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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    also:


    "EVERYTHING I DON'T LIKE IS SOROS BACKED!!!!"


    these cicadas are soros backed. thanks soros...

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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    when i was growing up my favorite baseball player was mark mcgwire. he hit 49 home runs as a rookie and then in 1998 he hit 70. then a few years later he was credibly accused of using peds. once i saw evidence i was like "fuck that guy" and never supported or defended him again. i also liked lance armstrong until the ped accusations. then i was like "fuck that guy too".

    trump was arrested, tried, and convicted in a court of law on 34 felonies. his supporters are tripling down on supporting him and threatening violence and retribution. clearly, we are not the same.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    when i was growing up my favorite baseball player was mark mcgwire. he hit 49 home runs as a rookie and then in 1998 he hit 70. then a few years later he was credibly accused of using peds. once i saw evidence i was like "fuck that guy" and never supported or defended him again. i also liked lance armstrong until the ped accusations. then i was like "fuck that guy too".

    trump was arrested, tried, and convicted in a court of law on 34 felonies. his supporters are tripling down on supporting him and threatening violence and retribution. clearly, we are not the same.
    You weren’t in a sports cult. You also have a functioning prefrontal cortex. 

    They can’t even spell prefrontal cortex. 
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  • shecky
    shecky San Francisco Posts: 2,683

    Trump conviction will kick off 'war of weaponization' of US justice system, warns Alan Dershowitz

    The former president was found guilty on all 34 charges in NY criminal trial

    By Madeline Coggins FOXBusiness
    Harvard Law professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz said Friday that a Manhattan jury "failed" after the conviction of former President Trump on 34 charges of falsifying business records.

    "My big disappointment is with the jury. Juries are supposed to be a check and balance on the excesses of prosecutors and judges. This jury failed its role of checking and balancing these excesses," Dershowitz said Friday on "Mornings with Maria." 

    A New York jury found former Trump guilty of 34 felony counts of falsifying business brought against him by Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg in a historic trial. Trump is now the first U.S. president to be convicted of a crime, and reactions are pouring in.

    Dershowitz labeled the decision the "beginning of a war of weaponization of the criminal justice system." He also heavily scrutinized the 12-person jury, noting many were likely non-Trump voters.

    "They were hand-picked by the judge and by the prosecutor to be anti-Trump. These were ‘get Trump’ jurors," he explained. 

    "These were jurors who voted between 85% and 90% not to allow Trump to be president, and they will do anything to prevent him from being president. And so their vote was the second vote on November against him being president. It wasn't a vote on the facts of the law of the case."

    Prosecutors needed to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Trump falsified those records to conceal a $130,000 payment to Stormy Daniels, a pornographic performer, in the lead-up to the 2016 election to silence her about an alleged affair with Trump in 2006.

    During the final stages of the trial on Tuesday, Prosecutor Joshua Steinglass delivered his closing argument for more than five hours, saying the prosecution has presented "powerful" evidence in their case against Trump. 

    Steinglass said Trump’s intent to defraud "could not be any clearer," arguing that it would have been far easier for him to pay Daniels directly. Instead, the prosecutor said, he concocted an elaborate scheme and everything he and his cohorts did was "cloaked in lies."

    Dershowitz joined a host of other legal scholars in criticizing the evidence brought forth against Trump and the law pertaining to the charges.

    "The facts of the law of the case here are an absolute joke," he reasoned. "This was essentially a directed verdict of guilt by the judge, by giving them the multiple-choice defense."

    "As soon as Bragg indicted, we knew there was going to be a conviction. It was a foregone conclusion. So yesterday's result is not news. It was just the end result of a completely predictable injustice that was engineered from the very beginning by a politician who had campaigned on the promise to get Trump."

    With the trial taking place in a deep-blue city and state, Dershowitz also noted the jury may have been influenced by outside social and political pressures. 

    "Every judge understands that if you're perceived as doing anything in favor of Trump, in a city like New York, particularly in Manhattan, your life is over. And every juror understood that. Every judge understood that," he told host Maria Bartiromo. 

    Each of the 34 counts carries a maximum prison sentence of four years. In total, Trump faces a maximum sentence of 136 years. It is expected that former President Trump will appeal the ruling, but Dershowitz fears "the appellate judges will fall into the same 'get Trump' trap and we'll see no checks and balance on our system of rule of law."

    The former president's sentencing is scheduled for July 11, just four days before the start of the Republican National Convention, where he is expected to be formally nominated as the 2024 Republican presidential nominee.

    "This is so dangerous to all Americans. Today it's get Trump. Tomorrow, it's get you. Tomorrow, it's get me. Tomorrow, it's get your loved one," he said.

    "The American system has been weaponized against political enemies, and that is a great loss for all Americans."

    Fox News' Brooke Singman contributed to this report.

  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,104
    shecky said:

    Trump conviction will kick off 'war of weaponization' of US justice system, warns Alan Dershowitz

    The former president was found guilty on all 34 charges in NY criminal trial

    By Madeline Coggins FOXBusiness
    Harvard Law professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz said Friday that a Manhattan jury "failed" after the conviction of former President Trump on 34 charges of falsifying business records.

    "My big disappointment is with the jury. Juries are supposed to be a check and balance on the excesses of prosecutors and judges. This jury failed its role of checking and balancing these excesses," Dershowitz said Friday on "Mornings with Maria." 

    A New York jury found former Trump guilty of 34 felony counts of falsifying business brought against him by Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg in a historic trial. Trump is now the first U.S. president to be convicted of a crime, and reactions are pouring in.

    Dershowitz labeled the decision the "beginning of a war of weaponization of the criminal justice system." He also heavily scrutinized the 12-person jury, noting many were likely non-Trump voters.

    "They were hand-picked by the judge and by the prosecutor to be anti-Trump. These were ‘get Trump’ jurors," he explained. 

    "These were jurors who voted between 85% and 90% not to allow Trump to be president, and they will do anything to prevent him from being president. And so their vote was the second vote on November against him being president. It wasn't a vote on the facts of the law of the case."

    Prosecutors needed to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Trump falsified those records to conceal a $130,000 payment to Stormy Daniels, a pornographic performer, in the lead-up to the 2016 election to silence her about an alleged affair with Trump in 2006.

    During the final stages of the trial on Tuesday, Prosecutor Joshua Steinglass delivered his closing argument for more than five hours, saying the prosecution has presented "powerful" evidence in their case against Trump. 

    Steinglass said Trump’s intent to defraud "could not be any clearer," arguing that it would have been far easier for him to pay Daniels directly. Instead, the prosecutor said, he concocted an elaborate scheme and everything he and his cohorts did was "cloaked in lies."

    Dershowitz joined a host of other legal scholars in criticizing the evidence brought forth against Trump and the law pertaining to the charges.

    "The facts of the law of the case here are an absolute joke," he reasoned. "This was essentially a directed verdict of guilt by the judge, by giving them the multiple-choice defense."

    "As soon as Bragg indicted, we knew there was going to be a conviction. It was a foregone conclusion. So yesterday's result is not news. It was just the end result of a completely predictable injustice that was engineered from the very beginning by a politician who had campaigned on the promise to get Trump."

    With the trial taking place in a deep-blue city and state, Dershowitz also noted the jury may have been influenced by outside social and political pressures. 

    "Every judge understands that if you're perceived as doing anything in favor of Trump, in a city like New York, particularly in Manhattan, your life is over. And every juror understood that. Every judge understood that," he told host Maria Bartiromo. 

    Each of the 34 counts carries a maximum prison sentence of four years. In total, Trump faces a maximum sentence of 136 years. It is expected that former President Trump will appeal the ruling, but Dershowitz fears "the appellate judges will fall into the same 'get Trump' trap and we'll see no checks and balance on our system of rule of law."

    The former president's sentencing is scheduled for July 11, just four days before the start of the Republican National Convention, where he is expected to be formally nominated as the 2024 Republican presidential nominee.

    "This is so dangerous to all Americans. Today it's get Trump. Tomorrow, it's get you. Tomorrow, it's get me. Tomorrow, it's get your loved one," he said.

    "The American system has been weaponized against political enemies, and that is a great loss for all Americans."

    Fox News' Brooke Singman contributed to this report.

    OJ didn’t do it.

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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Jeez Al, define “the ‘Murican system,” will you please? The Nantucket, or is it Martha’s Vineyard, summer social season got you down? Fucking clown.
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  • shecky
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    Biden urges respect for legal system after Trump conviction while publicly flouting SCOTUS rulings

    Biden has said the Supreme Court could not 'stop' him from canceling student debt, and insisted justices made a 'mistake' in overturning Roe v. Wade

    Published June 1, 2024 12:25pm EDT

    President Biden said on Friday that the justice system "should be respected" and that it was "reckless" for former President Donald Trump to claim that the verdict in his New York trial was "rigged," just days after he told his supporters the Supreme Court could not "stop" him from carrying out his agenda.

    "It's reckless, it's dangerous, it's irresponsible for anyone to say this was rigged just because they don't like the verdict," Biden said in response to the former president's remarks about the NY v. Trump verdict, which found Trump guilty Thursday on all 34 counts of falsifying business records related to the hush money payment to adult film actress Stormy Daniels in the lead up to the 2016 presidential election.

    "Our justice system has endured for nearly 250 years, and it literally is the cornerstone of America. Our justice system, that justice should be respected. And we should never allow anyone to tear it down. It's as simple as that," Biden added.

    Biden's remarks came just two days after he bragged to his supporters at a rally in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, that the Supreme Court ruling his student debt relief plan was unconstitutional did not "stop" him from canceling student loans.

    "The Supreme Court blocked me from relieving student debt, but they didn’t stop me," Biden said Wednesday from Girard College.

    Biden, like several other Democrat and Republican presidents throughout history, has taken aim at the Supreme Court for a number of rulings they have made during his tenure in the White House.

    During his State of the Union address in March, Biden took direct aim at the justices and insisted they had underestimated the "electoral and political power" of women in their decision to overturn Roe v. Wade. During an interview with MSNBC about his remarks directed at the justices, Biden said, "Look, I think they made a wrong decision, think they read the Constitution wrong, I think they made a mistake."

    Biden made similar comments on how the high court's ruling "didn't stop" him from canceling student loans in February while speaking at the Julian Dixon Library in Culver City, California.

    "Early in my term, I announced a major plan to provide millions of working families with debt relief for their college student debt," Biden said at the time. "Tens of millions of people in debt were literally about to be canceled in debts. But my MAGA Republican friends in the Congress, elected officials and special interests stepped in and sued us. And the Supreme Court blocked it. But that didn’t stop me."

    Last June, the Supreme Court ruled in a 6-3 decision that federal law does not allow Biden's Secretary of Education to cancel more than $430 billion in student loan debt. Biden promised at the time that his administration would continue to push for his student debt relief plan.

    Shortly after the court's ruling, Biden said: "I think the court misinterpreted the Constitution."

    Earlier this year, Biden announced the Savings on Valuable Education (SAVE) plan that cancels debt for enrolled borrowers who have been in repayment for at least 10 years and hold $12,000 or less in student loan debt. Those with larger debts will receive relief after an additional year of payments for every additional $1,000 they borrowed.

    In a statement to Fox News Digital, Biden campaign spokesperson James Singer said: "Expressing disagreement with a Supreme Court decision – as all Presidents do – is not the same as attacking the rule of law and undermining our judicial system."

    Following the verdict in Trump's trial, Biden took to social media on Friday to claim, "No one is above the law."

    He has also used Trump's remarks to raise funds for his re-election campaign, claiming in another post on X that Trump "questioned our judicial system."

    "Donald Trump is threatening our democracy. First, he questioned our election system. Then, he questioned our judicial system," Biden wrote Friday.

    Biden said Friday that Trump, who is the first president to be convicted of a felony, will "be given the opportunity, as he should, to appeal" the conviction.

    Fox News' Lindsay Kornick contributed to this report.

  • Halifax2TheMax
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    shecky said:

    Biden urges respect for legal system after Trump conviction while publicly flouting SCOTUS rulings

    Biden has said the Supreme Court could not 'stop' him from canceling student debt, and insisted justices made a 'mistake' in overturning Roe v. Wade

    Published June 1, 2024 12:25pm EDT

    President Biden said on Friday that the justice system "should be respected" and that it was "reckless" for former President Donald Trump to claim that the verdict in his New York trial was "rigged," just days after he told his supporters the Supreme Court could not "stop" him from carrying out his agenda.

    "It's reckless, it's dangerous, it's irresponsible for anyone to say this was rigged just because they don't like the verdict," Biden said in response to the former president's remarks about the NY v. Trump verdict, which found Trump guilty Thursday on all 34 counts of falsifying business records related to the hush money payment to adult film actress Stormy Daniels in the lead up to the 2016 presidential election.

    "Our justice system has endured for nearly 250 years, and it literally is the cornerstone of America. Our justice system, that justice should be respected. And we should never allow anyone to tear it down. It's as simple as that," Biden added.

    Biden's remarks came just two days after he bragged to his supporters at a rally in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, that the Supreme Court ruling his student debt relief plan was unconstitutional did not "stop" him from canceling student loans.

    "The Supreme Court blocked me from relieving student debt, but they didn’t stop me," Biden said Wednesday from Girard College.

    Biden, like several other Democrat and Republican presidents throughout history, has taken aim at the Supreme Court for a number of rulings they have made during his tenure in the White House.

    During his State of the Union address in March, Biden took direct aim at the justices and insisted they had underestimated the "electoral and political power" of women in their decision to overturn Roe v. Wade. During an interview with MSNBC about his remarks directed at the justices, Biden said, "Look, I think they made a wrong decision, think they read the Constitution wrong, I think they made a mistake."

    Biden made similar comments on how the high court's ruling "didn't stop" him from canceling student loans in February while speaking at the Julian Dixon Library in Culver City, California.

    "Early in my term, I announced a major plan to provide millions of working families with debt relief for their college student debt," Biden said at the time. "Tens of millions of people in debt were literally about to be canceled in debts. But my MAGA Republican friends in the Congress, elected officials and special interests stepped in and sued us. And the Supreme Court blocked it. But that didn’t stop me."

    Last June, the Supreme Court ruled in a 6-3 decision that federal law does not allow Biden's Secretary of Education to cancel more than $430 billion in student loan debt. Biden promised at the time that his administration would continue to push for his student debt relief plan.

    Shortly after the court's ruling, Biden said: "I think the court misinterpreted the Constitution."

    Earlier this year, Biden announced the Savings on Valuable Education (SAVE) plan that cancels debt for enrolled borrowers who have been in repayment for at least 10 years and hold $12,000 or less in student loan debt. Those with larger debts will receive relief after an additional year of payments for every additional $1,000 they borrowed.

    In a statement to Fox News Digital, Biden campaign spokesperson James Singer said: "Expressing disagreement with a Supreme Court decision – as all Presidents do – is not the same as attacking the rule of law and undermining our judicial system."

    Following the verdict in Trump's trial, Biden took to social media on Friday to claim, "No one is above the law."

    He has also used Trump's remarks to raise funds for his re-election campaign, claiming in another post on X that Trump "questioned our judicial system."

    "Donald Trump is threatening our democracy. First, he questioned our election system. Then, he questioned our judicial system," Biden wrote Friday.

    Biden said Friday that Trump, who is the first president to be convicted of a felony, will "be given the opportunity, as he should, to appeal" the conviction.

    Fox News' Lindsay Kornick contributed to this report.

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  • mickeyrat
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    shecky said:

    Biden urges respect for legal system after Trump conviction while publicly flouting SCOTUS rulings

    Biden has said the Supreme Court could not 'stop' him from canceling student debt, and insisted justices made a 'mistake' in overturning Roe v. Wade

    Published June 1, 2024 12:25pm EDT

    President Biden said on Friday that the justice system "should be respected" and that it was "reckless" for former President Donald Trump to claim that the verdict in his New York trial was "rigged," just days after he told his supporters the Supreme Court could not "stop" him from carrying out his agenda.

    "It's reckless, it's dangerous, it's irresponsible for anyone to say this was rigged just because they don't like the verdict," Biden said in response to the former president's remarks about the NY v. Trump verdict, which found Trump guilty Thursday on all 34 counts of falsifying business records related to the hush money payment to adult film actress Stormy Daniels in the lead up to the 2016 presidential election.

    "Our justice system has endured for nearly 250 years, and it literally is the cornerstone of America. Our justice system, that justice should be respected. And we should never allow anyone to tear it down. It's as simple as that," Biden added.

    Biden's remarks came just two days after he bragged to his supporters at a rally in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, that the Supreme Court ruling his student debt relief plan was unconstitutional did not "stop" him from canceling student loans.

    "The Supreme Court blocked me from relieving student debt, but they didn’t stop me," Biden said Wednesday from Girard College.

    Biden, like several other Democrat and Republican presidents throughout history, has taken aim at the Supreme Court for a number of rulings they have made during his tenure in the White House.

    During his State of the Union address in March, Biden took direct aim at the justices and insisted they had underestimated the "electoral and political power" of women in their decision to overturn Roe v. Wade. During an interview with MSNBC about his remarks directed at the justices, Biden said, "Look, I think they made a wrong decision, think they read the Constitution wrong, I think they made a mistake."

    Biden made similar comments on how the high court's ruling "didn't stop" him from canceling student loans in February while speaking at the Julian Dixon Library in Culver City, California.

    "Early in my term, I announced a major plan to provide millions of working families with debt relief for their college student debt," Biden said at the time. "Tens of millions of people in debt were literally about to be canceled in debts. But my MAGA Republican friends in the Congress, elected officials and special interests stepped in and sued us. And the Supreme Court blocked it. But that didn’t stop me."

    Last June, the Supreme Court ruled in a 6-3 decision that federal law does not allow Biden's Secretary of Education to cancel more than $430 billion in student loan debt. Biden promised at the time that his administration would continue to push for his student debt relief plan.

    Shortly after the court's ruling, Biden said: "I think the court misinterpreted the Constitution."

    Earlier this year, Biden announced the Savings on Valuable Education (SAVE) plan that cancels debt for enrolled borrowers who have been in repayment for at least 10 years and hold $12,000 or less in student loan debt. Those with larger debts will receive relief after an additional year of payments for every additional $1,000 they borrowed.

    In a statement to Fox News Digital, Biden campaign spokesperson James Singer said: "Expressing disagreement with a Supreme Court decision – as all Presidents do – is not the same as attacking the rule of law and undermining our judicial system."

    Following the verdict in Trump's trial, Biden took to social media on Friday to claim, "No one is above the law."

    He has also used Trump's remarks to raise funds for his re-election campaign, claiming in another post on X that Trump "questioned our judicial system."

    "Donald Trump is threatening our democracy. First, he questioned our election system. Then, he questioned our judicial system," Biden wrote Friday.

    Biden said Friday that Trump, who is the first president to be convicted of a felony, will "be given the opportunity, as he should, to appeal" the conviction.

    Fox News' Lindsay Kornick contributed to this report.


    you know, the ruling was he couldnt cancel using the means/method before the court. hes found other mechanisms that do not warrant review
    OR the same folks who brought suit would have done so already... .
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,104
    mickeyrat said:

    And yet, folks are defending POOTWH. Lining up like lemmings. I miss the professor.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    shecky said:

    Trump conviction will kick off 'war of weaponization' of US justice system, warns Alan Dershowitz

    The former president was found guilty on all 34 charges in NY criminal trial

    By Madeline Coggins FOXBusiness
    Harvard Law professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz said Friday that a Manhattan jury "failed" after the conviction of former President Trump on 34 charges of falsifying business records.

    "My big disappointment is with the jury. Juries are supposed to be a check and balance on the excesses of prosecutors and judges. This jury failed its role of checking and balancing these excesses," Dershowitz said Friday on "Mornings with Maria." 

    A New York jury found former Trump guilty of 34 felony counts of falsifying business brought against him by Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg in a historic trial. Trump is now the first U.S. president to be convicted of a crime, and reactions are pouring in.

    Dershowitz labeled the decision the "beginning of a war of weaponization of the criminal justice system." He also heavily scrutinized the 12-person jury, noting many were likely non-Trump voters.

    "They were hand-picked by the judge and by the prosecutor to be anti-Trump. These were ‘get Trump’ jurors," he explained. 

    "These were jurors who voted between 85% and 90% not to allow Trump to be president, and they will do anything to prevent him from being president. And so their vote was the second vote on November against him being president. It wasn't a vote on the facts of the law of the case."

    Prosecutors needed to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Trump falsified those records to conceal a $130,000 payment to Stormy Daniels, a pornographic performer, in the lead-up to the 2016 election to silence her about an alleged affair with Trump in 2006.

    During the final stages of the trial on Tuesday, Prosecutor Joshua Steinglass delivered his closing argument for more than five hours, saying the prosecution has presented "powerful" evidence in their case against Trump. 

    Steinglass said Trump’s intent to defraud "could not be any clearer," arguing that it would have been far easier for him to pay Daniels directly. Instead, the prosecutor said, he concocted an elaborate scheme and everything he and his cohorts did was "cloaked in lies."

    Dershowitz joined a host of other legal scholars in criticizing the evidence brought forth against Trump and the law pertaining to the charges.

    "The facts of the law of the case here are an absolute joke," he reasoned. "This was essentially a directed verdict of guilt by the judge, by giving them the multiple-choice defense."

    "As soon as Bragg indicted, we knew there was going to be a conviction. It was a foregone conclusion. So yesterday's result is not news. It was just the end result of a completely predictable injustice that was engineered from the very beginning by a politician who had campaigned on the promise to get Trump."

    With the trial taking place in a deep-blue city and state, Dershowitz also noted the jury may have been influenced by outside social and political pressures. 

    "Every judge understands that if you're perceived as doing anything in favor of Trump, in a city like New York, particularly in Manhattan, your life is over. And every juror understood that. Every judge understood that," he told host Maria Bartiromo. 

    Each of the 34 counts carries a maximum prison sentence of four years. In total, Trump faces a maximum sentence of 136 years. It is expected that former President Trump will appeal the ruling, but Dershowitz fears "the appellate judges will fall into the same 'get Trump' trap and we'll see no checks and balance on our system of rule of law."

    The former president's sentencing is scheduled for July 11, just four days before the start of the Republican National Convention, where he is expected to be formally nominated as the 2024 Republican presidential nominee.

    "This is so dangerous to all Americans. Today it's get Trump. Tomorrow, it's get you. Tomorrow, it's get me. Tomorrow, it's get your loved one," he said.

    "The American system has been weaponized against political enemies, and that is a great loss for all Americans."

    Fox News' Brooke Singman contributed to this report.

    newsflash. nobody listens to dershowitz.

    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • lindamarie73
    lindamarie73 Posts: 491
    shecky said:

    Trump conviction will kick off 'war of weaponization' of US justice system, warns Alan Dershowitz

    The former president was found guilty on all 34 charges in NY criminal trial

    By Madeline Coggins FOXBusiness
    Harvard Law professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz said Friday that a Manhattan jury "failed" after the conviction of former President Trump on 34 charges of falsifying business records.

    "My big disappointment is with the jury. Juries are supposed to be a check and balance on the excesses of prosecutors and judges. This jury failed its role of checking and balancing these excesses," Dershowitz said Friday on "Mornings with Maria." 

    A New York jury found former Trump guilty of 34 felony counts of falsifying business brought against him by Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg in a historic trial. Trump is now the first U.S. president to be convicted of a crime, and reactions are pouring in.

    Dershowitz labeled the decision the "beginning of a war of weaponization of the criminal justice system." He also heavily scrutinized the 12-person jury, noting many were likely non-Trump voters.

    "They were hand-picked by the judge and by the prosecutor to be anti-Trump. These were ‘get Trump’ jurors," he explained. 

    "These were jurors who voted between 85% and 90% not to allow Trump to be president, and they will do anything to prevent him from being president. And so their vote was the second vote on November against him being president. It wasn't a vote on the facts of the law of the case."

    Prosecutors needed to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Trump falsified those records to conceal a $130,000 payment to Stormy Daniels, a pornographic performer, in the lead-up to the 2016 election to silence her about an alleged affair with Trump in 2006.

    During the final stages of the trial on Tuesday, Prosecutor Joshua Steinglass delivered his closing argument for more than five hours, saying the prosecution has presented "powerful" evidence in their case against Trump. 

    Steinglass said Trump’s intent to defraud "could not be any clearer," arguing that it would have been far easier for him to pay Daniels directly. Instead, the prosecutor said, he concocted an elaborate scheme and everything he and his cohorts did was "cloaked in lies."

    Dershowitz joined a host of other legal scholars in criticizing the evidence brought forth against Trump and the law pertaining to the charges.

    "The facts of the law of the case here are an absolute joke," he reasoned. "This was essentially a directed verdict of guilt by the judge, by giving them the multiple-choice defense."

    "As soon as Bragg indicted, we knew there was going to be a conviction. It was a foregone conclusion. So yesterday's result is not news. It was just the end result of a completely predictable injustice that was engineered from the very beginning by a politician who had campaigned on the promise to get Trump."

    With the trial taking place in a deep-blue city and state, Dershowitz also noted the jury may have been influenced by outside social and political pressures. 

    "Every judge understands that if you're perceived as doing anything in favor of Trump, in a city like New York, particularly in Manhattan, your life is over. And every juror understood that. Every judge understood that," he told host Maria Bartiromo. 

    Each of the 34 counts carries a maximum prison sentence of four years. In total, Trump faces a maximum sentence of 136 years. It is expected that former President Trump will appeal the ruling, but Dershowitz fears "the appellate judges will fall into the same 'get Trump' trap and we'll see no checks and balance on our system of rule of law."

    The former president's sentencing is scheduled for July 11, just four days before the start of the Republican National Convention, where he is expected to be formally nominated as the 2024 Republican presidential nominee.

    "This is so dangerous to all Americans. Today it's get Trump. Tomorrow, it's get you. Tomorrow, it's get me. Tomorrow, it's get your loved one," he said.

    "The American system has been weaponized against political enemies, and that is a great loss for all Americans."

    Fox News' Brooke Singman contributed to this report.

    newsflash. nobody listens to dershowitz.

    Especially the ones who are told what to think and do….How’s your 5th booster shot treating you? 
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    shecky said:

    Trump conviction will kick off 'war of weaponization' of US justice system, warns Alan Dershowitz

    The former president was found guilty on all 34 charges in NY criminal trial

    By Madeline Coggins FOXBusiness
    Harvard Law professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz said Friday that a Manhattan jury "failed" after the conviction of former President Trump on 34 charges of falsifying business records.

    "My big disappointment is with the jury. Juries are supposed to be a check and balance on the excesses of prosecutors and judges. This jury failed its role of checking and balancing these excesses," Dershowitz said Friday on "Mornings with Maria." 

    A New York jury found former Trump guilty of 34 felony counts of falsifying business brought against him by Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg in a historic trial. Trump is now the first U.S. president to be convicted of a crime, and reactions are pouring in.

    Dershowitz labeled the decision the "beginning of a war of weaponization of the criminal justice system." He also heavily scrutinized the 12-person jury, noting many were likely non-Trump voters.

    "They were hand-picked by the judge and by the prosecutor to be anti-Trump. These were ‘get Trump’ jurors," he explained. 

    "These were jurors who voted between 85% and 90% not to allow Trump to be president, and they will do anything to prevent him from being president. And so their vote was the second vote on November against him being president. It wasn't a vote on the facts of the law of the case."

    Prosecutors needed to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Trump falsified those records to conceal a $130,000 payment to Stormy Daniels, a pornographic performer, in the lead-up to the 2016 election to silence her about an alleged affair with Trump in 2006.

    During the final stages of the trial on Tuesday, Prosecutor Joshua Steinglass delivered his closing argument for more than five hours, saying the prosecution has presented "powerful" evidence in their case against Trump. 

    Steinglass said Trump’s intent to defraud "could not be any clearer," arguing that it would have been far easier for him to pay Daniels directly. Instead, the prosecutor said, he concocted an elaborate scheme and everything he and his cohorts did was "cloaked in lies."

    Dershowitz joined a host of other legal scholars in criticizing the evidence brought forth against Trump and the law pertaining to the charges.

    "The facts of the law of the case here are an absolute joke," he reasoned. "This was essentially a directed verdict of guilt by the judge, by giving them the multiple-choice defense."

    "As soon as Bragg indicted, we knew there was going to be a conviction. It was a foregone conclusion. So yesterday's result is not news. It was just the end result of a completely predictable injustice that was engineered from the very beginning by a politician who had campaigned on the promise to get Trump."

    With the trial taking place in a deep-blue city and state, Dershowitz also noted the jury may have been influenced by outside social and political pressures. 

    "Every judge understands that if you're perceived as doing anything in favor of Trump, in a city like New York, particularly in Manhattan, your life is over. And every juror understood that. Every judge understood that," he told host Maria Bartiromo. 

    Each of the 34 counts carries a maximum prison sentence of four years. In total, Trump faces a maximum sentence of 136 years. It is expected that former President Trump will appeal the ruling, but Dershowitz fears "the appellate judges will fall into the same 'get Trump' trap and we'll see no checks and balance on our system of rule of law."

    The former president's sentencing is scheduled for July 11, just four days before the start of the Republican National Convention, where he is expected to be formally nominated as the 2024 Republican presidential nominee.

    "This is so dangerous to all Americans. Today it's get Trump. Tomorrow, it's get you. Tomorrow, it's get me. Tomorrow, it's get your loved one," he said.

    "The American system has been weaponized against political enemies, and that is a great loss for all Americans."

    Fox News' Brooke Singman contributed to this report.

    newsflash. nobody listens to dershowitz.

    Especially the ones who are told what to think and do….How’s your 5th booster shot treating you?  i've only had one booster and i have still never had covid. thank you for your concern.

    also keep listening to dershowitz. MaHalO!
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    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • shecky
    shecky San Francisco Posts: 2,683

    Justice Department says Biden's classified docs interview transcript omitted repeat and filler words

    Even though the Justice Department stated that the transcript was altered, it still contains some repeat and filler words.

    By Madeleine Hubbard

    Published: June 2, 2024 12:18pm

    The Justice Department admitted in a federal court document that the transcript of President Joe Biden's interview with special counsel Robert Hur regarding his handling of classified documents omitted some repeated words and filler words such as "um." 

    The Justice Department has refused to turn over the audio tapes of Biden's interview to Congress, citing concerns about "deep fake" technology that could allow the audio to be altered and presented as authentic. 

    "Aside from minor inconsistencies (such as repeated words or the use of filler words such as 'um'), the audio recording of the interview accurately reflects the words spoken during the interview," the Justice Department said in a court filing Friday in response to a case filed by the conservative legal watchdog Judicial Watch, as well as the Heritage Foundation and a media coalition led by CNN.

    Even though the Justice Department states that the transcript has been altered, it still includes some repeated and filler words. For example, the transcript showed Biden said, "and, and" more than 20 times.

    "The transcript is not accurate and was changed in a way to help Biden," Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said. "There is nothing ordinary about this, and the transcript inaccuracy issues seem to help Biden’s political campaign needs." 

  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,367
    shecky said:

    Justice Department says Biden's classified docs interview transcript omitted repeat and filler words

    Even though the Justice Department stated that the transcript was altered, it still contains some repeat and filler words.

    By Madeleine Hubbard

    Published: June 2, 2024 12:18pm

    The Justice Department admitted in a federal court document that the transcript of President Joe Biden's interview with special counsel Robert Hur regarding his handling of classified documents omitted some repeated words and filler words such as "um." 

    The Justice Department has refused to turn over the audio tapes of Biden's interview to Congress, citing concerns about "deep fake" technology that could allow the audio to be altered and presented as authentic. 

    "Aside from minor inconsistencies (such as repeated words or the use of filler words such as 'um'), the audio recording of the interview accurately reflects the words spoken during the interview," the Justice Department said in a court filing Friday in response to a case filed by the conservative legal watchdog Judicial Watch, as well as the Heritage Foundation and a media coalition led by CNN.

    Even though the Justice Department states that the transcript has been altered, it still includes some repeated and filler words. For example, the transcript showed Biden said, "and, and" more than 20 times.

    "The transcript is not accurate and was changed in a way to help Biden," Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said. "There is nothing ordinary about this, and the transcript inaccuracy issues seem to help Biden’s political campaign needs." 

    You know, if he just had a creepy smile, that would be one thing. Having a creepy smile AND saying 'um'? Completely unpresidential.

    If only Biden was more presidential - y'know, demonstrate his family values by having an affair with a porn star, the way he's "for the people" by lowering taxes for the rich, his genuine empathy by throwing toilet paper at you if you get hit by a hurricane, and love of equality when he talks of the "shithole countries" of the world and their rapists and drug dealers. Also his humility - did you know he wipes his own ass on his gold toilet!? Unless he misses, in which case he enlists his daughter (the one he mentioned wanting to sleep with) to clean up after him. That last one is really the true sign of presidential behaviour - only the best presidents leave messes behind, blame everyone but themselves, and leave someone else to clean it up. 
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  • shecky
    shecky San Francisco Posts: 2,683

    DOJ claims it can't release Biden-Hur interview due to threat of AI deepfakes

    The DOJ admits it is already possible to fake Biden's voice with AI

    Published June 2, 2024 2:15pm EDT

    The Justice Department cannot release audio from President Biden's interview with Special Counsel Robert Hur due to the threat of potential deepfakes, the DOJ argued in a Friday court filing.

    The filing came as part of a legal challenge against Biden's efforts to exercise executive privilege over the recording to keep it from the public. The DOJ acknowledged in its Friday filing that there is already enough public audio available to create AI deepfakes of both Biden and Hur, but it said releasing the true recording would make it more difficult to disprove any false versions.

    "The passage of time and advancements in audio, artificial intelligence, and ‘deep fake’ technologies only amplify concerns about malicious manipulation of audio files. If the audio recording is released here, it is easy to foresee that it could be improperly altered, and that the altered file could be passed off as an authentic recording and widely distributed," the department wrote.

    Associate Deputy Attorney General Bradley Weinsheimer wrote in the filing that releasing the tape would "make it far more likely that malicious actors could pass off a deepfake as the authentic recording."

    Biden's administration is facing a myriad of efforts from conservative legal groups and House Republicans to force the release of the audio. The DOJ has already released a transcript of the interview, which revealed multiple embarrassing moments for the president.

    BIDEN, NOT SPECIAL COUNSEL HUR, BROUGHT UP SON'S DEATH IN QUESTIONING

    Biden met with Hur for about five hours last year, when he was grilled about his handling of the classified documents.

    Hur's report, released earlier this year, declared Biden to be a forgetful, but well-meaning elderly man. The report highlighted several instances where Biden could not recall key details about his life, including when he served as vice president and the year of his son Beau Biden's death.

    Biden was outraged at the report and subsequently got caught in a number of false statements regarding his interview. For instance, he claimed that Hur brought up the topic of Beau's death, despite the transcript showing that Biden had broached the topic.

    "President Biden is apparently afraid for the citizens of this country and everyone to hear those tapes," House Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La., said after Biden exerted privilege over the recording. "They obviously confirm what the special counsel has found, and would likely cause, I suppose, in his estimation, such alarm with the American people that the president is using all of his power to suppress their release."

    Some Republicans have speculated that the transcript of the interview may not line up with the audio, saying it may have been edited to prevent embarrassing Biden. Weinsheimer rejected those claims in Friday's filing, saying only minor adjustments were made to the transcript, such as removing repeated words and filler words.

    Anders Hagstrom is a reporter with Fox News Digital covering national politics and major breaking news events. Send tips to Anders.Hagstrom@Fox.com, or on Twitter: @Hagstrom_Anders.

  • shecky
    shecky San Francisco Posts: 2,683
    "If only Biden was more presidential - y'know, demonstrate his family values by having an affair with a porn star, the way he's "for the people" by lowering taxes for the rich, his genuine empathy by throwing toilet paper at you if you get hit by a hurricane, and love of equality when he talks of the "shithole countries" of the world and their rapists and drug dealers. Also his humility - did you know he wipes his own ass on his gold toilet!? Unless he misses, in which case he enlists his daughter (the one he mentioned wanting to sleep with) to clean up after him. That last one is really the true sign of presidential behaviour - only the best presidents leave messes behind, blame everyone but themselves, and leave someone else to clean it up."

    Claim:
    A diary authored by U.S. President Joe Biden's daughter, Ashley Biden, describes showers taken with her father when she was a child as "probably not appropriate."

    Note: On April 29, 2024, Snopes changed the rating of this fact check from "Unproven" to "True" based on testimony provided by Ashley Biden. In an April 8 letter to a New York judge requesting jail time for one of the two people convicted of stealing her diary, Biden wrote "I will forever have to deal with the fact that my personal journal can be viewed online." 

    Previous versions of this fact check noted "strong evidence" that the diary existed, but argued that no source had authenticated the contents of the pages published online, writing that "the authenticity of photographs purported to be from a diary is a separate question from the factual existence of a diary."

    An often cited page from that "leaked diary," which chronicled its author's addiction recovery in intimate detail, makes reference to sexual trauma and poses questions in search of an explanation for being "hyper-sexualized @ a young age." Along with mentions of not liking to visit a certain family's house, "being sexualized" with a female friend, and "having sex with friends @ a young age," the author noted taking "showers with my dad (probably not appropriate)." 


  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    What is all of this nonsense polluting the page? Did someone go crazy?
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,367
    mrussel1 said:
    What is all of this nonsense polluting the page? Did someone go crazy?
    Is it called 'going crazy' if that's just the way you are? Just a hypothetical.
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