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  • gotthebottle
    gotthebottle San Diego Posts: 3,883
    LA crowds generally suck... and I go to them all... compared to Philly... stop bugging people who sit. So many people in pit last night near me(and no I wasn't in the middle front with the usual GA frequent flyers) were casual fans. One guy says he hasn't seen them since 92
  • Loujoe
    Loujoe Posts: 12,168
    Some have to sit.

    Please consider that.
    Bye bye.

  • BK223722
    BK223722 Posts: 94
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    Sitting is for Bill Joel concerts. Get the hell up.
    I’m 6 months pregnant. Please come and tell me to my face to ‘get the hell up’, cause I’ll be there again tonight, and if I feel like sitting, you bet your arse I will be sitting. 
  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,548
    BK223722 said:
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    Sitting is for Bill Joel concerts. Get the hell up.
    I’m 6 months pregnant. Please come and tell me to my face to ‘get the hell up’, cause I’ll be there again tonight, and if I feel like sitting, you bet your arse I will be sitting. 
    Enjoy the show and congrats!
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  • bootleg
    bootleg Posts: 1,211
    BK223722 said:
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    Sitting is for Bill Joel concerts. Get the hell up.
    I’m 6 months pregnant. Please come and tell me to my face to ‘get the hell up’, cause I’ll be there again tonight, and if I feel like sitting, you bet your arse I will be sitting. 
    No ones talking about pregnant women or those with disabilities that make it difficult to stand.  Talking about whole sections of people.  These types of things tend to happen in groups because no one wants to be the only one standing in a section of people who all decided to sit.  Was at a Blues Traveler concert recently and the whole crowd sat the entire time.  The band was basically begging people to stand and the crowd just wouldn’t do it.  It felt awkward.
    Personally I don’t care how someone enjoys a show and I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone harassing someone to stand up.  It’s always the people sitting down that harass those who want to stand.   
  • aisleseats
    aisleseats Posts: 1,630
    bootleg said:
    BK223722 said:
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    Sitting is for Bill Joel concerts. Get the hell up.
    I’m 6 months pregnant. Please come and tell me to my face to ‘get the hell up’, cause I’ll be there again tonight, and if I feel like sitting, you bet your arse I will be sitting. 
    No ones talking about pregnant women or those with disabilities that make it difficult to stand.  Talking about whole sections of people.  These types of things tend to happen in groups because no one wants to be the only one standing in a section of people who all decided to sit.  Was at a Blues Traveler concert recently and the whole crowd sat the entire time.  The band was basically begging people to stand and the crowd just wouldn’t do it.  It felt awkward.
    Personally I don’t care how someone enjoys a show and I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone harassing someone to stand up.  It’s always the people sitting down that harass those who want to stand.   
    I was front row of my section in Nashville. And I was standing, while everyone else was sitting. Needless to say, they were none too happy with me.
  • Vedd Hedd
    Vedd Hedd Posts: 4,633
    I hardly ever sit down at a concert, unless the artist tells us to. Neil Young did that a few times if I remember correctly.  Maybe Ed solo as well?

    That said, I live in Chicago and have been to every Chicago show since 98. (Car accident in 95 prevented me from going to soldier field)

    I have been in some great chicago crowds and some really lame ones. Lame ones were in the 00's, maybe?

    Too many non-fans chatting in my ear the whole time. '23 were great crowds. Most of the wrigley shows were great crowds.

    I have no problem expressing a differing opinion. The only thing I have a problem with is someone continuously telling other people that their opinion is wrong. Especially when they are on a post-concert high, of "that was the greatest show ever!"  If someone tells me that, I am not going to argue with them that it probably wasnt. I am going to let them enjoy the thing that made them happy. And celebrate with them. Never understood the idea behind trying to harsh someone's mellow.

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  • opsopcopolis
    opsopcopolis Posts: 1,214
    BF25394 said:
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    Sitting is for Bill Joel concerts. Get the hell up.
    I'm all in on standing. This happens any time Wilco plays a seated venue. Half the crowd stands from the moment they take the stage, and people sitting down scream and yell. 
    I once saw Jeff Tweedy hilariously tell people they can’t ask others to sit down at a rock show 
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  • LizosaurusRex
    LizosaurusRex Bend, OR Posts: 53
    edited May 2024
    vito said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    I fail to see the problem with people in the bleachers sitting down
    Stay home!
    Edited: Never mind. Not worth it.
    Post edited by LizosaurusRex on
  • NEweather
    NEweather Posts: 555
    Loujoe said:
    Some have to sit.

    Please consider that.
    Bye bye.

            ^^^ ✓
  • meistereder
    meistereder Posts: 1,578
    BF25394 said:
    meistereder said:
    I have to confess that last night in front of me were two people, mid-40’s and somewhat out of shape, sitting periodically to take breaks. In hindsight I feel terrible for letting it happen in front of me. As our friend from Chicago points out, this would not have been tolerated at the two Wrigley Field shows I went to, where, indeed, less than 10 people were seated in the entire venue. 
    "Letting it happen"? "Wouldn't have been tolerated"? What, were you going to fight them? Have them ejected? Why do you care if someone else sits? As long as they're not telling you to sit, who cares? Maybe they have jobs where they're on their feet all day. Maybe they have bad backs or bad feet.

    I guarantee you that more than ten people out of more than 30,000 were seated at Wrigley Field.
    Well, you just taught me that I can’t assume people will recognize sarcasm anymore. I assure you, what I said was meant to be so obviously ridiculous that I thought anyone reading it would see that. But alas. 

    To be clear, I was reacting to the dude who doesn’t like anyone sitting. 
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  • vito
    vito Chicago Posts: 2,029
    meistereder said:
    BF25394 said:
    meistereder said:
    I have to confess that last night in front of me were two people, mid-40’s and somewhat out of shape, sitting periodically to take breaks. In hindsight I feel terrible for letting it happen in front of me. As our friend from Chicago points out, this would not have been tolerated at the two Wrigley Field shows I went to, where, indeed, less than 10 people were seated in the entire venue. 
    "Letting it happen"? "Wouldn't have been tolerated"? What, were you going to fight them? Have them ejected? Why do you care if someone else sits? As long as they're not telling you to sit, who cares? Maybe they have jobs where they're on their feet all day. Maybe they have bad backs or bad feet.

    I guarantee you that more than ten people out of more than 30,000 were seated at Wrigley Field.
    Well, you just taught me that I can’t assume people will recognize sarcasm anymore. I assure you, what I said was meant to be so obviously ridiculous that I thought anyone reading it would see that. But alas. 

    To be clear, I was reacting to the dude who doesn’t like anyone sitting. 
    No, not whole sections and if you read the thread I'm obviously not alone. 
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  • meistereder
    meistereder Posts: 1,578
    I think we can all agree that we like energetic crowds.  I personally stand, and I would rather be within a section where everyone stands and is into the show. But I think what other people are saying is that sometimes there are reasons for people to sit.  We are all getting older.  My wife sits for a while and stands when she accompanies me to a show. The guy with the disability in front of me sat the whole show. Life is just too short to get consumed with it. I have a much bigger issue with the rampant filming with bright screens everywhere, and sometimes even with the phone light pointing toward the stage. But even that, it ain’t going to stop, so I am not going to let it bother me too much. Cheers.
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  • ekwipt
    ekwipt Vancouver Posts: 1,095
    Doesn’t bother me if anyone sits, just don’t get upset at those who prefer to stand if you can’t see. 
  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    opsopcopolis said:
    BF25394 said:
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    Sitting is for Bill Joel concerts. Get the hell up.
    I'm all in on standing. This happens any time Wilco plays a seated venue. Half the crowd stands from the moment they take the stage, and people sitting down scream and yell. 
    I once saw Jeff Tweedy hilariously tell people they can’t ask others to sit down at a rock show 
    Jeff has a lot of fun with the whole sitting-versus-standing debate. He will usually be funny about it by pretending to be agnostic on the issue, but the subtext is definitely that he likes when people stand. "Don't postpone happiness" sums up his attitude about it.
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    meistereder said:
    BF25394 said:
    meistereder said:
    I have to confess that last night in front of me were two people, mid-40’s and somewhat out of shape, sitting periodically to take breaks. In hindsight I feel terrible for letting it happen in front of me. As our friend from Chicago points out, this would not have been tolerated at the two Wrigley Field shows I went to, where, indeed, less than 10 people were seated in the entire venue. 
    "Letting it happen"? "Wouldn't have been tolerated"? What, were you going to fight them? Have them ejected? Why do you care if someone else sits? As long as they're not telling you to sit, who cares? Maybe they have jobs where they're on their feet all day. Maybe they have bad backs or bad feet.

    I guarantee you that more than ten people out of more than 30,000 were seated at Wrigley Field.
    Well, you just taught me that I can’t assume people will recognize sarcasm anymore. I assure you, what I said was meant to be so obviously ridiculous that I thought anyone reading it would see that. But alas. 

    To be clear, I was reacting to the dude who doesn’t like anyone sitting. 
    I have to give you credit because irony is my native language, and that was an especially dry vintage you served up. Well-played. I'm glad we're on the same page.
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • meistereder
    meistereder Posts: 1,578
    BF25394 said:
    meistereder said:
    BF25394 said:
    meistereder said:
    I have to confess that last night in front of me were two people, mid-40’s and somewhat out of shape, sitting periodically to take breaks. In hindsight I feel terrible for letting it happen in front of me. As our friend from Chicago points out, this would not have been tolerated at the two Wrigley Field shows I went to, where, indeed, less than 10 people were seated in the entire venue. 
    "Letting it happen"? "Wouldn't have been tolerated"? What, were you going to fight them? Have them ejected? Why do you care if someone else sits? As long as they're not telling you to sit, who cares? Maybe they have jobs where they're on their feet all day. Maybe they have bad backs or bad feet.

    I guarantee you that more than ten people out of more than 30,000 were seated at Wrigley Field.
    Well, you just taught me that I can’t assume people will recognize sarcasm anymore. I assure you, what I said was meant to be so obviously ridiculous that I thought anyone reading it would see that. But alas. 

    To be clear, I was reacting to the dude who doesn’t like anyone sitting. 
    I have to give you credit because irony is my native language, and that was an especially dry vintage you served up. Well-played. I'm glad we're on the same page.
    Saul Goodman. I need to be more clear with my sarcasm, at least on message boards. That’s what the wink emoji is for I suppose. 
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  • vito
    vito Chicago Posts: 2,029
    BF25394 said:
    opsopcopolis said:
    BF25394 said:
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    Sitting is for Bill Joel concerts. Get the hell up.
    I'm all in on standing. This happens any time Wilco plays a seated venue. Half the crowd stands from the moment they take the stage, and people sitting down scream and yell. 
    I once saw Jeff Tweedy hilariously tell people they can’t ask others to sit down at a rock show 
    Jeff has a lot of fun with the whole sitting-versus-standing debate. He will usually be funny about it by pretending to be agnostic on the issue, but the subtext is definitely that he likes when people stand. "Don't postpone happiness" sums up his attitude about it.
    Ok, now tell me about a band I've seen 70x's in my own backyard...you know nothing about Jeff or Wilco!
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    ALLSTATE ARENA ROSEMONT 2000
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    TOLEDO SPORTS ARENA 2004
    AIR CANADA CENTRE TORONTO 2005
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    IWIRELESS CENTER MOLINE 2014
    XCEL ENERGY CENTER ST. PAUL 2014
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    BOSTON 2 Fenway Park 2018
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    Eddie Vedder Auditorium Theatre CHICAGO 2008

  • FlyBono24
    FlyBono24 Posts: 144
    meistereder said:
    I was in the building.  Truly an energetic and beautiful crowd. Sorry if that hurts anyone’s feelings. Be kind to each other. Can’t wait for London and Boston!
    It was!  Maybe some sections in the upper bowl might have been sitting...  I was on the Floor (Section H) and every single person in my section was standing up from beginning to end, headbanging and dancing.  Much to the dismay of my wife who is 5'4" and could hardly see
  • FlyBono24
    FlyBono24 Posts: 144
    pjl44 said:
    Saw Godsmack in an arena ages ago and Sully was yelling at a guy in the loge to stand up. Turns out he was in a wheelchair. Hand to God I witnessed that.
    I saw them last year and he berated people in the pit for standing and holding their phones up.  He said you don't have to mosh or get crazy or anything but he wants to see their faces, not just a sea of phones being held up.  I understand.

    Tool does it right, you can get removed if you bring out your phone.  They have signs everywhere saying you WILL be taken away if you take your phone out to record.  (I think they have some warnings first, I saw a guy in front of me get taken out, he missed a song, then they escorted him back a few minutes later)

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