The National Football League

Johnny Abruzzo said:

My sister's in Colorado. If they go to a Broncos game they use light rail or park & ride. Do they have that in Cleveland?

Also sounds like they want a dome. Guess all football will be indoors eventually. BOO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfTxOKmCL38

mrussel1 said:

Merkin Baller said:

mrussel1 said:

Wobbie said:

WTF? now, the browns want to move? I guess stadiums are now obsolete in 25 years.

Stadium seems fine to me,  but it's in a bad location,  pinned against the lake on I-90. Where they are looking is where the famous Ford  351C was built.  That plant closed a long time ago but the property is huge and sits right where 71, 480 and the Ohio Turnpike come together.  10 minutes from where I grew up.  Would have been great to see games that close. 

I can only imagine what a nightmare the flats must be on game day. 

The Flats are a mile away so that is a little bit of the problem.  But mostly because Haslam can't monetize those bars.  There are no bars next to the stadium, so the muni-lot is just a shit show of drunken madness.  What Haslam really wants to do is what Leonis was trying to do in Alexandria with the Wizards and Capitals.  He wants to build the stadium and then bars and restaurants on his property.  And that Ford plant area is plenty big.  It's fucking huge.  So it would be a huge economic boom for him personally.  But also for Brook Park/Berea area which is pretty run down because the plant closed.  While I don't love taking money out of the city, the city is part of the county.  It would be good in the long run I think.  

Poncier said:

Merkin Baller said:

mrussel1 said:

Merkin Baller said:

mrussel1 said:

Wobbie said:

WTF? now, the browns want to move? I guess stadiums are now obsolete in 25 years.

Stadium seems fine to me,  but it's in a bad location,  pinned against the lake on I-90. Where they are looking is where the famous Ford  351C was built.  That plant closed a long time ago but the property is huge and sits right where 71, 480 and the Ohio Turnpike come together.  10 minutes from where I grew up.  Would have been great to see games that close. 

I can only imagine what a nightmare the flats must be on game day. 

The Flats are a mile away so that is a little bit of the problem.  But mostly because Haslam can't monetize those bars.  There are no bars next to the stadium, so the muni-lot is just a shit show of drunken madness.  What Haslam really wants to do is what Leonis was trying to do in Alexandria with the Wizards and Capitals.  He wants to build the stadium and then bars and restaurants on his property.  And that Ford plant area is plenty big.  It's fucking huge.  So it would be a huge economic boom for him personally.  But also for Brook Park/Berea area which is pretty run down because the plant closed.  While I don't love taking money out of the city, the city is part of the county.  It would be good in the long run I think.  

Ah... I thought the area of the stadium was also considered the flats. 

I get it... Kraft has Patriot Place and it's pretty f'ing impressive... now all he needs is a winning football team which I don't see happening anytime soon. 

The winning starts in London over breakfast this Sunday.

Poncier said:

Merkin Baller said:

Poncier said:

Merkin Baller said:

mrussel1 said:

Merkin Baller said:

mrussel1 said:

Wobbie said:

WTF? now, the browns want to move? I guess stadiums are now obsolete in 25 years.

Stadium seems fine to me,  but it's in a bad location,  pinned against the lake on I-90. Where they are looking is where the famous Ford  351C was built.  That plant closed a long time ago but the property is huge and sits right where 71, 480 and the Ohio Turnpike come together.  10 minutes from where I grew up.  Would have been great to see games that close. 

I can only imagine what a nightmare the flats must be on game day. 

The Flats are a mile away so that is a little bit of the problem.  But mostly because Haslam can't monetize those bars.  There are no bars next to the stadium, so the muni-lot is just a shit show of drunken madness.  What Haslam really wants to do is what Leonis was trying to do in Alexandria with the Wizards and Capitals.  He wants to build the stadium and then bars and restaurants on his property.  And that Ford plant area is plenty big.  It's fucking huge.  So it would be a huge economic boom for him personally.  But also for Brook Park/Berea area which is pretty run down because the plant closed.  While I don't love taking money out of the city, the city is part of the county.  It would be good in the long run I think.  

Ah... I thought the area of the stadium was also considered the flats. 

I get it... Kraft has Patriot Place and it's pretty f'ing impressive... now all he needs is a winning football team which I don't see happening anytime soon. 

The winning starts in London over breakfast this Sunday.

I won't be holding my breath.

Jags are in disarray. This is one of the winnable games for the Pats.

mrussel1 said:

Poncier said:

Have you watched Jacksonville this season?

It's sort of inexplicable what happened to them.  

TD51045 said:

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2024/10/brook-park-browns-5-hurdles-that-stand-between-clevelands-home-team-and-an-exit-to-the-suburbs-analysis.html

The Haslam’s are really good at being buffoons. Hence, they also back J.D. Vance.

They are Bu$hleaguer-esque. 

Also, light rail connects the flats to the stadium. 

Most fans that attend games come from outside the county and don’t pay the sin-tax that goes to the stadium and subsidizes the Haslam’s money printing machine.

Let ‘em go.

Poncier said:

Merkin Baller said:

Poncier said:

Merkin Baller said:

Poncier said:

Merkin Baller said:

mrussel1 said:

Merkin Baller said:

mrussel1 said:

Wobbie said:

WTF? now, the browns want to move? I guess stadiums are now obsolete in 25 years.

Stadium seems fine to me,  but it's in a bad location,  pinned against the lake on I-90. Where they are looking is where the famous Ford  351C was built.  That plant closed a long time ago but the property is huge and sits right where 71, 480 and the Ohio Turnpike come together.  10 minutes from where I grew up.  Would have been great to see games that close. 

I can only imagine what a nightmare the flats must be on game day. 

The Flats are a mile away so that is a little bit of the problem.  But mostly because Haslam can't monetize those bars.  There are no bars next to the stadium, so the muni-lot is just a shit show of drunken madness.  What Haslam really wants to do is what Leonis was trying to do in Alexandria with the Wizards and Capitals.  He wants to build the stadium and then bars and restaurants on his property.  And that Ford plant area is plenty big.  It's fucking huge.  So it would be a huge economic boom for him personally.  But also for Brook Park/Berea area which is pretty run down because the plant closed.  While I don't love taking money out of the city, the city is part of the county.  It would be good in the long run I think.  

Ah... I thought the area of the stadium was also considered the flats. 

I get it... Kraft has Patriot Place and it's pretty f'ing impressive... now all he needs is a winning football team which I don't see happening anytime soon. 

The winning starts in London over breakfast this Sunday.

I won't be holding my breath.

Jags are in disarray. This is one of the winnable games for the Pats.

 but I have zero faith in this coaching staff. 

Friggin' Van Pelt and that enormous (and apparently empty) head 

Poncier said:

Merkin Baller said:

Poncier said:

Merkin Baller said:

Poncier said:

Merkin Baller said:

mrussel1 said:

Merkin Baller said:

mrussel1 said:

Wobbie said:

WTF? now, the browns want to move? I guess stadiums are now obsolete in 25 years.

Stadium seems fine to me,  but it's in a bad location,  pinned against the lake on I-90. Where they are looking is where the famous Ford  351C was built.  That plant closed a long time ago but the property is huge and sits right where 71, 480 and the Ohio Turnpike come together.  10 minutes from where I grew up.  Would have been great to see games that close. 

I can only imagine what a nightmare the flats must be on game day. 

The Flats are a mile away so that is a little bit of the problem.  But mostly because Haslam can't monetize those bars.  There are no bars next to the stadium, so the muni-lot is just a shit show of drunken madness.  What Haslam really wants to do is what Leonis was trying to do in Alexandria with the Wizards and Capitals.  He wants to build the stadium and then bars and restaurants on his property.  And that Ford plant area is plenty big.  It's fucking huge.  So it would be a huge economic boom for him personally.  But also for Brook Park/Berea area which is pretty run down because the plant closed.  While I don't love taking money out of the city, the city is part of the county.  It would be good in the long run I think.  

Ah... I thought the area of the stadium was also considered the flats. 

I get it... Kraft has Patriot Place and it's pretty f'ing impressive... now all he needs is a winning football team which I don't see happening anytime soon. 

The winning starts in London over breakfast this Sunday.

I won't be holding my breath.

Jags are in disarray. This is one of the winnable games for the Pats.

 but I have zero faith in this coaching staff. 

Friggin' Van Pelt and that enormous (and apparently empty) head calling run after run on first down. Let the kid throw the ball, especially in some non passing downs so the D can't tee off.