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I could probably list several examples to counter the cynical apathy, but ask a kid whose dad got killed in Iraq if it matters who wins.Get_Right said:
What skin is that? Do you really think that what happens in Washington impacts your daily life? If your are poor then yes. If you are rich then yes. If in the middle then nothing changes. No matter who wins. I vote as an exercise of democracy, not because I think one candidate is really going to make a difference in my life. That is why I have no skin in the game. It really will not affect my life one way or another. Read Federalist Paper No. 10. The government is run by factions, and I am not in a faction. Scary how accurate that is.Johnny Abruzzo said:
I also found that an odd thing to say.Merkin Baller said:
I hate to break it to you, but if you live in America, you have skin in the game.Get_Right said:You do not see the brains behind the operation. Just saying and I have no skin in this game, just objectively calling it like I see it.
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Or whose loved one died from Covid. Or someone who lost a pet.Go Beavers said:
I could probably list several examples to counter the cynical apathy, but ask a kid whose dad got killed in Iraq if it matters who wins.Get_Right said:
What skin is that? Do you really think that what happens in Washington impacts your daily life? If your are poor then yes. If you are rich then yes. If in the middle then nothing changes. No matter who wins. I vote as an exercise of democracy, not because I think one candidate is really going to make a difference in my life. That is why I have no skin in the game. It really will not affect my life one way or another. Read Federalist Paper No. 10. The government is run by factions, and I am not in a faction. Scary how accurate that is.Johnny Abruzzo said:
I also found that an odd thing to say.Merkin Baller said:
I hate to break it to you, but if you live in America, you have skin in the game.Get_Right said:You do not see the brains behind the operation. Just saying and I have no skin in this game, just objectively calling it like I see it.
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Apathetic no, cynical yes. And does it really matter to that kid? Will he get more benefits under one or the other? Will one or the other prevent his dad from going there in the first place? Not sure it really matters. Again, I do not think it matters to my daily life, and that is why I am cynical.Go Beavers said:
I could probably list several examples to counter the cynical apathy, but ask a kid whose dad got killed in Iraq if it matters who wins.Get_Right said:
What skin is that? Do you really think that what happens in Washington impacts your daily life? If your are poor then yes. If you are rich then yes. If in the middle then nothing changes. No matter who wins. I vote as an exercise of democracy, not because I think one candidate is really going to make a difference in my life. That is why I have no skin in the game. It really will not affect my life one way or another. Read Federalist Paper No. 10. The government is run by factions, and I am not in a faction. Scary how accurate that is.Johnny Abruzzo said:
I also found that an odd thing to say.Merkin Baller said:
I hate to break it to you, but if you live in America, you have skin in the game.Get_Right said:You do not see the brains behind the operation. Just saying and I have no skin in this game, just objectively calling it like I see it.
Just saying.
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Tell that to to the millions of women who lost the right to choose as, essentially, a result of the 2016 election.Get_Right said:
What skin is that? Do you really think that what happens in Washington impacts your daily life? If your are poor then yes. If you are rich then yes. If in the middle then nothing changes. No matter who wins. I vote as an exercise of democracy, not because I think one candidate is really going to make a difference in my life. That is why I have no skin in the game. It really will not affect my life one way or another. Read Federalist Paper No. 10. The government is run by factions, and I am not in a faction. Scary how accurate that is.Johnny Abruzzo said:
I also found that an odd thing to say.Merkin Baller said:
I hate to break it to you, but if you live in America, you have skin in the game.Get_Right said:You do not see the brains behind the operation. Just saying and I have no skin in this game, just objectively calling it like I see it.
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The point is that we would not have gone to Iraq if Gore won. Not about the benefits.Get_Right said:
Apathetic no, cynical yes. And does it really matter to that kid? Will he get more benefits under one or the other? Will one or the other prevent his dad from going there in the first place? Not sure it really matters. Again, I do not think it matters to my daily life, and that is why I am cynical.Go Beavers said:
I could probably list several examples to counter the cynical apathy, but ask a kid whose dad got killed in Iraq if it matters who wins.Get_Right said:
What skin is that? Do you really think that what happens in Washington impacts your daily life? If your are poor then yes. If you are rich then yes. If in the middle then nothing changes. No matter who wins. I vote as an exercise of democracy, not because I think one candidate is really going to make a difference in my life. That is why I have no skin in the game. It really will not affect my life one way or another. Read Federalist Paper No. 10. The government is run by factions, and I am not in a faction. Scary how accurate that is.Johnny Abruzzo said:
I also found that an odd thing to say.Merkin Baller said:
I hate to break it to you, but if you live in America, you have skin in the game.Get_Right said:You do not see the brains behind the operation. Just saying and I have no skin in this game, just objectively calling it like I see it.
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The Juggler said:
Tell that to to the millions of women who lost the right to choose as, essentially, a result of the 2016 election.Get_Right said:
What skin is that? Do you really think that what happens in Washington impacts your daily life? If your are poor then yes. If you are rich then yes. If in the middle then nothing changes. No matter who wins. I vote as an exercise of democracy, not because I think one candidate is really going to make a difference in my life. That is why I have no skin in the game. It really will not affect my life one way or another. Read Federalist Paper No. 10. The government is run by factions, and I am not in a faction. Scary how accurate that is.Johnny Abruzzo said:
I also found that an odd thing to say.Merkin Baller said:
I hate to break it to you, but if you live in America, you have skin in the game.Get_Right said:You do not see the brains behind the operation. Just saying and I have no skin in this game, just objectively calling it like I see it.
Just saying.
The greatest embarrassment of our country in the last 50 years. I give you that. But it is just politics and legal maneuvering. Women can still get the right to choose. Just not in certain states.0 -
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which could literally mean life or death for those without the means to travel out of state.Get_Right said:The Juggler said:
Tell that to to the millions of women who lost the right to choose as, essentially, a result of the 2016 election.Get_Right said:
What skin is that? Do you really think that what happens in Washington impacts your daily life? If your are poor then yes. If you are rich then yes. If in the middle then nothing changes. No matter who wins. I vote as an exercise of democracy, not because I think one candidate is really going to make a difference in my life. That is why I have no skin in the game. It really will not affect my life one way or another. Read Federalist Paper No. 10. The government is run by factions, and I am not in a faction. Scary how accurate that is.Johnny Abruzzo said:
I also found that an odd thing to say.Merkin Baller said:
I hate to break it to you, but if you live in America, you have skin in the game.Get_Right said:You do not see the brains behind the operation. Just saying and I have no skin in this game, just objectively calling it like I see it.
Just saying.
The greatest embarrassment of our country in the last 50 years. I give you that. But it is just politics and legal maneuvering. Women can still get the right to choose. Just not in certain states.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
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which could literally mean life or death for those without the means to travel out of state.Get_Right said:The Juggler said:
Tell that to to the millions of women who lost the right to choose as, essentially, a result of the 2016 election.Get_Right said:
What skin is that? Do you really think that what happens in Washington impacts your daily life? If your are poor then yes. If you are rich then yes. If in the middle then nothing changes. No matter who wins. I vote as an exercise of democracy, not because I think one candidate is really going to make a difference in my life. That is why I have no skin in the game. It really will not affect my life one way or another. Read Federalist Paper No. 10. The government is run by factions, and I am not in a faction. Scary how accurate that is.Johnny Abruzzo said:
I also found that an odd thing to say.Merkin Baller said:
I hate to break it to you, but if you live in America, you have skin in the game.Get_Right said:You do not see the brains behind the operation. Just saying and I have no skin in this game, just objectively calling it like I see it.
Just saying.
The greatest embarrassment of our country in the last 50 years. I give you that. But it is just politics and legal maneuvering. Women can still get the right to choose. Just not in certain states.
Fair. But the door is not closed. I will pay for any woman that needs a ride to New York (limit 10).0 -
Your statements are getting foolish in the attempt to defend your position.Get_Right said:HughFreakingDillon said:
which could literally mean life or death for those without the means to travel out of state.Get_Right said:The Juggler said:
Tell that to to the millions of women who lost the right to choose as, essentially, a result of the 2016 election.Get_Right said:
What skin is that? Do you really think that what happens in Washington impacts your daily life? If your are poor then yes. If you are rich then yes. If in the middle then nothing changes. No matter who wins. I vote as an exercise of democracy, not because I think one candidate is really going to make a difference in my life. That is why I have no skin in the game. It really will not affect my life one way or another. Read Federalist Paper No. 10. The government is run by factions, and I am not in a faction. Scary how accurate that is.Johnny Abruzzo said:
I also found that an odd thing to say.Merkin Baller said:
I hate to break it to you, but if you live in America, you have skin in the game.Get_Right said:You do not see the brains behind the operation. Just saying and I have no skin in this game, just objectively calling it like I see it.
Just saying.
The greatest embarrassment of our country in the last 50 years. I give you that. But it is just politics and legal maneuvering. Women can still get the right to choose. Just not in certain states.
Fair. But the door is not closed. I will pay for any woman that needs a ride to New York (limit 10).0 -
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Your statements are getting foolish in the attempt to defend your position.Get_Right said:HughFreakingDillon said:
which could literally mean life or death for those without the means to travel out of state.Get_Right said:The Juggler said:
Tell that to to the millions of women who lost the right to choose as, essentially, a result of the 2016 election.Get_Right said:
What skin is that? Do you really think that what happens in Washington impacts your daily life? If your are poor then yes. If you are rich then yes. If in the middle then nothing changes. No matter who wins. I vote as an exercise of democracy, not because I think one candidate is really going to make a difference in my life. That is why I have no skin in the game. It really will not affect my life one way or another. Read Federalist Paper No. 10. The government is run by factions, and I am not in a faction. Scary how accurate that is.Johnny Abruzzo said:
I also found that an odd thing to say.Merkin Baller said:
I hate to break it to you, but if you live in America, you have skin in the game.Get_Right said:You do not see the brains behind the operation. Just saying and I have no skin in this game, just objectively calling it like I see it.
Just saying.
The greatest embarrassment of our country in the last 50 years. I give you that. But it is just politics and legal maneuvering. Women can still get the right to choose. Just not in certain states.
Fair. But the door is not closed. I will pay for any woman that needs a ride to New York (limit 10).
I do not have a position. And maybe that is the bigger problem.0 -
Hmm…I think you missed the point I was making which is there is no Iraq war if Gore was elected.Get_Right said:
Apathetic no, cynical yes. And does it really matter to that kid? Will he get more benefits under one or the other? Will one or the other prevent his dad from going there in the first place? Not sure it really matters. Again, I do not think it matters to my daily life, and that is why I am cynical.Go Beavers said:
I could probably list several examples to counter the cynical apathy, but ask a kid whose dad got killed in Iraq if it matters who wins.Get_Right said:
What skin is that? Do you really think that what happens in Washington impacts your daily life? If your are poor then yes. If you are rich then yes. If in the middle then nothing changes. No matter who wins. I vote as an exercise of democracy, not because I think one candidate is really going to make a difference in my life. That is why I have no skin in the game. It really will not affect my life one way or another. Read Federalist Paper No. 10. The government is run by factions, and I am not in a faction. Scary how accurate that is.Johnny Abruzzo said:
I also found that an odd thing to say.Merkin Baller said:
I hate to break it to you, but if you live in America, you have skin in the game.Get_Right said:You do not see the brains behind the operation. Just saying and I have no skin in this game, just objectively calling it like I see it.
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Isn’t your position that it doesn’t matter who wins?Get_Right said:mrussel1 said:
Your statements are getting foolish in the attempt to defend your position.Get_Right said:HughFreakingDillon said:
which could literally mean life or death for those without the means to travel out of state.Get_Right said:The Juggler said:
Tell that to to the millions of women who lost the right to choose as, essentially, a result of the 2016 election.Get_Right said:
What skin is that? Do you really think that what happens in Washington impacts your daily life? If your are poor then yes. If you are rich then yes. If in the middle then nothing changes. No matter who wins. I vote as an exercise of democracy, not because I think one candidate is really going to make a difference in my life. That is why I have no skin in the game. It really will not affect my life one way or another. Read Federalist Paper No. 10. The government is run by factions, and I am not in a faction. Scary how accurate that is.Johnny Abruzzo said:
I also found that an odd thing to say.Merkin Baller said:
I hate to break it to you, but if you live in America, you have skin in the game.Get_Right said:You do not see the brains behind the operation. Just saying and I have no skin in this game, just objectively calling it like I see it.
Just saying.
The greatest embarrassment of our country in the last 50 years. I give you that. But it is just politics and legal maneuvering. Women can still get the right to choose. Just not in certain states.
Fair. But the door is not closed. I will pay for any woman that needs a ride to New York (limit 10).
I do not have a position. And maybe that is the bigger problem.0 -
Go Beavers said:
Hmm…I think you missed the point I was making which is there is no Iraq war if Gore was elected.Get_Right said:
Apathetic no, cynical yes. And does it really matter to that kid? Will he get more benefits under one or the other? Will one or the other prevent his dad from going there in the first place? Not sure it really matters. Again, I do not think it matters to my daily life, and that is why I am cynical.Go Beavers said:
I could probably list several examples to counter the cynical apathy, but ask a kid whose dad got killed in Iraq if it matters who wins.Get_Right said:
What skin is that? Do you really think that what happens in Washington impacts your daily life? If your are poor then yes. If you are rich then yes. If in the middle then nothing changes. No matter who wins. I vote as an exercise of democracy, not because I think one candidate is really going to make a difference in my life. That is why I have no skin in the game. It really will not affect my life one way or another. Read Federalist Paper No. 10. The government is run by factions, and I am not in a faction. Scary how accurate that is.Johnny Abruzzo said:
I also found that an odd thing to say.Merkin Baller said:
I hate to break it to you, but if you live in America, you have skin in the game.Get_Right said:You do not see the brains behind the operation. Just saying and I have no skin in this game, just objectively calling it like I see it.
Just saying.
Not missed. And I don't want to offend any veterans. Thank you for your service. But did that war make any difference in your life? It is just politics and posturing. And yes there was violence and death that could have been avoided. And that is sad. But did it really impact your daily life?0 -
Get_Right said:Go Beavers said:
Hmm…I think you missed the point I was making which is there is no Iraq war if Gore was elected.Get_Right said:
Apathetic no, cynical yes. And does it really matter to that kid? Will he get more benefits under one or the other? Will one or the other prevent his dad from going there in the first place? Not sure it really matters. Again, I do not think it matters to my daily life, and that is why I am cynical.Go Beavers said:
I could probably list several examples to counter the cynical apathy, but ask a kid whose dad got killed in Iraq if it matters who wins.Get_Right said:
What skin is that? Do you really think that what happens in Washington impacts your daily life? If your are poor then yes. If you are rich then yes. If in the middle then nothing changes. No matter who wins. I vote as an exercise of democracy, not because I think one candidate is really going to make a difference in my life. That is why I have no skin in the game. It really will not affect my life one way or another. Read Federalist Paper No. 10. The government is run by factions, and I am not in a faction. Scary how accurate that is.Johnny Abruzzo said:
I also found that an odd thing to say.Merkin Baller said:
I hate to break it to you, but if you live in America, you have skin in the game.Get_Right said:You do not see the brains behind the operation. Just saying and I have no skin in this game, just objectively calling it like I see it.
Just saying.
Not missed. And I don't want to offend any veterans. Thank you for your service. But did that war make any difference in your life? It is just politics and posturing. And yes there was violence and death that could have been avoided. And that is sad. But did it really impact your daily life?
go volunteer for veterans services and ask that same question of those that were ordered to those locations.
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mickeyrat said:Get_Right said:Go Beavers said:
Hmm…I think you missed the point I was making which is there is no Iraq war if Gore was elected.Get_Right said:
Apathetic no, cynical yes. And does it really matter to that kid? Will he get more benefits under one or the other? Will one or the other prevent his dad from going there in the first place? Not sure it really matters. Again, I do not think it matters to my daily life, and that is why I am cynical.Go Beavers said:
I could probably list several examples to counter the cynical apathy, but ask a kid whose dad got killed in Iraq if it matters who wins.Get_Right said:
What skin is that? Do you really think that what happens in Washington impacts your daily life? If your are poor then yes. If you are rich then yes. If in the middle then nothing changes. No matter who wins. I vote as an exercise of democracy, not because I think one candidate is really going to make a difference in my life. That is why I have no skin in the game. It really will not affect my life one way or another. Read Federalist Paper No. 10. The government is run by factions, and I am not in a faction. Scary how accurate that is.Johnny Abruzzo said:
I also found that an odd thing to say.Merkin Baller said:
I hate to break it to you, but if you live in America, you have skin in the game.Get_Right said:You do not see the brains behind the operation. Just saying and I have no skin in this game, just objectively calling it like I see it.
Just saying.
Not missed. And I don't want to offend any veterans. Thank you for your service. But did that war make any difference in your life? It is just politics and posturing. And yes there was violence and death that could have been avoided. And that is sad. But did it really impact your daily life?
go volunteer for veterans services and ask that same question of those that were ordered to those locations.
I have a few friends that are vets and did tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. I actually have volunteered for veteran services although it has been many years since I did so. I might do it again, I think my kids could learn something from that experience. My respect and admiration for our vets is completely different from my political views. There is a big gap between the decisions made by the executive branch and boots on the ground. Unfortunately.0 -
think it affected the daily life of these guys referenced here.you should stop now._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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Friend I am not going to go there. I do not need a lesson on military service. I get it more than you know. I am not asking about the life of enlisted men and women and I am not casting any views on them.mickeyrat said:think it affected the daily life of these guys referenced here.you should stop now.0 -
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the problem here is your position being that the lives you KNOW get destroyed by decisions politicians make as "not affecting me". I'm Canadian and I care about this.Get_Right said:Go Beavers said:
Hmm…I think you missed the point I was making which is there is no Iraq war if Gore was elected.Get_Right said:
Apathetic no, cynical yes. And does it really matter to that kid? Will he get more benefits under one or the other? Will one or the other prevent his dad from going there in the first place? Not sure it really matters. Again, I do not think it matters to my daily life, and that is why I am cynical.Go Beavers said:
I could probably list several examples to counter the cynical apathy, but ask a kid whose dad got killed in Iraq if it matters who wins.Get_Right said:
What skin is that? Do you really think that what happens in Washington impacts your daily life? If your are poor then yes. If you are rich then yes. If in the middle then nothing changes. No matter who wins. I vote as an exercise of democracy, not because I think one candidate is really going to make a difference in my life. That is why I have no skin in the game. It really will not affect my life one way or another. Read Federalist Paper No. 10. The government is run by factions, and I am not in a faction. Scary how accurate that is.Johnny Abruzzo said:
I also found that an odd thing to say.Merkin Baller said:
I hate to break it to you, but if you live in America, you have skin in the game.Get_Right said:You do not see the brains behind the operation. Just saying and I have no skin in this game, just objectively calling it like I see it.
Just saying.
Not missed. And I don't want to offend any veterans. Thank you for your service. But did that war make any difference in your life? It is just politics and posturing. And yes there was violence and death that could have been avoided. And that is sad. But did it really impact your daily life?By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
So cast your vote and care not because it affects or doesn't affect you directly, but how it affects your fellow citizens.Get_Right said:
Friend I am not going to go there. I do not need a lesson on military service. I get it more than you know. I am not asking about the life of enlisted men and women and I am not casting any views on them.mickeyrat said:think it affected the daily life of these guys referenced here.you should stop now.Post edited by mrussel1 on0 -
Get_Right said:
Friend I am not going to go there. I do not need a lesson on military service. I get it more than you know. I am not asking about the life of enlisted men and women and I am not casting any views on them.mickeyrat said:think it affected the daily life of these guys referenced here.you should stop now.my read is you already went there..."Not missed. And I don't want to offend any veterans. Thank you for your service. But did that war make any difference in your life? "_____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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