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  • BIGDaddyWil
    BIGDaddyWil Michigan Posts: 3,080
    brianlux said:
    BIGDaddyWil said:
    brianlux said:
    BIGDaddyWil said:
    Here you go.........



    Wow!  Well, that explains why Dark Matter is unlistenable for me.
    I'm having trouble as well.  The vinyl just arrived today, I sure hope it's better!!!


    I hope so too, Wil.  If you get a chance, let me know what you think of the vinyl version.

    I listened to the black vinyl version last night.  Cymbal crashes sound smashed, but the hi-hats sound ok. I really didn't hear any improvement. Sorry, Brian.  My equipment is all vintage Pioneer gear from the late 1970's.  HPM-60 speakers, SX-950 receiver and PL-570 turntable with a fresh cartridge.
    Pine Knob Music Theatre - Jul 31, 1992 Crisler Arena - Mar 20, 1994
    Summerfest - Jul 09, 1995*Savage Hall - Sep 22, 1996The Palace of Auburn Hills-Aug 23, 1998 Breslin Center- Aug 18, 1998,The Palace of Auburn Hills-Oct 07, 2000 DTE Energy Theatre-Jun5,2003,DTE Energy Music Theatre - Jun 26, 2003Sports Arena - Oct 02, 2004 Van Andel Arena - May 19, 2006Palace of Auburn Hills-May 22, 2006 Quicken Loans Arena-May 09, 2010
    10-16-2014 Detroit
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,656
    BIGDaddyWil said:
    brianlux said:
    BIGDaddyWil said:
    brianlux said:
    BIGDaddyWil said:
    Here you go.........



    Wow!  Well, that explains why Dark Matter is unlistenable for me.
    I'm having trouble as well.  The vinyl just arrived today, I sure hope it's better!!!


    I hope so too, Wil.  If you get a chance, let me know what you think of the vinyl version.

    I listened to the black vinyl version last night.  Cymbal crashes sound smashed, but the hi-hats sound ok. I really didn't hear any improvement. Sorry, Brian.  My equipment is all vintage Pioneer gear from the late 1970's.  HPM-60 speakers, SX-950 receiver and PL-570 turntable with a fresh cartridge.

    Sorry to hear it.  I'm probably going to pass on the new LP anyway.  I'm glad a lot of people are happy with it, glad the band is still at it after all this time, but Dark Matter just doesn't do it for me enough at this point.

    Your gear must sound great!  That vintage Pioneer stuff is amazing and way better than a lot of stuff produced today.  Nice!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • BIGDaddyWil
    BIGDaddyWil Michigan Posts: 3,080
    Thanks Brian!
    Pine Knob Music Theatre - Jul 31, 1992 Crisler Arena - Mar 20, 1994
    Summerfest - Jul 09, 1995*Savage Hall - Sep 22, 1996The Palace of Auburn Hills-Aug 23, 1998 Breslin Center- Aug 18, 1998,The Palace of Auburn Hills-Oct 07, 2000 DTE Energy Theatre-Jun5,2003,DTE Energy Music Theatre - Jun 26, 2003Sports Arena - Oct 02, 2004 Van Andel Arena - May 19, 2006Palace of Auburn Hills-May 22, 2006 Quicken Loans Arena-May 09, 2010
    10-16-2014 Detroit
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,656
    BIGDaddyWil said:
    Thanks Brian!

    :plus_one:
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • BIGDaddyWil
    BIGDaddyWil Michigan Posts: 3,080
    Hey Brian,  I don't know if you have a streaming service.  I've found that the Dolby Atmos Mix on Amazon Music sounds decent through headphones.  At least I'm able to pick out the different instruments.  Drums still sound squished, but not as bad. Cheers!
    Pine Knob Music Theatre - Jul 31, 1992 Crisler Arena - Mar 20, 1994
    Summerfest - Jul 09, 1995*Savage Hall - Sep 22, 1996The Palace of Auburn Hills-Aug 23, 1998 Breslin Center- Aug 18, 1998,The Palace of Auburn Hills-Oct 07, 2000 DTE Energy Theatre-Jun5,2003,DTE Energy Music Theatre - Jun 26, 2003Sports Arena - Oct 02, 2004 Van Andel Arena - May 19, 2006Palace of Auburn Hills-May 22, 2006 Quicken Loans Arena-May 09, 2010
    10-16-2014 Detroit
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,656
    BIGDaddyWil said:
    Hey Brian,  I don't know if you have a streaming service.  I've found that the Dolby Atmos Mix on Amazon Music sounds decent through headphones.  At least I'm able to pick out the different instruments.  Drums still sound squished, but not as bad. Cheers!

    Thanks for the tip, Wil.  Unfortunately, we live in this little hinterlands- actually not far at all from Placerville, a good sized town, but we're located among some hills in such a way that we only have two choices for internet service- either expensive Star Link, or using my cell phone as a hot spot, and data here, though less than Star Link is also fairly expensive, thus limited.  Some one of these days I'm gonna have to have to a more civilized neighborhood!  :lol:     
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • BIGDaddyWil
    BIGDaddyWil Michigan Posts: 3,080
    Gotcha!  My sister's family just bought a place in Calistoga. A couple hours away.
    Pine Knob Music Theatre - Jul 31, 1992 Crisler Arena - Mar 20, 1994
    Summerfest - Jul 09, 1995*Savage Hall - Sep 22, 1996The Palace of Auburn Hills-Aug 23, 1998 Breslin Center- Aug 18, 1998,The Palace of Auburn Hills-Oct 07, 2000 DTE Energy Theatre-Jun5,2003,DTE Energy Music Theatre - Jun 26, 2003Sports Arena - Oct 02, 2004 Van Andel Arena - May 19, 2006Palace of Auburn Hills-May 22, 2006 Quicken Loans Arena-May 09, 2010
    10-16-2014 Detroit
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,656
    BIGDaddyWil said:
    Gotcha!  My sister's family just bought a place in Calistoga. A couple hours away.

    Sweet!  What a great little town. 
    I lived in Kenwood for a couple of years.  Good memories of that place!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,537
    BIGDaddyWil said:
    brianlux said:
    BIGDaddyWil said:
    brianlux said:
    BIGDaddyWil said:
    Here you go.........



    Wow!  Well, that explains why Dark Matter is unlistenable for me.
    I'm having trouble as well.  The vinyl just arrived today, I sure hope it's better!!!


    I hope so too, Wil.  If you get a chance, let me know what you think of the vinyl version.

    I listened to the black vinyl version last night.  Cymbal crashes sound smashed, but the hi-hats sound ok. I really didn't hear any improvement. Sorry, Brian.  My equipment is all vintage Pioneer gear from the late 1970's.  HPM-60 speakers, SX-950 receiver and PL-570 turntable with a fresh cartridge.
    I was listening to badmotorfinger the other day and  I thought Matt’s drum sound from that album is almost identical to what it is on Dark Matter. 
  • BIGDaddyWil
    BIGDaddyWil Michigan Posts: 3,080
    Go Beavers said:
    BIGDaddyWil said:
    brianlux said:
    BIGDaddyWil said:
    brianlux said:
    BIGDaddyWil said:
    Here you go.........



    Wow!  Well, that explains why Dark Matter is unlistenable for me.
    I'm having trouble as well.  The vinyl just arrived today, I sure hope it's better!!!


    I hope so too, Wil.  If you get a chance, let me know what you think of the vinyl version.

    I listened to the black vinyl version last night.  Cymbal crashes sound smashed, but the hi-hats sound ok. I really didn't hear any improvement. Sorry, Brian.  My equipment is all vintage Pioneer gear from the late 1970's.  HPM-60 speakers, SX-950 receiver and PL-570 turntable with a fresh cartridge.
    I was listening to badmotorfinger the other day and  I thought Matt’s drum sound from that album is almost identical to what it is on Dark Matter. 

    I, myself don't hear that on Badmotorfinger.  Don't get me wrong, it's still a little compressed.  Which pressing were you listening to?

    This is my go to pressing for Badmotorfinger:


    Pine Knob Music Theatre - Jul 31, 1992 Crisler Arena - Mar 20, 1994
    Summerfest - Jul 09, 1995*Savage Hall - Sep 22, 1996The Palace of Auburn Hills-Aug 23, 1998 Breslin Center- Aug 18, 1998,The Palace of Auburn Hills-Oct 07, 2000 DTE Energy Theatre-Jun5,2003,DTE Energy Music Theatre - Jun 26, 2003Sports Arena - Oct 02, 2004 Van Andel Arena - May 19, 2006Palace of Auburn Hills-May 22, 2006 Quicken Loans Arena-May 09, 2010
    10-16-2014 Detroit
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,537
    BIGDaddyWil said:
    Go Beavers said:
    BIGDaddyWil said:
    brianlux said:
    BIGDaddyWil said:
    brianlux said:
    BIGDaddyWil said:
    Here you go.........



    Wow!  Well, that explains why Dark Matter is unlistenable for me.
    I'm having trouble as well.  The vinyl just arrived today, I sure hope it's better!!!


    I hope so too, Wil.  If you get a chance, let me know what you think of the vinyl version.

    I listened to the black vinyl version last night.  Cymbal crashes sound smashed, but the hi-hats sound ok. I really didn't hear any improvement. Sorry, Brian.  My equipment is all vintage Pioneer gear from the late 1970's.  HPM-60 speakers, SX-950 receiver and PL-570 turntable with a fresh cartridge.
    I was listening to badmotorfinger the other day and  I thought Matt’s drum sound from that album is almost identical to what it is on Dark Matter. 

    I, myself don't hear that on Badmotorfinger.  Don't get me wrong, it's still a little compressed.  Which pressing were you listening to?

    This is my go to pressing for Badmotorfinger:


    I’m comparing the two just from copying the CD to itunes and into my phone going through beats ear buds. My badmotorfinger CD is an og from 1991. Dark Matter blu ray of course sounds different. I just thought it was interesting hearing similar lack of cymbal smash and the snare is pretty tight and subdued. 

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