing up the Tony Hinchcliffe ordeal 

    https://x.com/RepMeijer/status/1851124550945108448
    Did you laugh at the watermelon joke?
    I didn't actually see any of his MSG stuff. Just the quotes.
    Did you chuckle to yourself at the watermelon-quote?
    No, it didn't sound funny as it was written. However, did you watch the Jon Stewart video? He includes a clip from the Tom Brady roast that should allow you to extend your moral crusade by at least another day.

    setting and context help, no? at a roast the shit talk is directly at specific individuals,  most fellow comedians. its expected.

    at a campaign rally? not so much. approved by staff and uploaded to prompters....
    Yes, completely agree with you. I have no clue why the campaign would book him to do a roast set and I have no clue why he would deliver a roast set at a campaign rally.
    in fact reports are they balked at reference to harris as a c*nt.....
    obscene mysogny is a hard no, but bigotry and racism is on brand?

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  • Merkin Baller
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    That 2 minute Jon Stewart clip isn't without it's merit, but I think the whole 19 minute segment is worth watching, including Jessica William's commentary at the end. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOLqSUK0eBM

    There's a whole lot of gray area between Hinchliffe's routine being totally offensive and no big deal, especially considering the greater context of that rally and trump's anti-immigrant platform; that those particular comments are the singular focus is missing the forest for the trees IMO. 
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 25,011
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    the general rule should be if you are going to tell a joke at the expense of a marginalized community, you should probably workshop the joke in front of your friends that are of that community. if they laugh its funny, if not, maybe don't tell the joke.
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  • mickeyrat
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    gimmesometruth27 said:
    the general rule should be if you are going to tell a joke at the expense of a marginalized community, you should probably workshop the joke in front of your friends that are of that community. if they laugh its funny, if not, maybe don't tell the joke.

    but if your friends are largely other comedians  ......
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,337
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    pjl44 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    pjl44 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    pjl44 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    pjl44 said:
    Not surprisingly, Jon Stewart does a great job summing up the Tony Hinchcliffe ordeal 

    https://x.com/RepMeijer/status/1851124550945108448
    Did you laugh at the watermelon joke?
    I didn't actually see any of his MSG stuff. Just the quotes.
    Did you chuckle to yourself at the watermelon-quote?
    No, it didn't sound funny as it was written. However, did you watch the Jon Stewart video? He includes a clip from the Tom Brady roast that should allow you to extend your moral crusade by at least another day.

    setting and context help, no? at a roast the shit talk is directly at specific individuals,  most fellow comedians. its expected.

    at a campaign rally? not so much. approved by staff and uploaded to prompters....
    Yes, completely agree with you. I have no clue why the campaign would book him to do a roast set and I have no clue why he would deliver a roast set at a campaign rally.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,683
    Which thread is for the election?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
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    mickeyrat said:
    pjl44 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    pjl44 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    pjl44 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    pjl44 said:
    Not surprisingly, Jon Stewart does a great job summing up the Tony Hinchcliffe ordeal 

    https://x.com/RepMeijer/status/1851124550945108448
    Did you laugh at the watermelon joke?
    I didn't actually see any of his MSG stuff. Just the quotes.
    Did you chuckle to yourself at the watermelon-quote?
    No, it didn't sound funny as it was written. However, did you watch the Jon Stewart video? He includes a clip from the Tom Brady roast that should allow you to extend your moral crusade by at least another day.

    setting and context help, no? at a roast the shit talk is directly at specific individuals,  most fellow comedians. its expected.

    at a campaign rally? not so much. approved by staff and uploaded to prompters....
    Yes, completely agree with you. I have no clue why the campaign would book him to do a roast set and I have no clue why he would deliver a roast set at a campaign rally.
    in fact reports are they balked at reference to harris as a c*nt.....
    obscene mysogny is a hard no, but bigotry and racism is on brand?

    They are calling her a c*nt though.

    "Musk super PAC pulls controversial ad that used vulgar wordplay about Harris"

    https://edition.cnn.com/2024/10/28/politics/video/musk-super-pac-ad-harris-c-word-ebof-digvid
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,683
    edited October 2024
    pjl44 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    pjl44 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    pjl44 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    pjl44 said:
    Not surprisingly, Jon Stewart does a great job summing up the Tony Hinchcliffe ordeal 

    https://x.com/RepMeijer/status/1851124550945108448
    Did you laugh at the watermelon joke?
    I didn't actually see any of his MSG stuff. Just the quotes.
    Did you chuckle to yourself at the watermelon-quote?
    No, it didn't sound funny as it was written. However, did you watch the Jon Stewart video? He includes a clip from the Tom Brady roast that should allow you to extend your moral crusade by at least another day.
    Yes I have seen it. And I don't think his comparison of Beyonce singing or not singing and having someone having to be racist is all that clever.

    Neither do I understand why you see racism as an integral part of the art of "roasting". Or comedy for that matter. Didn't Carlin elegantly speak about comedy and punching up, not punching down and denigrate people? 

    I imagine that you can have Beyonce speak or sing. And i imagine you can have a "roast comic" come in, and be clever and edgy but not be racist. 

    Maybe you and Stewart disagree. Maybe you need that racism.
    His throwaway Beyonce joke at the end is your focus? I was talking about the roast clip. Did you see all those brilliant people on stage laughing together and having a great time? A beautiful pastiche of our great multicultural society? It's possible to find happiness, my friend. It may seem impossible but it is possible.
    Yes, I saw those. 

    Seems to me by your answers, you do need racism in your comedy. Disappointing. Don't know how unexpected. 
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
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    Could be the next president of the United States:

    Later that month, Trump continued to goad North Korea through his tweets. But Kelly was more concerned about what Trump was saying privately, Schmidt reports.


    "What scared Kelly even more than the tweets was the fact that behind closed doors in the Oval Office, Trump continued to talk as if he wanted to go to war. He cavalierly discussed the idea of using a nuclear weapon against North Korea, saying that if he took such an action, the administration could blame someone else for it to absolve itself of responsibility," according to the new section of the book.

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • benjs
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    What do folks think Trump envies more - Hitler’s generals or Arnold Palmer’s genitals? 
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
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    benjs said:
    What do folks think Trump envies more 
    Jared Kushner
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,987
    edited October 2024
    Attorney Ben Meiselas has analysis and speculation about the secret plot when he loses.
    Could it succeed? Will they get the chance to try it? Doesn't it disenfranchise voters?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3uAm4c5wHQ
    Post edited by Kat on
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  • pjl44
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    mickeyrat said:
    pjl44 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    pjl44 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    pjl44 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    pjl44 said:
    Not surprisingly, Jon Stewart does a great job summing up the Tony Hinchcliffe ordeal 

    https://x.com/RepMeijer/status/1851124550945108448
    Did you laugh at the watermelon joke?
    I didn't actually see any of his MSG stuff. Just the quotes.
    Did you chuckle to yourself at the watermelon-quote?
    No, it didn't sound funny as it was written. However, did you watch the Jon Stewart video? He includes a clip from the Tom Brady roast that should allow you to extend your moral crusade by at least another day.

    setting and context help, no? at a roast the shit talk is directly at specific individuals,  most fellow comedians. its expected.

    at a campaign rally? not so much. approved by staff and uploaded to prompters....
    Yes, completely agree with you. I have no clue why the campaign would book him to do a roast set and I have no clue why he would deliver a roast set at a campaign rally.
    in fact reports are they balked at reference to harris as a c*nt.....
    obscene mysogny is a hard no, but bigotry and racism is on brand?

    The most damning part of that report, assuming it's accurate, is that someone with veto power indeed got a look at it first
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,890
    2023
    pjl44 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    pjl44 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    pjl44 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    pjl44 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    pjl44 said:
    Not surprisingly, Jon Stewart does a great job summing up the Tony Hinchcliffe ordeal 

    https://x.com/RepMeijer/status/1851124550945108448
    Did you laugh at the watermelon joke?
    I didn't actually see any of his MSG stuff. Just the quotes.
    Did you chuckle to yourself at the watermelon-quote?
    No, it didn't sound funny as it was written. However, did you watch the Jon Stewart video? He includes a clip from the Tom Brady roast that should allow you to extend your moral crusade by at least another day.

    setting and context help, no? at a roast the shit talk is directly at specific individuals,  most fellow comedians. its expected.

    at a campaign rally? not so much. approved by staff and uploaded to prompters....
    Yes, completely agree with you. I have no clue why the campaign would book him to do a roast set and I have no clue why he would deliver a roast set at a campaign rally.
    in fact reports are they balked at reference to harris as a c*nt.....
    obscene mysogny is a hard no, but bigotry and racism is on brand?

    The most damning part of that report, assuming it's accurate, is that someone with veto power indeed got a look at it first
    yeah and they didn't object to the watermelon and PR garbage jokes
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  • pjl44
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    Gern Blansten said:
    pjl44 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    pjl44 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    pjl44 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    pjl44 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    pjl44 said:
    Not surprisingly, Jon Stewart does a great job summing up the Tony Hinchcliffe ordeal 

    https://x.com/RepMeijer/status/1851124550945108448
    Did you laugh at the watermelon joke?
    I didn't actually see any of his MSG stuff. Just the quotes.
    Did you chuckle to yourself at the watermelon-quote?
    No, it didn't sound funny as it was written. However, did you watch the Jon Stewart video? He includes a clip from the Tom Brady roast that should allow you to extend your moral crusade by at least another day.

    setting and context help, no? at a roast the shit talk is directly at specific individuals,  most fellow comedians. its expected.

    at a campaign rally? not so much. approved by staff and uploaded to prompters....
    Yes, completely agree with you. I have no clue why the campaign would book him to do a roast set and I have no clue why he would deliver a roast set at a campaign rally.
    in fact reports are they balked at reference to harris as a c*nt.....
    obscene mysogny is a hard no, but bigotry and racism is on brand?

    The most damning part of that report, assuming it's accurate, is that someone with veto power indeed got a look at it first
    yeah and they didn't object to the watermelon and PR garbage jokes
    It's so insane that you could almost convince me it's an internal sabotage conspiracy. But in reality we know it's loons at the helm.
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    And apologists on the forums.
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    POOTWH claimed that he’ll cut your energy costs in 50% in the first year starting on 1/20 during his MSG Nazi rally. Who here sieg heiled?

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  • Kat
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    Kat said:
    Attorney Ben Meiselas has analysis and speculation about the secret plot when he loses.
    Could it succeed? Will they get the chance to try it? Doesn't it disenfranchise voters?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3uAm4c5wHQ
    Another discussion about it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSM7B8apkl4
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  • gimmesometruth27
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    2023
    benjs said:
    What do folks think Trump envies more - Hitler’s generals or Arnold Palmer’s genitals? 
    the genitals. 100%.
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
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    Uh oh, did I get that thread closed?
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