Pearl Jam's new album ”Dark Matter” ! Single out!

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  • mattcoz
    mattcoz Chicago Posts: 2,243
    BF25394 said:
    dwjmu84 said:
    BF25394 said:
    dwjmu84 said:
    Looks like an astronomer who works, in some way, with JWST was in attendance. She’s a die hard PJ fan, but I’m wondering if maybe she contributed art/photos given the album title. Mike is following her on X. If there is some link here, and there are JWST photos in the album artwork, I will literally reach orgasm. This will marry two of my favorite hobbies. My wife keeps photos of us as her phone background, I use photos from JWST! 
    All of those photos are made available to the public by NASA, so anyone can use them. The photos from Binaural were the same deal.

    Artwork for "dark matter" would be interesting because it's not visible and doesn't seem to interact with "ordinary" matter. We can only detect it indirectly and because our equations don't make sense if it's not there.

    As mentioned in the other thread, Josh suggested the title Eclipse for the album, so astronomy is definitely on their minds. (Of course, "dark matter" as used in the song could just be a metaphor and not literally about the mysterious substance.)
    Yes - it’s nice that NASA posts some of the best shots from JWST, many of which are in the infrared portion of the spectrum (this is how you see through gas, etc in the universe). 

    Of course we can’t see dark matter (which is only theorized by the way), but it is thought to be a key component of the lambda cold dark matter theory of the universe’s expansion post big bang. 

    In any event, I love the title and hope there’s some cool artwork involved. 
    Yes, but "theory" in this context means the best explanation given all the available evidence. If dark matter didn't exist, galaxies would fly apart upon rotation (h/t Vera Rubin). So it's a theory in the same sense that gravity is a theory. Something is affecting visible matter and causing it to cohere, and something is pulling us down toward the center of the earth.

    Sorry, I know you understand this, but I always shudder when I hear "it's only a theory" because people say this to deny evolution without understanding that evolution being a "theory" doesn't mean it's some off-the-cuff idea. It's a well-established, well-substantiated body of knowledge supported by all of the available evidence.
    Yeah, anyone saying "it's only a theory" is just revealing that they don't understand what a scientific theory is.

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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,504
    edited February 2024
    mookeywrench said:
    igotid88 said:
    For a chance for them to possibly get a number 1 album it will have to be released on 4/12 or before. That would be a number 1 in 4 different decades
    Safe to say, if they don't get number 1, their career is over.
    Britney and Tool already killed them. But as remnants of a once no1 band they wander this earth
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
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    igotid88 said:
    BF25394 said:
    igotid88 said:
    For a chance for them to possibly get a number 1 album it will have to be released on 4/12 or before. That would be a number 1 in 4 different decades
    They will be extremely hard-pressed to get a number one album on the Billboard 200 because the formula overweights streaming, and they no longer sell enough albums to overcome that, unless they get lucky in a particular week. But, yes, come out April 19 or for several weeks after that, and they will have no shot. (I don't think they particularly care about this, of course.)

    To put it in context, this week's number one album is Morgan Wallen's latest (which is anything but new-- it's in its 18th nonconsecutive week at number one. He is credited with 66,000 equivalent units, of which only 1,500 are actual album sales. Gigaton sold 57,000 in its first week and had 6,000 in streaming equivalents, for a total of 63,000, which landed it at No. 5 on the Billboard 200. Expect the new album to sell fewer copies than Gigaton. (Yes, despite the fact that Gigaton came out at the beginning of the pandemic.)

    Another piece of context: Green Day's new album just sold 39,000 copies in its first week. That was 39 times more sales than 21 Savage's album, but 21 Savage was No. 1 and Green Day was No. 4 because 21 Savage had a lot more streams.

    There are also new albums by Ariana Grande and Justin Timberlake due out in March. Those will be probably still be racking up streams in early April, so I wouldn't get your hopes up.
    We each need to buy 20 copies
    I imagine they will have atleast the amount of vinyl options as Earthling to push multiple sales
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  • just_one
    just_one Lisbon Posts: 2,295
    edited February 2024

  • pjl44
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    The only prediction I'm confident in making about the new album at this point is the astronomy mansplaining will be off the charts
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,569
    Spunkie said:
    The Juggler said:
    Spunkie said:
    ^New stuff sounds like best ever :rofl:
    Do you dare disagree with Ed Vedder? 
    That was truly a juxtaposed statement given that his comment was taken within the context of hearing only the back alley recording.

    If I recall correctly, disagreeing with Ed is how Brother made the cut.
    wasn't that a disagreement between jeff and stone?
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  • demetrios
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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    igotid88 said:
    BF25394 said:
    igotid88 said:
    For a chance for them to possibly get a number 1 album it will have to be released on 4/12 or before. That would be a number 1 in 4 different decades
    They will be extremely hard-pressed to get a number one album on the Billboard 200 because the formula overweights streaming, and they no longer sell enough albums to overcome that, unless they get lucky in a particular week. But, yes, come out April 19 or for several weeks after that, and they will have no shot. (I don't think they particularly care about this, of course.)

    To put it in context, this week's number one album is Morgan Wallen's latest (which is anything but new-- it's in its 18th nonconsecutive week at number one. He is credited with 66,000 equivalent units, of which only 1,500 are actual album sales. Gigaton sold 57,000 in its first week and had 6,000 in streaming equivalents, for a total of 63,000, which landed it at No. 5 on the Billboard 200. Expect the new album to sell fewer copies than Gigaton. (Yes, despite the fact that Gigaton came out at the beginning of the pandemic.)

    Another piece of context: Green Day's new album just sold 39,000 copies in its first week. That was 39 times more sales than 21 Savage's album, but 21 Savage was No. 1 and Green Day was No. 4 because 21 Savage had a lot more streams.

    There are also new albums by Ariana Grande and Justin Timberlake due out in March. Those will be probably still be racking up streams in early April, so I wouldn't get your hopes up.
    We each need to buy 20 copies
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  • Spunkie
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    edited February 2024
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Spunkie said:
    The Juggler said:
    Spunkie said:
    ^New stuff sounds like best ever :rofl:
    Do you dare disagree with Ed Vedder? 
    That was truly a juxtaposed statement given that his comment was taken within the context of hearing only the back alley recording.

    If I recall correctly, disagreeing with Ed is how Brother made the cut.
    wasn't that a disagreement between jeff and stone?
    *Edit: if you didn't get a chance to read my response hfd let me know and I'll PM you
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  • demetrios
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  • Zod
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    dwjmu84 said:
    Gonna get completely drowned out by the swifty faithful unless it comes out well before4/19. 

    Does it really matter?  At this point, they're a Veteran rock act with a loyal following.  They're not really mainstream anymore.   Those of us still paying attention will buy a copy or two, but I'm not sure if being overshadowed by a bigger more current artist impact them?  The people most likely to buy the album will still buy the album.  Those who aren't, probably won't anyways.
  • The Juggler
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    Spunkie said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Spunkie said:
    The Juggler said:
    Spunkie said:
    ^New stuff sounds like best ever :rofl:
    Do you dare disagree with Ed Vedder? 
    That was truly a juxtaposed statement given that his comment was taken within the context of hearing only the back alley recording.

    If I recall correctly, disagreeing with Ed is how Brother made the cut.
    wasn't that a disagreement between jeff and stone?
    *Edit: if you didn't get a chance to read my response hfd let me know and I'll PM you
    Can you just preemptively pm him to be safe, spunkie?
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  • dwjmu84
    dwjmu84 Posts: 408
    Zod said:
    dwjmu84 said:
    Gonna get completely drowned out by the swifty faithful unless it comes out well before4/19. 

    Does it really matter?  At this point, they're a Veteran rock act with a loyal following.  They're not really mainstream anymore.   Those of us still paying attention will buy a copy or two, but I'm not sure if being overshadowed by a bigger more current artist impact them?  The people most likely to buy the album will still buy the album.  Those who aren't, probably won't anyways.
    I mean I generally agree, but I do think they'd like a little space for the release to "breathe" and then there's only so much music media bandwidth at any given time.  I really do think they'd prefer not to release that close to the most popular star on the planet.
  • raindog80
    raindog80 Reggio Emilia, Italy Posts: 1,192
    edited February 2024
    KCUF YES! 


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  • TinaE
    TinaE Germany Posts: 2,146
    raindog80 said:
    KCUF YES! 


    Interesting...I'm very excited!!!
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,504
    Oh, new KoL also. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • dwjmu84
    dwjmu84 Posts: 408
    Says Columbia records. I thought they were on monkey wrench/republic?

    How would Columbia programmers have access?
  • just_one
    just_one Lisbon Posts: 2,295
    dwjmu84 said:
    Says Columbia records. I thought they were on monkey wrench/republic?

    How would Columbia programmers have access?
    Colombia is the worldwide distributor
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,504
    edited February 2024
    So they're ditching Universal? Didn't they distribute Gigaton and Lightning Bolt
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • dwjmu84
    dwjmu84 Posts: 408
    just_one said:
    dwjmu84 said:
    Says Columbia records. I thought they were on monkey wrench/republic?

    How would Columbia programmers have access?
    Colombia is the worldwide distributor
    Ahhhh. I’m not well versed in this aspect of the biz. Let’s hope we hear something soon. 

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