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  • mickeyrat
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,217
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    2023

    The guy making the video is flabbergasted.  For good reason!  It's hard to believe anyone could be as bullhead and stupid as 45. 
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,217
    2023
    brianlux said:

    The guy making the video is flabbergasted.  For good reason!  It's hard to believe anyone could be as bullhead and stupid as 45. 
    he makes the point that i think most of us have been trying to make here for a while now.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,537
    2024
    meh. they just counter with "at least he can stay awake past 3pm" or "at least he knows where he is" or some stupid made up shit. 
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    2023
    Donald Trump is a horrible human.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/12/donald-trump-joe-biden-stutter-00146467

    Stuttering advocates have words for Donald Trump

    Trump’s ridiculing of Biden comes as advocates have built broader acceptance of speech impediments.

    Stuttering advocate Maya Chupkov speaks at a podium

    Stuttering advocate Maya Chupkov speaks at a press conference with California Assembly Speaker Robert Rivas. | Courtesy of Maya Chupkov

    By DUSTIN GARDINER

    03/12/2024 10:14 AM EDT

    Updated: 03/12/2024 11:07 AM EDT

    Former President Donald Trump drew laughter from supporters at a rally in Georgia over the weekend as he mocked President Joe Biden for his stutter.

    He also fired up a network of “proud stutterers” ready to put Trump on blast over his behavior.

    Among them is Maya Chupkov, a stuttering advocate and San Francisco-based podcast host who has her own speech impediment.

    Chupkov, who is also a proud stutterer, was flying home from a weekend trip to Los Angeles when her husband texted her a video clip of Trump. “I’m gonna bring the country tuh-tuh-tuh-together,’” the former president said as he parodied Biden’s State of the Union Speech on Saturday.

    “Just hearing the audience laugh took me back to the bullying days,” she said, recalling painful high school memories.

    Within hours, Chupkov and a network of stutterers around the country sprang into action. They sent a press release to major media outlets denouncing Trump and launched campaigns to urge stutterers to respond on social media and write letters to the editor.

    The response has been swift. Around the country, advocates have been giving media interviews and sharing emotional testimonials.

    “This time, we’re not going to stay silent,” said Chupkov, who wrote a comic book called “Proud Stutter” and hosts a podcast of the same name. Her nonprofit holds events around the country.

    Trump’s ridiculing of Biden comes as advocates have built broader acceptance of speech impediments. Chupkov said Biden’s visibility as president has helped and noted the headlines Biden made a few years ago when he met a boy with a stutter and offered his encouragement.

    The president has spoken openly about how coping with a stutter was one of his greatest challenges as a young person, and he still sometimes struggles with halting speech in his public appearances.

    He’s not the only public figure to embrace a speech challenge. California Assembly Speaker Robert Rivas, who also stutters, authored a bill last year to designate Stuttering Awareness Week in May and spoke at a Capitol press conference with Chupkov and other stutterers.

    “I still have my stutter,” Rivas said at the time. “But certainly, at the end of the day, that is who I am, and I am a better person now because of my stutter.”

    Chupkov said she worries that Trump’s behavior could “normalize” insults directed at people with speech impediments. She said many advocates are hopeful Trump’s mockery will inspire Biden to have an open conversation about stuttering, which advocates estimate affects 3 million people nationwide.

    “That would be really powerful, especially for young people. I just wish he could talk more about that,” she said. “It makes him more empathetic. It makes him a good listener.”

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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,385
    2023
    Donald Trump is a horrible human.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/12/donald-trump-joe-biden-stutter-00146467

    Stuttering advocates have words for Donald Trump

    Trump’s ridiculing of Biden comes as advocates have built broader acceptance of speech impediments.

    Stuttering advocate Maya Chupkov speaks at a podium

    Stuttering advocate Maya Chupkov speaks at a press conference with California Assembly Speaker Robert Rivas. | Courtesy of Maya Chupkov

    By DUSTIN GARDINER

    03/12/2024 10:14 AM EDT

    Updated: 03/12/2024 11:07 AM EDT

    Former President Donald Trump drew laughter from supporters at a rally in Georgia over the weekend as he mocked President Joe Biden for his stutter.

    He also fired up a network of “proud stutterers” ready to put Trump on blast over his behavior.

    Among them is Maya Chupkov, a stuttering advocate and San Francisco-based podcast host who has her own speech impediment.

    Chupkov, who is also a proud stutterer, was flying home from a weekend trip to Los Angeles when her husband texted her a video clip of Trump. “I’m gonna bring the country tuh-tuh-tuh-together,’” the former president said as he parodied Biden’s State of the Union Speech on Saturday.

    “Just hearing the audience laugh took me back to the bullying days,” she said, recalling painful high school memories.

    Within hours, Chupkov and a network of stutterers around the country sprang into action. They sent a press release to major media outlets denouncing Trump and launched campaigns to urge stutterers to respond on social media and write letters to the editor.

    The response has been swift. Around the country, advocates have been giving media interviews and sharing emotional testimonials.

    “This time, we’re not going to stay silent,” said Chupkov, who wrote a comic book called “Proud Stutter” and hosts a podcast of the same name. Her nonprofit holds events around the country.

    Trump’s ridiculing of Biden comes as advocates have built broader acceptance of speech impediments. Chupkov said Biden’s visibility as president has helped and noted the headlines Biden made a few years ago when he met a boy with a stutter and offered his encouragement.

    The president has spoken openly about how coping with a stutter was one of his greatest challenges as a young person, and he still sometimes struggles with halting speech in his public appearances.

    He’s not the only public figure to embrace a speech challenge. California Assembly Speaker Robert Rivas, who also stutters, authored a bill last year to designate Stuttering Awareness Week in May and spoke at a Capitol press conference with Chupkov and other stutterers.

    “I still have my stutter,” Rivas said at the time. “But certainly, at the end of the day, that is who I am, and I am a better person now because of my stutter.”

    Chupkov said she worries that Trump’s behavior could “normalize” insults directed at people with speech impediments. She said many advocates are hopeful Trump’s mockery will inspire Biden to have an open conversation about stuttering, which advocates estimate affects 3 million people nationwide.

    “That would be really powerful, especially for young people. I just wish he could talk more about that,” she said. “It makes him more empathetic. It makes him a good listener.”

    What’s worse? POOTWH, those who laugh along with him at his rallies or the 10s of millions who support and vote for this POS?
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,217
    2023
    Donald Trump is a horrible human.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/12/donald-trump-joe-biden-stutter-00146467

    Stuttering advocates have words for Donald Trump

    Trump’s ridiculing of Biden comes as advocates have built broader acceptance of speech impediments.

    Stuttering advocate Maya Chupkov speaks at a podium

    Stuttering advocate Maya Chupkov speaks at a press conference with California Assembly Speaker Robert Rivas. | Courtesy of Maya Chupkov

    By DUSTIN GARDINER

    03/12/2024 10:14 AM EDT

    Updated: 03/12/2024 11:07 AM EDT

    Former President Donald Trump drew laughter from supporters at a rally in Georgia over the weekend as he mocked President Joe Biden for his stutter.

    He also fired up a network of “proud stutterers” ready to put Trump on blast over his behavior.

    Among them is Maya Chupkov, a stuttering advocate and San Francisco-based podcast host who has her own speech impediment.

    Chupkov, who is also a proud stutterer, was flying home from a weekend trip to Los Angeles when her husband texted her a video clip of Trump. “I’m gonna bring the country tuh-tuh-tuh-together,’” the former president said as he parodied Biden’s State of the Union Speech on Saturday.

    “Just hearing the audience laugh took me back to the bullying days,” she said, recalling painful high school memories.

    Within hours, Chupkov and a network of stutterers around the country sprang into action. They sent a press release to major media outlets denouncing Trump and launched campaigns to urge stutterers to respond on social media and write letters to the editor.

    The response has been swift. Around the country, advocates have been giving media interviews and sharing emotional testimonials.

    “This time, we’re not going to stay silent,” said Chupkov, who wrote a comic book called “Proud Stutter” and hosts a podcast of the same name. Her nonprofit holds events around the country.

    Trump’s ridiculing of Biden comes as advocates have built broader acceptance of speech impediments. Chupkov said Biden’s visibility as president has helped and noted the headlines Biden made a few years ago when he met a boy with a stutter and offered his encouragement.

    The president has spoken openly about how coping with a stutter was one of his greatest challenges as a young person, and he still sometimes struggles with halting speech in his public appearances.

    He’s not the only public figure to embrace a speech challenge. California Assembly Speaker Robert Rivas, who also stutters, authored a bill last year to designate Stuttering Awareness Week in May and spoke at a Capitol press conference with Chupkov and other stutterers.

    “I still have my stutter,” Rivas said at the time. “But certainly, at the end of the day, that is who I am, and I am a better person now because of my stutter.”

    Chupkov said she worries that Trump’s behavior could “normalize” insults directed at people with speech impediments. She said many advocates are hopeful Trump’s mockery will inspire Biden to have an open conversation about stuttering, which advocates estimate affects 3 million people nationwide.

    “That would be really powerful, especially for young people. I just wish he could talk more about that,” she said. “It makes him more empathetic. It makes him a good listener.”

    What’s worse? POOTWH, those who laugh along with him at his rallies or the 10s of millions who support and vote for this POS?
    the supporters are worse, because they should know better.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • mickeyrat
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  • mickeyrat
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  • mickeyrat
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  • mickeyrat
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  • mickeyrat
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    little walk down momeory lane.....


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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,217
    2023
    surprised our resident magas aren't on here telling us how the indictments are all fake since the georgia judge dropped six counts against trump yesterday.

    as if he is still not facing 80+ other counts and 115 years in jail.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,884
    surprised our resident magas aren't on here telling us how the indictments are all fake since the georgia judge dropped six counts against trump yesterday.

    as if he is still not facing 80+ other counts and 115 years in jail.
    I think they lack clarity, was the ruling.  So the prosecutor can file a superseding indictment and re-include them in the charging documents.  
  • OnWis97
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    I'm no law expert, but I suspect it's common for someone to be facing several counts and have some dropped for reasons other than "he didn't do it." More like, not enough evidence, a witness is changing their story, not worth the effort given the stronger cases elsewhere, etc.  And maybe he didn't do it on a couple of those six. That's hardly a win given what's still on the table.
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,425
    mrussel1 said:
    surprised our resident magas aren't on here telling us how the indictments are all fake since the georgia judge dropped six counts against trump yesterday.

    as if he is still not facing 80+ other counts and 115 years in jail.
    I think they lack clarity, was the ruling.  So the prosecutor can file a superseding indictment and re-include them in the charging documents.  
    Yeah, the judge found the charges had merit, but lacked specific details and said the submitted charge was too open for exactly which path they were pursuing so the defense would have a hard time mounting their rebuttal based on the numerous options prosecutors could pursue.
    It's a hopeless situation...
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