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  • Get_Right
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    You do not see the brains behind the operation. Just saying and I have no skin in this game, just objectively calling it like I see it.
    I hate to break it to you, but if you live in America, you have skin in the game.

    Just saying.
    I also found that an odd thing to say.
    What skin is that? Do you really think that what happens in Washington impacts your daily life? If your are poor then yes. If you are rich then yes. If in the middle then nothing changes. No matter who wins. I vote as an exercise of democracy, not because I think one candidate is really going to make a difference in my life. That is why I have no skin in the game. It really will not affect my life one way or another. Read Federalist Paper No. 10. The government is run by factions, and I am not in a faction. Scary how accurate that is.
    I could probably list several examples to counter the cynical apathy, but ask a kid whose dad got killed in Iraq if it matters who wins. 
    Apathetic no, cynical yes. And does it really matter to that kid? Will he get more benefits under one or the other? Will one or the other prevent his dad from going there in the first place? Not sure it really matters. Again, I do not think it matters to my daily life, and that is why I am cynical.
    Hmm…I think you missed the point I was making which is there is no Iraq war if Gore was elected. 

    Not missed. And I don't want to offend any veterans. Thank you for your service. But did that war make any difference in your life? It is just politics and posturing. And yes there was violence and death that could have been avoided. And that is sad. But did it really impact your daily life?
    the problem here is your position being that the lives you KNOW get destroyed by decisions politicians make as "not affecting me". I'm Canadian and I care about this. 

    Well it is true that people get fucked by governments all over the world. I cannot control that. All I am saying is that in my world, however privileged that might be, it is not going to make a difference if Kamala or Trump gets elected. Nothing In my day to day is going to change. That does not mean I do not have compassion for those that might be directly impacted.
  • mickeyrat
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  • Get_Right
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    mickeyrat said:
    think it affected the daily life of these guys referenced here.

    you should stop now.

    Friend I am not going to go there. I do not need a lesson on military service. I get it more than you know. I am not asking about the life of enlisted men and women and I am not casting any views on them.

    my read is you already went there...

    "Not missed. And I don't want to offend any veterans. Thank you for your service. But did that war make any difference in your life? "

    Let me clarify, did that war make any difference in your CIVILIAN life? Come on you know what I meant.
  • Get_Right
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    mickeyrat said:

    He says nothing here, 100% deflection. He is not taking any position just saying people seem to be unhappy with FEMA.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    2024
    Get_Right said:
    mickeyrat said:

    He says nothing here, 100% deflection. He is not taking any position just saying people seem to be unhappy with FEMA.
    listen again. he doubles down saying "if they were doing a good job, we'd say it. but they aren't doing a good job, so you aren't allowed to say it". he's literally the worst leader the free world has ever seen. 
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  • 2023
    mrussel1 said:
    Get_Right said:
    mickeyrat said:
    think it affected the daily life of these guys referenced here.

    you should stop now.

    Friend I am not going to go there. I do not need a lesson on military service. I get it more than you know. I am not asking about the life of enlisted men and women and I am not casting any views on them.
    So cast your vote and care not because it affects or doesn't affect you directly,  but how it affects your fellow citizens. 
    Fellow citizens? Fellow citizens you say? Fuck them. They ought to pull themselves up by the bootstraps like I did. And why should I care if someone else’s kid fights and dies in a disastrous foreign conflict, dies from Covid or a complication during pregnancy? Doesn’t affect me so who gives a shit who’s in office and afterall, my charitable contributions of my time and resources leave me with a clear conscience but I’m losing patience with all the other around. Come to think of it, double fuck them. I’ve got mine.
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  • mickeyrat
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    Get_Right said:

    Get_Right said:
    mickeyrat said:
    think it affected the daily life of these guys referenced here.

    you should stop now.

    Friend I am not going to go there. I do not need a lesson on military service. I get it more than you know. I am not asking about the life of enlisted men and women and I am not casting any views on them.

    my read is you already went there...

    "Not missed. And I don't want to offend any veterans. Thank you for your service. But did that war make any difference in your life? "

    Let me clarify, did that war make any difference in your CIVILIAN life? Come on you know what I meant.

    clearly I did not. that question was posed directly after you seemed to be speaking to any vets that may be here , of that conflict.

    I am not of that conflict but did serve. I find it offensive and extraordinarily callous.

    take a suggestion, decline further reference , let your statements stand. its indefensible.
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  • mickeyrat
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
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    2023
    Okay fine, you don't care about people dying from lack of health care or from wars started on false premises or from COVID after the president tossed the last guy's pandemic playbook in the trash or from government getting involved in women's health care. Fine. You just don't care, you're gonna watch Netflix and not have a care in the world. Right.

    Maybe you'll care about this.

    Trump's proposed "tariffs" - nothing but a massive tax hike on you and me while Elon Musk and his buddies get to get even richer, will destroy our economy. Your 401(k) will get torpedoed. Everything you buy will be way more expensive, if you can get it (remember the toilet paper).

    Trump's massive deportations will destroy our economy. You gonna go milk those cows yourself? Pick potatoes out of the ground. Yeah, I doubt it.

    Every recession and economic meltdown of my post-teenage life has been under a friggin Republican, and this will be worse than all of them.
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  • Merkin Baller
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  • 2023
    Seems we have a few on here. From Letter From An American. And we were told it couldn’t happen here and that comparisons to Hitler were madness and maybe antisemitism. Good fucking luck:

    Examining a number of types of Americans, she wrote that the line between democracy and fascism was not wealth, or education, or race, or age, or nationality. “Kind, good, happy, gentlemanly, secure people never go Nazi,” she wrote. They were secure enough to be good natured and open to new ideas, and they believed so completely in the promise of American democracy that they would defend it with their lives, even if they seemed too easygoing to join a struggle. “But the frustrated and humiliated intellectual, the rich and scared speculator, the spoiled son, the labor tyrant, the fellow who has achieved success by smelling out the wind of success—they would all go Nazi in a crisis,” she wrote. “Those who haven’t anything in them to tell them what they like and what they don’t—whether it is breeding, or happiness, or wisdom, or a code, however old-fashioned or however modern, go Nazi.”
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  • 2023
    You’re being told what POOTWH is going to do and some will just goose step along blaming the victims because in their mind it doesn’t matter one iota in their personal life who gets elected to public office. I look forward to the “Heil” sign offs soon. From Letter From An American:

    On Saturday, September 7, Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump predicted that his plan to deport 15 to 20 million people currently living in the United States would be “bloody.” He also promised to prosecute his political opponents, including, he wrote, lawyers, political operatives, donors, illegal voters, and election officials. Retired chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley told journalist Bob Woodward that Trump is “a fascist to the core…the most dangerous person to this country.” 

    On October 14, Trump told Fox News Channel host Maria Bartiromo that he thought enemies within the United States were more dangerous than foreign adversaries and that he thought the military should stop those “radical left lunatics” on Election Day. Since then, he has been talking a lot about “the enemy from within,” specifically naming Representative Adam Schiff and former House speaker Nancy Pelosi, both Democrats from California, as “bad people.” Schiff was the chair of the House Intelligence Committee that broke the 2019 story of Trump’s attempt to extort Volodymyr Zelensky that led to Trump’s first impeachment. 

    Trump’s references to the “enemy from within” have become so frequent that former White House press secretary turned political analyst Jen Psaki has called them his closing argument for the 2024 election, and she warned that his construction of those who oppose him as “enemies” might sweep in virtually anyone he feels is a threat.


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  • Merkin Baller
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    You’re being told what POOTWH is going to do and some will just goose step along blaming the victims because in their mind it doesn’t matter one iota in their personal life who gets elected to public office. I look forward to the “Heil” sign offs soon. From Letter From An American:

    On Saturday, September 7, Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump predicted that his plan to deport 15 to 20 million people currently living in the United States would be “bloody.” He also promised to prosecute his political opponents, including, he wrote, lawyers, political operatives, donors, illegal voters, and election officials. Retired chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley told journalist Bob Woodward that Trump is “a fascist to the core…the most dangerous person to this country.” 

    On October 14, Trump told Fox News Channel host Maria Bartiromo that he thought enemies within the United States were more dangerous than foreign adversaries and that he thought the military should stop those “radical left lunatics” on Election Day. Since then, he has been talking a lot about “the enemy from within,” specifically naming Representative Adam Schiff and former House speaker Nancy Pelosi, both Democrats from California, as “bad people.” Schiff was the chair of the House Intelligence Committee that broke the 2019 story of Trump’s attempt to extort Volodymyr Zelensky that led to Trump’s first impeachment. 

    Trump’s references to the “enemy from within” have become so frequent that former White House press secretary turned political analyst Jen Psaki has called them his closing argument for the 2024 election, and she warned that his construction of those who oppose him as “enemies” might sweep in virtually anyone he feels is a threat.


    Yeah, but how is any of this going to change MY day to day life though? 
  • 2023
    From WaPo. But who fucking cares who gets elected? Doesn’t impact your personal life at all. And fuck them everydayers, they’re not ME! Might want to check your stocks of your bugout hideaway and buy gold. POOTWH gold coins to be precise.

    Two of Trump’s promises, repeated endlessly with the emotional delivery that men tend to reserve for bar brawls, hew closely to this belief set: The vow to deport millions of immigrants; and the plan to curtail the world’s access to U.S. markets by raising tariffs — against imports from China, mainly, but also those from everywhere else.

    These threats have been too casually lumped in with Trump’s stream of implausible promises and statements — entangled in Trump’s rhetorical weave. Unfortunately for us all, he threatens tariffs and deportations with the passion of a true believer.

    America, be afraid. Though each of these proposals alone could cause considerable damage to the economy, together they would conjure a perfect storm of self-inflicted harm. Kimberly Clausing, an economist at UCLA, put it calmly: “It is not hyperbolic at all to say this could cause a depression.”

    How bad? Three economists — Warwick McKibbin of the Australian National University, along with Megan Hogan and Marcus Noland of the Peterson Institute for International Economics — fed Trump’s proposals into a multicountry economic model that is often used by central banks, government agencies and international institutions to assess scenarios and analyze policy.

    They plugged in the deportation of 8.3 million unauthorized workersestimated to be toiling across the economy. They added a 60 percent tariff imposed on Chinese imports and a 10 percent tariff on imports from all other countries.

    They added a third possible outcome that aligns well with Trump’s deep-seated desire for absolute power: that he would end the political independence of the Federal Reserve to steer interest rates and the dollar’s exchange rate to propel faster economic growth and terminate the nation’s trade deficit.

    If Trump got all he asked for, the model said, the outcome would be pretty bad.

    Trump could claim a “win”: The current account deficit — the broadest measure of the nation’s trade balance — would snap into a surplus, a longtime dream of the former president’s. But that would be wholly a product of capital fleeing the United States, starving the country’s economy of resources to purchase imports.

    For everyday Americans, reality would become a nightmare: Trump’s plan would shrink the nation’s gross domestic product by $8 trillion over a second presidency, in today’s money. That is more than a quarter of the nation’s economic output in 2024. At the end of that term, prices would be about 25 percent higher. Employment would tank. The dollar would sink. Apocalyptic stuff.

    What would have gone wrong? Standing annoyingly in the way of Trump’s MAGA dream is math.

    Deporting 5 percent of the workforce would deliver a massive double whammy to the economy. It would boost inflation (through rising wages) even as it slowed growth by curbing consumer spending (immigrants are consumers) and investment as businesses with fewer workers to hire would invest less in themselves. This would ultimately cause deeper job losses.

    The deportations alone would knock $6.4 trillion off American output over Trump’s term in office, according to the economists’ model. The additional tariffs would deal a bedraggled economy yet another blow. They would directly boost inflation by raising the price of imports (as well as that of the domestic goods that competed with them). But because the United States would need less foreign currency to pay for imports, the tariffs would also boost the dollar, curbing U.S. exports, too.

    Other countries, moreover, would probably not take kindly to Trump’s tariffs and retaliate with tariffs of their own, blocking U.S. exports and further slowing economic growth in the United States.

    Finally, curbing the Fed’s independence would deliver the coup de grâce. If Trump pushed rates down to goose growth, GDP and employment might get a short-term boost. But that growth would soon be eaten up by higher inflation. And, ominously, investors’ mistrust of a Trump-led Fed would surely spur substantial capital flight.

    Maybe Trump can be prevented from doing some of this. Maybe he only manages to deport a couple million undocumented workers. Maybe he can’t easily raise tariffs on countries with which the United States has trade agreements. Taking away the Fed’s independence could get entangled in constitutional niceties.

    But one should not assume that Trump will be easily deterred. After struggling with grown-ups in his first administration, it is unlikely he will bring many into a second. And congressional Republicans looking to get in Trump’s way will first have to find their spines.

    Perhaps the ultimate irony is that the red-hat crowd that so reveres Trump will be punished the most by his plans. The MAGA contingent might think it’s okay to burn down the house to stick it to the liberal elites that populate blue coastal America. But it’s the homes of working-class Americans that will burn first. Tariffs, for one, are particularly harmful to the poor, who consume most of what they earn with little left over for savings. The rich pay the “tariff tax” on a much smaller share of their income.

    And, so, the United States will have gotten back at the world — asserting its hegemony and making itself great again through an act of economic suicide.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/10/22/trump-economic-policy-depression-catastrophe/

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  • 2023
    Careful what you wish for. From the same WaPo article linked above:

    Perhaps the ultimate irony is that the red-hat crowd that so reveres Trump will be punished the most by his plans. The MAGA contingent might think it’s okay to burn down the house to stick it to the liberal elites that populate blue coastal America. But it’s the homes of working-class Americans that will burn first. Tariffs, for one, are particularly harmful to the poor, who consume most of what they earn with little left over for savings. The rich pay the “tariff tax” on a much smaller share of their income.
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,359
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    "tariff tax" - that's a redundant statement - tariffs are taxes. See: dictionary.
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  • Kat
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    Elevate the discussion please. Name-calling, insults, etc., will make accounts read-only....probably until after the election. Please review your posts before you hit submit....................

    And talk about the topic, NOT each other. 

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  • 2023
    "tariff tax" - that's a redundant statement - tariffs are taxes. See: dictionary.
    Tell WaPo. Although I’ve experienced a decline in the quality of their reporting since they offered buy outs to senior staff. 
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,401
    "tariff tax" - that's a redundant statement - tariffs are taxes. See: dictionary.
    Tell WaPo. Although I’ve experienced a decline in the quality of their reporting since they offered buy outs to senior staff. 
    It's been hit or miss. The comments sections really show how a lot of subscribers are fed up with the changes.
    It's a hopeless situation...
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