12 VARIANTS FOR THE 12TH PEARL JAM ALBUM

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  • nicky-p38
    nicky-p38 Posts: 421
    wwsuicide said:
    ISO Boston and the 2 Internationals.  Held off on this project until 10C started selling.  Guess I need to finish em now!
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  • Vedd Hedd
    Vedd Hedd Posts: 4,633
    Loujoe said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    lexicondevil said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    So, I was listening to these variants using my tt and a newer (2019) Onkyo amp I have, not very powerful, 20W speakers, etc.   The variants sounded muddy.  

    Then I got my new (vintage) Marantz Amp, and new 75W speakers, and holy cow, it opened up beautifully.  I still think the Clear and Black are the best, but all of the variants I have sounded really pretty good.   I wonder if just equipment is to blame for some of the sound. 
    Many times it's about your set up. I read complaints all of the time about different pressings sounding "bad", and then I play my copy and it sounds fine. That person could also not know how to properly set up their turntable.
    Indeed. Some of the variants still sound a bit muddy, but with the new setup, its hardly noticeable. 

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  • WhyNotSweden
    WhyNotSweden Sweden Posts: 4,308
    Vedd Hedd said:
    WhyNotSweden said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    So, I was listening to these variants using my tt and a newer (2019) Onkyo amp I have, not very powerful, 20W speakers, etc.   The variants sounded muddy.  

    Then I got my new (vintage) Marantz Amp, and new 75W speakers, and holy cow, it opened up beautifully.  I still think the Clear and Black are the best, but all of the variants I have sounded really pretty good.   I wonder if just equipment is to blame for some of the sound. 
    Where did you buy the clear and the black one? My guess is from 10C.   
    Correct 
    The three versions sold at 10C (Black, clear & red marble) are pressed at Furnace, only 10C had furnace pressed.  All other at pressed at GZ in Nashville or GZ in Czech (for the once sold in Europe). 
    -95, Stockholm (MirrorBall Tour)
    -00, Stockholm
    -07, Copenhagen
    -09, Berlin
    -10, Berlin
    -11, East Troy 1+2
    -12, Stockholm, Oslo, Copenhagen, EV London 2
    -13, London, Chicago
    -14, Amsterdam 1+2, Berlin, Stockholm, Oslo
    -16, TOTD San Francisco 1+2
    -17, EV Amsterdam 2+3
    -18, Amsterdam 1+2, London 1+(2), Barcelona, London 2
    -19, EV Brussels

  • LostRebel
    LostRebel Athens, Greece Posts: 266
    WhyNotSweden said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    WhyNotSweden said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    So, I was listening to these variants using my tt and a newer (2019) Onkyo amp I have, not very powerful, 20W speakers, etc.   The variants sounded muddy.  

    Then I got my new (vintage) Marantz Amp, and new 75W speakers, and holy cow, it opened up beautifully.  I still think the Clear and Black are the best, but all of the variants I have sounded really pretty good.   I wonder if just equipment is to blame for some of the sound. 
    Where did you buy the clear and the black one? My guess is from 10C.   
    Correct 
    The three versions sold at 10C (Black, clear & red marble) are pressed at Furnace, only 10C had furnace pressed.  All other at pressed at GZ in Nashville or GZ in Czech (for the once sold in Europe). 

    EU black and clear are pressed at Pallas. 
  • WhyNotSweden
    WhyNotSweden Sweden Posts: 4,308
    LostRebel said:
    WhyNotSweden said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    WhyNotSweden said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    So, I was listening to these variants using my tt and a newer (2019) Onkyo amp I have, not very powerful, 20W speakers, etc.   The variants sounded muddy.  

    Then I got my new (vintage) Marantz Amp, and new 75W speakers, and holy cow, it opened up beautifully.  I still think the Clear and Black are the best, but all of the variants I have sounded really pretty good.   I wonder if just equipment is to blame for some of the sound. 
    Where did you buy the clear and the black one? My guess is from 10C.   
    Correct 
    The three versions sold at 10C (Black, clear & red marble) are pressed at Furnace, only 10C had furnace pressed.  All other at pressed at GZ in Nashville or GZ in Czech (for the once sold in Europe). 

    EU black and clear are pressed at Pallas. 
    My clear bought from Universal in Germany has a Made in Czech sticker….
    https://pearljam.universal-music.de/p51-i0602465233483/pearl-jam/dark-matter/index.html


    -95, Stockholm (MirrorBall Tour)
    -00, Stockholm
    -07, Copenhagen
    -09, Berlin
    -10, Berlin
    -11, East Troy 1+2
    -12, Stockholm, Oslo, Copenhagen, EV London 2
    -13, London, Chicago
    -14, Amsterdam 1+2, Berlin, Stockholm, Oslo
    -16, TOTD San Francisco 1+2
    -17, EV Amsterdam 2+3
    -18, Amsterdam 1+2, London 1+(2), Barcelona, London 2
    -19, EV Brussels

  • LostRebel
    LostRebel Athens, Greece Posts: 266
    WhyNotSweden said:
    LostRebel said:
    WhyNotSweden said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    WhyNotSweden said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    So, I was listening to these variants using my tt and a newer (2019) Onkyo amp I have, not very powerful, 20W speakers, etc.   The variants sounded muddy.  

    Then I got my new (vintage) Marantz Amp, and new 75W speakers, and holy cow, it opened up beautifully.  I still think the Clear and Black are the best, but all of the variants I have sounded really pretty good.   I wonder if just equipment is to blame for some of the sound. 
    Where did you buy the clear and the black one? My guess is from 10C.   
    Correct 
    The three versions sold at 10C (Black, clear & red marble) are pressed at Furnace, only 10C had furnace pressed.  All other at pressed at GZ in Nashville or GZ in Czech (for the once sold in Europe). 

    EU black and clear are pressed at Pallas. 
    My clear bought from Universal in Germany has a Made in Czech sticker….
    https://pearljam.universal-music.de/p51-i0602465233483/pearl-jam/dark-matter/index.html


    that's a logical assumption. But what about the record stamper matrix code?
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,279
    Yeah, I need to see the deadwax from a EU clear or black. 
  • kramerica4
    kramerica4 Posts: 284
    All 8 Dark Matter regional vinyl variants are up now at the 10-C shop.
  • WhyNotSweden
    WhyNotSweden Sweden Posts: 4,308
    kramerica4 said:
    All 8 Dark Matter regional vinyl variants are up now at the 10-C shop.
    The hunt for them was really fun but it would have been way easier just get them all from 10C 😆
    -95, Stockholm (MirrorBall Tour)
    -00, Stockholm
    -07, Copenhagen
    -09, Berlin
    -10, Berlin
    -11, East Troy 1+2
    -12, Stockholm, Oslo, Copenhagen, EV London 2
    -13, London, Chicago
    -14, Amsterdam 1+2, Berlin, Stockholm, Oslo
    -16, TOTD San Francisco 1+2
    -17, EV Amsterdam 2+3
    -18, Amsterdam 1+2, London 1+(2), Barcelona, London 2
    -19, EV Brussels

  • Imcoffeegirl
    Imcoffeegirl Posts: 384
    WhyNotSweden said:
    kramerica4 said:
    All 8 Dark Matter regional vinyl variants are up now at the 10-C shop.
    The hunt for them was really fun but it would have been way easier just get them all from 10C 😆
    "Fun"😆... My eye twitched a few times trying to get Philly. If only I knew I could have just waited for the shop here to get them in. Sigh. But glad they're here for anyone who wasn't able to get them from local shops. 
  • wwsuicide
    wwsuicide Posts: 1,402
    Hope to see the internationals get put up!
  • Loujoe
    Loujoe Posts: 12,045
    Imcoffeegirl said:
    WhyNotSweden said:
    kramerica4 said:
    All 8 Dark Matter regional vinyl variants are up now at the 10-C shop.
    The hunt for them was really fun but it would have been way easier just get them all from 10C 😆
    "Fun"😆... My eye twitched a few times trying to get Philly. If only I knew I could have just waited for the shop here to get them in. Sigh. But glad they're here for anyone who wasn't able to get them from local shops. 
    True. But if you waited they prob wouldn't show up here. Ya know...
  • al162928
    al162928 Italy Posts: 7
    some infos about the pressing quantities ?
  • Imcoffeegirl
    Imcoffeegirl Posts: 384
    Loujoe said:
    Imcoffeegirl said:
    WhyNotSweden said:
    kramerica4 said:
    All 8 Dark Matter regional vinyl variants are up now at the 10-C shop.
    The hunt for them was really fun but it would have been way easier just get them all from 10C 😆
    "Fun"😆... My eye twitched a few times trying to get Philly. If only I knew I could have just waited for the shop here to get them in. Sigh. But glad they're here for anyone who wasn't able to get them from local shops. 
    True. But if you waited they prob wouldn't show up here. Ya know...
    100%😆😆😆
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 98,322
    I am complete! B)


  • Kwynn
    Kwynn Posts: 12
    demetrios said:
    I am complete! B)


    Congrats!
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    2005 The Gorge Amphitheatre, WA
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 98,322
    Kwynn said:
    demetrios said:
    I am complete! B)


    Congrats!

    Thanks! Big help from Mr A! :)




  • timbo1972
    timbo1972 Posts: 326
    Full house of vinyl here, plus the cd’s and a download:) … wasn’t going to bother but once I picked up a couple from rsd and 10C…. Well… 
    14.10.2000 Houston, 09.09.2006 Marseilles, 11.09.2006 Paris, 18.06.2007 London, 17.08.2009 Manchester, 18.08.2009 London, 22.06.2010 Dublin, 23.06.2010 Belfast, 25.06.2010 London
  • Vitalogensia
    Vitalogensia Posts: 2,238
    Interesting looking at the shop filtered by best selling: Crystal Clear, New York, Chicago, Las Vegas, Seattle/PNW, Philadelphia, California, Boston, Missoula. 

  • LukinFan
    LukinFan Florida Posts: 29,128
    Here’s my New York variant 
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