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Can't Deny Me...reconsidered

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    pearljammr78pearljammr78 Posts: 1,613
    I like both songs. Hell, I even kinda like Ole. 
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    HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,420
    vaggar99 said:
    just be thankful they didn't try to sound like Imagine Dragons.
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    iOnlyownMymindiOnlyownMymind Posts: 2,588
    Heres my hot take: I'll gladly take this song over Of The Earth any show. And for the next record.


     :s  You'd rather watch Ed bang a cowbell than witness a song with a better riff and a jam that's awesome live?  To each their own. 
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    buck502000buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    edited July 2019
    Of the Earth is a jaw-dropper.  I saw it at Wrigley and my jaw hit the floor.... epic to say the least 

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L_Dq5_Nubbg
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    DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,413
    edited July 2019
    KN219077 said:
    Can’t Deny Me over Of The Earth? I apparently have much different taste in PJ than some of you. That’s okay, it’s all good!

    No, it’s not ok. Not even a huge fan of Of The Earth but the nicest thing I can say about Can’t Deny Me is that it’s relatively short. Ham handed politicism, Ed sounding rough, just completely plodding on all fronts.
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    Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,761
    edited July 2019
    DewieCox said:
    KN219077 said:
    Can’t Deny Me over Of The Earth? I apparently have much different taste in PJ than some of you. That’s okay, it’s all good!

    No, it’s not ok. Not even a huge fan of Of The Earth but the nicest thing I can say about Can’t Deny Me is that it’s relatively short. Ham handed politicism, Ed sounding rough, just completely plodding on all fronts.
    Sure it is. People can like whatever shitty songs they want. And dislike the good ones too if they feel so inclined. 
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    DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,413
    DewieCox said:
    KN219077 said:
    Can’t Deny Me over Of The Earth? I apparently have much different taste in PJ than some of you. That’s okay, it’s all good!

    No, it’s not ok. Not even a huge fan of Of The Earth but the nicest thing I can say about Can’t Deny Me is that it’s relatively short. Ham handed politicism, Ed sounding rough, just completely plodding on all fronts.
    Sure it is. People can like whatever shitty songs they want. And dislike the good ones too if they feel so inclined. 

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    Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 7,022
    Of the Earth is a jaw-dropper.  I saw it at Wrigley and my jaw hit the floor.... epic to say the least 

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L_Dq5_Nubbg
    I was there too. And it was...fine? It's a bit meandering. Probably a good reason why they haven't been able to land on a version for the past 3 records.
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,322
    edited July 2019
    DewieCox said:
    KN219077 said:
    Can’t Deny Me over Of The Earth? I apparently have much different taste in PJ than some of you. That’s okay, it’s all good!

    No, it’s not ok. Not even a huge fan of Of The Earth but the nicest thing I can say about Can’t Deny Me is that it’s relatively short. Ham handed politicism, Ed sounding rough, just completely plodding on all fronts.
    When has Eddie ever not sounded rough on Of The Earth?

    And in what way isn't Of The Earth isn't plodding. It's just that weird and endless start-stop-start-stop-start-stop rif, which Eddie screeching on top.

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    Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 7,022
    He means Ed sounds rough on CDM.
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,322
    edited July 2019
    He means Ed sounds rough on CDM.
    Yes. And I have never heard him not sound "rough" on Of the Earth :)
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,947
    vaggar99 said:
    i personally think its a major faux pas to put a song on an album after so much time.
    Is there any precedent? 

    I mean other than, songs like Silver & Gold (Neil Young) being played for decades live before released on a studio album.

    But is there other examples of a single being released, and the album not coming out for a long-long time?
    back when i was a fan, I recall being pretty annoyed that Godsmack released a song for the Mummy soundtrack, and it ended up on their next studio album a year later. 
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,947
    KN219077 said:
    Can’t Deny Me over Of The Earth? I apparently have much different taste in PJ than some of you. That’s okay, it’s all good!
    OTE was cool when they played it out of nowhere live in this day and age. But it's too disjointed from verse to chorus.i can see why they couldn't make it work in studio. 
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 18,066
    I don't understand why Ed beats the cowbell for this song....why doesn't Matt handle that?
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    Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,761
    vaggar99 said:
    i personally think its a major faux pas to put a song on an album after so much time.
    Is there any precedent? 

    I mean other than, songs like Silver & Gold (Neil Young) being played for decades live before released on a studio album.

    But is there other examples of a single being released, and the album not coming out for a long-long time?
    back when i was a fan, I recall being pretty annoyed that Godsmack released a song for the Mummy soundtrack, and it ended up on their next studio album a year later. 
    Will Smith can qualify for this I guess. He had the Men In Black theme song on the movie's soundtrack and then he put it on his Big Willie Style album the following year. 
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    Abe FromanAbe Froman Posts: 5,147
    Of the Earth is a jaw-dropper.  I saw it at Wrigley and my jaw hit the floor.... epic to say the least 

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L_Dq5_Nubbg
    I couldn’t agree more. I also caught it in Denver and it was fucking awesome!  

    The TMR version with Jack White is literally one of my favorite things PJ has ever put out. 

    To each their own I guess. I just think musically Of The Earth is a masterpiece of a jam. Oh and again, I like Can’t Deny Me. Especially live. 
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    BR223133BR223133 Posts: 86
    After listening to 'Dark Matter' a bunch, it makes me wonder how 'Can't Deny Me' would have sounded if Andrew Watt had produced it.
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,947
    I listened to it yesterday. I still like it. 
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