Happy 11th Lightning Bolt

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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,590
    Sirens is a blemish? 
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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    dwjmu84 said:
    The one blemish on PJ’s otherwise stellar career, in my opinion. 

    The only songs I can listen to 11 years removed from this record are MFS, LTRP, and Getaway. 

    3/12

    Oh well!

    Those first two are among the worst songs this band has ever come up with though...
  • dwjmu84
    dwjmu84 Posts: 408
    igotid88 said:
    Sirens is a blemish? 
    I wouldn’t say it’s a blemish necessarily. The record as a whole is, however.

    That said, I don’t mind sirens. It’s ok. Nothing noteworthy though. 
  • dwjmu84
    dwjmu84 Posts: 408
    PJNB said:
    dwjmu84 said:
    The one blemish on PJ’s otherwise stellar career, in my opinion. 

    The only songs I can listen to 11 years removed from this record are MFS, LTRP, and Getaway. 

    3/12

    Oh well!

    Those first two are among the worst songs this band has ever come up with though...
    To each their own, but I’d say future days is the consensus worst song on the album. Meanwhile, anecdotally, it seems MFS is widely thought of as one of the few quality tracks. 
  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,887
    I like the first two songs, and I like Future Days.

    The songs I like on Lightning Bolt are:

    Getaway
    Mind Your Manners
    Lightning Bolt
    Future Days
  • dwjmu84
    dwjmu84 Posts: 408
    Running is everything MYM wanted to be. 

    MYM is atrocious live to make matters worse. 
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,423
    edited April 2024
    MYM is quite great. And quite great live.
    Sirens is an all time classic
    Too bad Getaway didn't "work" or turned up more live
    Future Days is banal, like The End on the former album
    Lightning Bolt is banal, like Amongst the Waves on the former album
    Yellow Moon should be played more
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • iOnlyownMymind
    iOnlyownMymind Posts: 2,952
    Pendulum is the standout track on that album, easily. 
  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,051
    I will go on record saying I like Lightning Bolt. I especially like MYM, Infallible, Sirens, Lightning Bolt, Yellow Moon. I can listen to those over and over. 
  • silvo
    silvo Posts: 294
    Still regularly listen to My Fathers Son, Yellow Moon and Pendulum. Probably need to revisit the rest
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    Lighting bolt is amazing live.  Sirens is a classic.  I love yellow moon, sounds like old school pj to me.  Pendulum has definitely grown on me over the years.  The rest of the album is forgettable.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 Posts: 10,802
    Its my least favorite album, but i like most of it
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,423
    iOnlyownMymind said:
    Pendulum is the standout track on that album, easily. 
    Yeah. How could I forget. The whole album should have been soaked in that mood! Great stuff
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • kramerica4
    kramerica4 Posts: 284
    With PENDULUM, it has one of the greatest Pearl Jam tracks ever on the tracklist.
    The atmosphere of this song is so intense!
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,423
    Has there ever been a more "Save it for Lost Dogs 2" song than Let the Records Play
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • kramerica4
    kramerica4 Posts: 284
    There are some great tracks on this record for sure.
    Pendulum stands out of course, but there also are Getaway, Sirens (it sadly suffers from the production), Infallible and Yellow Moon.
    Plus, there is no song I want to skip like Gigaton has with Buckle Up.
    So Lightning Bolt is still a fun ride all these years later.
  • Abe Froman
    Abe Froman Posts: 5,378
    LB has the most songs of any PJ album that didn't quite hit like previous records. Still has a lot of good tunes though. 

    Pendulum is a PJ classic for me. 
    MYM, Getaway, LB and Yellow Moon are all cool songs as well. 
    SBM was a weird choice and just didn’t work IMO. Still not as bad as Buckle Up though. 
  • marumaruko
    marumaruko Posts: 409
    Lightning Bolt in San Diego in 2022 was amazing. One of their best newer songs. 
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  • pledgeagrievance
    pledgeagrievance Posts: 2,874
    Getaway, MYM, Infallible, Pendulum, Yellow Moon, Swallowed Whole are still in rotation for me. The rest are meh. LTRP is my least fav song in their catalogue 
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,153
    Happy Birthday!
  • deb1211
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,590
    https://youtu.be/J9TpYgOYC48?si=NlPIaQLUV59R37dn
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  • wnh1977
    wnh1977 Iowa Posts: 650
    I think Lightning Bolt would benefit from subtraction.  Get rid of "Let the Records Play" and "Sleeping by Myself"... plus get rid of the opening and closing piano (played by Brendan O'Brien) on "Future Days".  That doesn't automatically make "Future Days" one of their top closers, but it improves it a bit.  It's now a 10-song, 39 or 40 minute album at that point (Backspacer was 11 songs, 37 minutes).  I might shuffle the order on "side 2" a bit after the 2 omissions, but I think this makes it a much, much better album.  

    "Let the Records Play" and "Sleeping by Myself" just kill the album.  I should've been brought in with these suggestions.  Big miss by the band for not reaching out to me.

    Side 1
    Getaway
    Mind Your Manners
    My Father's Son
    Sirens
    Lightning Bolt

    Side 2
    Pendulum (used as a concert opener a lot... would work great as Side 2 opener)
    Swallowed Whole
    Infallible
    Yellow Moon
    Future Days (minus piano)

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    2006: 5/16, 5/17, 6/26, 6/27
    2007: 8/5
    2009: 8/23, 8/24
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    2016: 4/16, 8/20, 8/22
    2018: 8/18, 8/20, 9/2
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    2023: 8/31, 9/2, 9/5
    2024: 5/18, 6/29
  • T-Bone 82
    T-Bone 82 Posts: 421
    wnh1977 said:
    I think Lightning Bolt would benefit from subtraction.  Get rid of "Let the Records Play" and "Sleeping by Myself"... plus get rid of the opening and closing piano (played by Brendan O'Brien) on "Future Days".  That doesn't automatically make "Future Days" one of their top closers, but it improves it a bit.  It's now a 10-song, 39 or 40 minute album at that point (Backspacer was 11 songs, 37 minutes).  I might shuffle the order on "side 2" a bit after the 2 omissions, but I think this makes it a much, much better album.  

    "Let the Records Play" and "Sleeping by Myself" just kill the album.  I should've been brought in with these suggestions.  Big miss by the band for not reaching out to me.

    Side 1
    Getaway
    Mind Your Manners
    My Father's Son
    Sirens
    Lightning Bolt

    Side 2
    Pendulum (used as a concert opener a lot... would work great as Side 2 opener)
    Swallowed Whole
    Infallible
    Yellow Moon
    Future Days (minus piano)

    I agree strongly with this minus the removal of the piano on Future Days. I like the intro and outro piano. 

    I always felt like LB was 2 different records in 1. The first half is fantastic and then it really drops off, minus Future Days as a closer. I would re-do LB as a 6 song EP with the following order:

    1. Getaway
    2. MYM
    3. Father's Son
    4. Lightning Bolt
    5. Sirens
    6. Future Days
    "Darkness comes in waves, tell me, why invite it to stay?"
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,590
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  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,153
    So good!

    https://youtu.be/kqoLAF6gY2E
  • Jayfesuk
    Jayfesuk Posts: 138
    ⬆️I was very happy to hear Yellow Moon in Hamilton on September 6 2022.
  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,051
    Jayfesuk said:
    ⬆️I was very happy to hear Yellow Moon in Hamilton on September 6 2022.
    Me too. I love that song.

  • Loujoe
    Loujoe Posts: 11,683
    Record has intentional awkwardness that works for me 
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,153
    Jayfesuk said:
    ⬆️I was very happy to hear Yellow Moon in Hamilton on September 6 2022.

    Same. Love Yellow Moon. And that show was amazing! My 2nd Pearl Jam Hamilton show.

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