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 And then spend the night at POOTWH SoHo before jetting down to Mar-I-Lieo for a round of golf that you won for donating.Poncier said:
 Dude, you should relax and take a Trump Shuttle flight to Trump University and enjoy a fine Trump steak and nice glass of Trump vodka.Merkin Baller said:
 I’m tired of that Loser and his sycophants who insist on treating him like a winner. He’s anything but.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Sounds to me as if you’re tired of winning. Are you tired of winning yet?Merkin Baller said:trump’s a Loser. He Lost both popular votes in 2016 & 2020, and Lost the electoral college vote in 2020.
 Since November of 2020 he’s been doing what sore Losers do, kicking and screaming and making excuses and blaming everyone under the sun for having Lost the 2020 election.Let’s not re-elect that Loser in 2024.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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 I think you've just predicted a new trend in death row last meal requests.Poncier said:
 Dude, you should relax and take a Trump Shuttle flight to Trump University and enjoy a fine Trump steak and nice glass of Trump vodka.Merkin Baller said:
 I’m tired of that Loser and his sycophants who insist on treating him like a winner. He’s anything but.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Sounds to me as if you’re tired of winning. Are you tired of winning yet?Merkin Baller said:trump’s a Loser. He Lost both popular votes in 2016 & 2020, and Lost the electoral college vote in 2020.
 Since November of 2020 he’s been doing what sore Losers do, kicking and screaming and making excuses and blaming everyone under the sun for having Lost the 2020 election.Let’s not re-elect that Loser in 2024.1995 Milwaukee 1998 Alpine, Alpine 2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston 2004 Boston, Boston 2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty) 2011 Alpine, Alpine
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 I’m good… I just appreciate Biden’s new approach in calling trump what he is: a Loser.Poncier said:
 Dude, you should relax and take a Trump Shuttle flight to Trump University and enjoy a fine Trump steak and nice glass of Trump vodka.Merkin Baller said:
 I’m tired of that Loser and his sycophants who insist on treating him like a winner. He’s anything but.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Sounds to me as if you’re tired of winning. Are you tired of winning yet?Merkin Baller said:trump’s a Loser. He Lost both popular votes in 2016 & 2020, and Lost the electoral college vote in 2020.
 Since November of 2020 he’s been doing what sore Losers do, kicking and screaming and making excuses and blaming everyone under the sun for having Lost the 2020 election.Let’s not re-elect that Loser in 2024.0
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            2023Sure, it’s not a delusional cult. 
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            Fox News is more concerned about Taylor swift than the GOP refusing to negotiate border measures.Lofuckingl0
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            Why does anyone participating in this thread assume good faith? I see a buncha "can you believe (insert current outrage/hypocrisy)?"
 Fox News has always been a right wing megaphone, more concerned with winning than intellectual honesty.
 Trump voters have never cared about anything other than cultural wars that don't personally affect them.
 What's a message board? Maybe I'm missing the point.
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 Why do you assume anyone is assuming good faith?JesseMcK said:Why does anyone participating in this thread assume good faith? I see a buncha "can you believe (insert current outrage/hypocrisy)?"
 Fox News has always been a right wing megaphone, more concerned with winning than intellectual honesty.
 Trump voters have never cared about anything other than cultural wars that don't personally affect them.
 What's a message board? Maybe I'm missing the point.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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            Because otherwise there would be no need to point out that Fox News is more interested in Swifties than the border, and a million other examples.
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 I get it but it's still funny to point out the ridiculous shit that Fox focuses on.JesseMcK said:Because otherwise there would be no need to point out that Fox News is more interested in Swifties than the border, and a million other examples.
 What am I even doing in this thread? Egad, I have actual other stuff to do!Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20
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 Sometimes you need someone to commiserate with you. My wife isn't interested in politics.JesseMcK said:Because otherwise there would be no need to point out that Fox News is more interested in Swifties than the border, and a million other examples.
 What am I even doing in this thread? Egad, I have actual other stuff to do!
 Speaking of Tay Tay
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            2023You know, if you just ignore POOTWH and his batshit crazy cult and media enablers, it’ll all just go away and things will return to normal, intellectual honesty and assumptions of good faith notwithstanding.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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            The suggestion that we shouldn’t talk about the most watched cable news network because everyone knows they’re full of shit doesn’t really track for me.
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            No - the point is we should move on to more substantive discussion. Driving by the car crash and pointing at it doesn't do any good. This thread is full of Twitter wackiness posted by ladies who take it from instagram while hiking, or something.
 OK, Fox News is full of shit. Now what? it's been full of shit for decades. If the point is to vent, cool. I would have thought everyone would have had enough of that by now. Al Franken wrote about this like 30 years ago. Let's jump up a level. We've got the who and the what. Now let's figure out the why and the how. Or not, whatever.
 What am I still doing here? Yelling at the people about them yelling at the people is a painting of a painting. Feel free to ignore me.0
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            2023Godfather?Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
 The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
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 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
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 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
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 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
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 Feel free to add substance to the conversation rather than complaining about the posts.JesseMcK said:No - the point is we should move on to more substantive discussion. Driving by the car crash and pointing at it doesn't do any good. This thread is full of Twitter wackiness posted by ladies who take it from instagram while hiking, or something.
 OK, Fox News is full of shit. Now what? it's been full of shit for decades. If the point is to vent, cool. I would have thought everyone would have had enough of that by now. Al Franken wrote about this like 30 years ago. Let's jump up a level. We've got the who and the what. Now let's figure out the why and the how. Or not, whatever.
 What am I still doing here? Yelling at the people about them yelling at the people is a painting of a painting. Feel free to ignore me.
 I’ll ask you a question or two: are POOTWH followers/voters in a cult and if so, what %? What role has media, both traditional and old school and new school social, played in where we are today? Did Russia Russia Russia interfere in the 2016 election and was the 2020 election stolen from POOTWH?
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 A thread about Trump will not be, by definition, substantive. What are you going to say to advance the understanding of his legal strategy, or political strategy? Is this some great Svengali at work? No, he's a cretin. If you want to have a better debate, join the discussions when we talk about student loan forgiveness, monetary policy, Ukraine, etc. There are threads for that. You're not going to get smarter on this thread.JesseMcK said:No - the point is we should move on to more substantive discussion. Driving by the car crash and pointing at it doesn't do any good. This thread is full of Twitter wackiness posted by ladies who take it from instagram while hiking, or something.
 OK, Fox News is full of shit. Now what? it's been full of shit for decades. If the point is to vent, cool. I would have thought everyone would have had enough of that by now. Al Franken wrote about this like 30 years ago. Let's jump up a level. We've got the who and the what. Now let's figure out the why and the how. Or not, whatever.
 What am I still doing here? Yelling at the people about them yelling at the people is a painting of a painting. Feel free to ignore me.0
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 I tried and was roundly booed out of the room for questioning whether the NYC fraud case was beneficial to the cause.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Feel free to add substance to the conversation rather than complaining about the posts.JesseMcK said:No - the point is we should move on to more substantive discussion. Driving by the car crash and pointing at it doesn't do any good. This thread is full of Twitter wackiness posted by ladies who take it from instagram while hiking, or something.
 OK, Fox News is full of shit. Now what? it's been full of shit for decades. If the point is to vent, cool. I would have thought everyone would have had enough of that by now. Al Franken wrote about this like 30 years ago. Let's jump up a level. We've got the who and the what. Now let's figure out the why and the how. Or not, whatever.
 What am I still doing here? Yelling at the people about them yelling at the people is a painting of a painting. Feel free to ignore me.
 I’ll ask you a question or two: are POOTWH followers/voters in a cult and if so, what %? What role has media, both traditional and old school and new school social, played in where we are today? Did Russia Russia Russia interfere in the 2016 election and was the 2020 election stolen from POOTWH?
 If you want to have a conversation, have a conversation. If you want to complain, complain. It’s still a free country the last time I checked but it may not be for long.
 I tried and was told that someone in a podcast said the Fani Willis stuff was made up nonsense.
 I tried and was told that who cares why George Conway flipped, all that matters is he did.
 Q: are POOTWH followers/voters in a cult and if so, what %? What role has media, both traditional and old school and new school social, played in where we are today?
 A: Yes, a portion of this country has had their brain broken by the internet, but it's small enough that it should act as a millstone around the neck of the Republicans, i.e. big enough to be pandered to, but small enough not to matter in an election. I don't know what percentage. I recommend It Came From Something Awful by Dale Beran.
 Q: Did Russia Russia Russia interfere in the 2016 election and was the 2020 election stolen from POOTWH?
 A: Sorry, is this some sort of litmus test for me? I would think where I stand is clear by now. Russia interfered in the election, I think, but we all missed the mark on it. The Facebook shenanigans they pulled were relatively small potatoes and they came at it from both sides. Operatives definitely seemed to try and make inroads with the Trump campaign, but frankly he was too stupid to actually realize how to leverage the help they were offering. And to my point about the NYC fraud case, the miss on Russia sucked the oxygen out of the room on Ukraine, which is where he should have been impeached the first time. I fear this is going to happen again with the Jack Smith case, and the polling backs this up
 Of course the 2020 election wasn't stolen. Again, I hate Trump. I've said it a bunch in this forum. But we keep coming at him, failing, and turning our attention to Twitter ownage.
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 Well look,, you can't expect everyone to agree with your opinion. No one booed you out. No one told you not to post, they just disagreed. People are going to do that here. They disagree with me on monetary and tax issues all of the time. I'm against strident loan forgiveness and the outlier around here.JesseMcK said:
 I tried and was roundly booed out of the room for questioning whether the NYC fraud case was beneficial to the cause.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Feel free to add substance to the conversation rather than complaining about the posts.JesseMcK said:No - the point is we should move on to more substantive discussion. Driving by the car crash and pointing at it doesn't do any good. This thread is full of Twitter wackiness posted by ladies who take it from instagram while hiking, or something.
 OK, Fox News is full of shit. Now what? it's been full of shit for decades. If the point is to vent, cool. I would have thought everyone would have had enough of that by now. Al Franken wrote about this like 30 years ago. Let's jump up a level. We've got the who and the what. Now let's figure out the why and the how. Or not, whatever.
 What am I still doing here? Yelling at the people about them yelling at the people is a painting of a painting. Feel free to ignore me.
 I’ll ask you a question or two: are POOTWH followers/voters in a cult and if so, what %? What role has media, both traditional and old school and new school social, played in where we are today? Did Russia Russia Russia interfere in the 2016 election and was the 2020 election stolen from POOTWH?
 If you want to have a conversation, have a conversation. If you want to complain, complain. It’s still a free country the last time I checked but it may not be for long.
 I tried and was told that someone in a podcast said the Fani Willis stuff was made up nonsense.
 I tried and was told that who cares why George Conway flipped, all that matters is he did.
 Q: are POOTWH followers/voters in a cult and if so, what %? What role has media, both traditional and old school and new school social, played in where we are today?
 A: Yes, a portion of this country has had their brain broken by the internet, but it's small enough that it should act as a millstone around the neck of the Republicans, i.e. big enough to be pandered to, but small enough not to matter in an election. I don't know what percentage. I recommend It Came From Something Awful by Dale Beran.
 Q: Did Russia Russia Russia interfere in the 2016 election and was the 2020 election stolen from POOTWH?
 A: Sorry, is this some sort of litmus test for me? I would think where I stand is clear by now. Russia interfered in the election, I think, but we all missed the mark on it. The Facebook shenanigans they pulled were relatively small potatoes and they came at it from both sides. Operatives definitely seemed to try and make inroads with the Trump campaign, but frankly he was too stupid to actually realize how to leverage the help they were offering. And to my point about the NYC fraud case, the miss on Russia sucked the oxygen out of the room on Ukraine, which is where he should have been impeached the first time. I fear this is going to happen again with the Jack Smith case, and the polling backs this up
 Of course the 2020 election wasn't stolen. Again, I hate Trump. I've said it a bunch in this forum. But we keep coming at him, failing, and turning our attention to Twitter ownage.0
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 This is very fair and I'm being a bit dramatic, but I should point out that no matter how much I contribute to this thread, if you pick at any of the prevailing logic or group think here it's assumed you're a kook (see the guy who just asked me if I thought the 2020 election was stolen).mrussel1 said:
 Well look,, you can't expect everyone to agree with your opinion. No one booed you out. No one told you not to post, they just disagreed. People are going to do that here. They disagree with me on monetary and tax issues all of the time. I'm against strident loan forgiveness and the outlier around here.JesseMcK said:
 I tried and was roundly booed out of the room for questioning whether the NYC fraud case was beneficial to the cause.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Feel free to add substance to the conversation rather than complaining about the posts.JesseMcK said:No - the point is we should move on to more substantive discussion. Driving by the car crash and pointing at it doesn't do any good. This thread is full of Twitter wackiness posted by ladies who take it from instagram while hiking, or something.
 OK, Fox News is full of shit. Now what? it's been full of shit for decades. If the point is to vent, cool. I would have thought everyone would have had enough of that by now. Al Franken wrote about this like 30 years ago. Let's jump up a level. We've got the who and the what. Now let's figure out the why and the how. Or not, whatever.
 What am I still doing here? Yelling at the people about them yelling at the people is a painting of a painting. Feel free to ignore me.
 I’ll ask you a question or two: are POOTWH followers/voters in a cult and if so, what %? What role has media, both traditional and old school and new school social, played in where we are today? Did Russia Russia Russia interfere in the 2016 election and was the 2020 election stolen from POOTWH?
 If you want to have a conversation, have a conversation. If you want to complain, complain. It’s still a free country the last time I checked but it may not be for long.
 I tried and was told that someone in a podcast said the Fani Willis stuff was made up nonsense.
 I tried and was told that who cares why George Conway flipped, all that matters is he did.
 Q: are POOTWH followers/voters in a cult and if so, what %? What role has media, both traditional and old school and new school social, played in where we are today?
 A: Yes, a portion of this country has had their brain broken by the internet, but it's small enough that it should act as a millstone around the neck of the Republicans, i.e. big enough to be pandered to, but small enough not to matter in an election. I don't know what percentage. I recommend It Came From Something Awful by Dale Beran.
 Q: Did Russia Russia Russia interfere in the 2016 election and was the 2020 election stolen from POOTWH?
 A: Sorry, is this some sort of litmus test for me? I would think where I stand is clear by now. Russia interfered in the election, I think, but we all missed the mark on it. The Facebook shenanigans they pulled were relatively small potatoes and they came at it from both sides. Operatives definitely seemed to try and make inroads with the Trump campaign, but frankly he was too stupid to actually realize how to leverage the help they were offering. And to my point about the NYC fraud case, the miss on Russia sucked the oxygen out of the room on Ukraine, which is where he should have been impeached the first time. I fear this is going to happen again with the Jack Smith case, and the polling backs this up
 Of course the 2020 election wasn't stolen. Again, I hate Trump. I've said it a bunch in this forum. But we keep coming at him, failing, and turning our attention to Twitter ownage.
 To the other point about this thread not having any substance on purpose, that's also fair. I should move on. It's not like I'm not busy, it's just that my brain is as broken as anyone's and something draws me into this nonsense. I came here for Lost Dogs and should try and remember that.0
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 I’ll respond in more detail to your response to my initial questions but why is asking someone if they believe the 2020 election was stolen somehow indicates that I think you’re a kook, when 70+% of registered repubs believe it to be true? Up until now, I had no clue what you believe. And it’s not like you’ve been a prolific poster in this thread so we “know” where you’re coming from.JesseMcK said:
 This is very fair and I'm being a bit dramatic, but I should point out that no matter how much I contribute to this thread, if you pick at any of the prevailing logic or group think here it's assumed you're a kook (see the guy who just asked me if I thought the 2020 election was stolen).mrussel1 said:
 Well look,, you can't expect everyone to agree with your opinion. No one booed you out. No one told you not to post, they just disagreed. People are going to do that here. They disagree with me on monetary and tax issues all of the time. I'm against strident loan forgiveness and the outlier around here.JesseMcK said:
 I tried and was roundly booed out of the room for questioning whether the NYC fraud case was beneficial to the cause.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Feel free to add substance to the conversation rather than complaining about the posts.JesseMcK said:No - the point is we should move on to more substantive discussion. Driving by the car crash and pointing at it doesn't do any good. This thread is full of Twitter wackiness posted by ladies who take it from instagram while hiking, or something.
 OK, Fox News is full of shit. Now what? it's been full of shit for decades. If the point is to vent, cool. I would have thought everyone would have had enough of that by now. Al Franken wrote about this like 30 years ago. Let's jump up a level. We've got the who and the what. Now let's figure out the why and the how. Or not, whatever.
 What am I still doing here? Yelling at the people about them yelling at the people is a painting of a painting. Feel free to ignore me.
 I’ll ask you a question or two: are POOTWH followers/voters in a cult and if so, what %? What role has media, both traditional and old school and new school social, played in where we are today? Did Russia Russia Russia interfere in the 2016 election and was the 2020 election stolen from POOTWH?
 If you want to have a conversation, have a conversation. If you want to complain, complain. It’s still a free country the last time I checked but it may not be for long.
 I tried and was told that someone in a podcast said the Fani Willis stuff was made up nonsense.
 I tried and was told that who cares why George Conway flipped, all that matters is he did.
 Q: are POOTWH followers/voters in a cult and if so, what %? What role has media, both traditional and old school and new school social, played in where we are today?
 A: Yes, a portion of this country has had their brain broken by the internet, but it's small enough that it should act as a millstone around the neck of the Republicans, i.e. big enough to be pandered to, but small enough not to matter in an election. I don't know what percentage. I recommend It Came From Something Awful by Dale Beran.
 Q: Did Russia Russia Russia interfere in the 2016 election and was the 2020 election stolen from POOTWH?
 A: Sorry, is this some sort of litmus test for me? I would think where I stand is clear by now. Russia interfered in the election, I think, but we all missed the mark on it. The Facebook shenanigans they pulled were relatively small potatoes and they came at it from both sides. Operatives definitely seemed to try and make inroads with the Trump campaign, but frankly he was too stupid to actually realize how to leverage the help they were offering. And to my point about the NYC fraud case, the miss on Russia sucked the oxygen out of the room on Ukraine, which is where he should have been impeached the first time. I fear this is going to happen again with the Jack Smith case, and the polling backs this up
 Of course the 2020 election wasn't stolen. Again, I hate Trump. I've said it a bunch in this forum. But we keep coming at him, failing, and turning our attention to Twitter ownage.
 To the other point about this thread not having any substance on purpose, that's also fair. I should move on. It's not like I'm not busy, it's just that my brain is as broken as anyone's and something draws me into this nonsense. I came here for Lost Dogs and should try and remember that.
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