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  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,162
    I am a patriot said:
    igotid88 said:
    Beltre I get. The other 2 were iffy. But they got in.
    And still no Andruw Jones.  😞 

    hey if Rolen got in Helton should be in (which I stated before).
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,603
    F Me In The Brain said:
    I like the 3 they voted in and have no issues with those left out, if steroids are still reason to keep them out.  Beltre was rumored but never caught, I believe.   He was badass defender and hitter, though.


    Piazza was too but he was voted in. David Ortiz was voted in. 
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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,237
    igotid88 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    I like the 3 they voted in and have no issues with those left out, if steroids are still reason to keep them out.  Beltre was rumored but never caught, I believe.   He was badass defender and hitter, though.


    Piazza was too but he was voted in. David Ortiz was voted in. 
    and pudge and bagwell.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,336
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    How the hell is Billy Wagner that close to being a HoFer? He was a major choker.
    He was an elite reliver for many years.  He is one I would have voted in.  Helton?  Nope.  Beltre, yes.  Mauer? Nope.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,336
    igotid88 said:
    Beltre I get. The other 2 were iffy. But they got in.
    100%.  I would not have voted for them.

    Wheres @xavier mcdaniel our resident baseball expert?
  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,352
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    How the hell is Billy Wagner that close to being a HoFer? He was a major choker.
    He was an elite reliver for many years.  He is one I would have voted in.  Helton?  Nope.  Beltre, yes.  Mauer? Nope.
    "elite reliever" guy who pitches one inning and chokes when it really matters - Is Kimbrel a HoFer too?

    Don't make me bestow the name "Tempos" on bad takes Mister! ;)
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,336
    edited January 2024
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    How the hell is Billy Wagner that close to being a HoFer? He was a major choker.
    He was an elite reliver for many years.  He is one I would have voted in.  Helton?  Nope.  Beltre, yes.  Mauer? Nope.
    "elite reliever" guy who pitches one inning and chokes when it really matters - Is Kimbrel a HoFer too?

    Don't make me bestow the name "Tempos" on bad takes Mister! ;)
    Kimbrel isn't even close to Wagner, stop it.
    Edit: Wagner at least pitched in a different, more difficult era, how about that?
    Post edited by tempo_n_groove on
  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,489
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    How the hell is Billy Wagner that close to being a HoFer? He was a major choker.
    He was an elite reliver for many years.  He is one I would have voted in.  Helton?  Nope.  Beltre, yes.  Mauer? Nope.
    I agree. He should get in & the fact that it's taken this long is silly. I would have voted for Wagner, Beltre & Mauer.
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,868
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    How the hell is Billy Wagner that close to being a HoFer? He was a major choker.
    He was an elite reliver for many years.  He is one I would have voted in.  Helton?  Nope.  Beltre, yes.  Mauer? Nope.


    Don't make me bestow the name "Tempos" on bad takes Mister! ;)
    Should we start a 1-5 tempo take scale?







    This weekend we rock Portland
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,907
    edited January 2024
    Poncier said:
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    How the hell is Billy Wagner that close to being a HoFer? He was a major choker.
    He was an elite reliver for many years.  He is one I would have voted in.  Helton?  Nope.  Beltre, yes.  Mauer? Nope.


    Don't make me bestow the name "Tempos" on bad takes Mister! ;)
    Should we start a 1-5 tempo take scale?







    greatest mascot in the world.  and you people would be better off hearing more of my opinions.  
    Post edited by pjhawks on
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,868
    pjhawks said:
    Poncier said:
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    How the hell is Billy Wagner that close to being a HoFer? He was a major choker.
    He was an elite reliver for many years.  He is one I would have voted in.  Helton?  Nope.  Beltre, yes.  Mauer? Nope.


    Don't make me bestow the name "Tempos" on bad takes Mister! ;)
    Should we start a 1-5 tempo take scale?







    greatest mascot in the world.  and you people would be better off hearing more of my opinions.  
    But what about tempo's opinions?
    We need some 5 tempo takes:






    This weekend we rock Portland
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,336
    Poncier said:
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    How the hell is Billy Wagner that close to being a HoFer? He was a major choker.
    He was an elite reliver for many years.  He is one I would have voted in.  Helton?  Nope.  Beltre, yes.  Mauer? Nope.


    Don't make me bestow the name "Tempos" on bad takes Mister! ;)
    Should we start a 1-5 tempo take scale?







    My apologies as you two are the baseball end all be all gods, I didn't realize whom I was talking to...
  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,352
    Some six-year old stitched that ratty thing together...
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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,237
    Poncier said:
    pjhawks said:
    Poncier said:
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    How the hell is Billy Wagner that close to being a HoFer? He was a major choker.
    He was an elite reliver for many years.  He is one I would have voted in.  Helton?  Nope.  Beltre, yes.  Mauer? Nope.


    Don't make me bestow the name "Tempos" on bad takes Mister! ;)
    Should we start a 1-5 tempo take scale?







    greatest mascot in the world.  and you people would be better off hearing more of my opinions.  
    But what about tempo's opinions?
    We need some 5 tempo takes:






    tempo IS A hot takes kind of guy….but he keeps things lively!
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,868
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Poncier said:
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    How the hell is Billy Wagner that close to being a HoFer? He was a major choker.
    He was an elite reliver for many years.  He is one I would have voted in.  Helton?  Nope.  Beltre, yes.  Mauer? Nope.


    Don't make me bestow the name "Tempos" on bad takes Mister! ;)
    Should we start a 1-5 tempo take scale?







    My apologies as you two are the baseball end all be all gods, I didn't realize whom I was talking to...
    I wasn't even part of the conversation, just tried to interject some humor.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,336
    Poncier said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Poncier said:
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    How the hell is Billy Wagner that close to being a HoFer? He was a major choker.
    He was an elite reliver for many years.  He is one I would have voted in.  Helton?  Nope.  Beltre, yes.  Mauer? Nope.


    Don't make me bestow the name "Tempos" on bad takes Mister! ;)
    Should we start a 1-5 tempo take scale?







    My apologies as you two are the baseball end all be all gods, I didn't realize whom I was talking to...
    I wasn't even part of the conversation, just tried to interject some humor.
    Very well then, I change my statement to (god), lol.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,336
    Poncier said:
    pjhawks said:
    Poncier said:
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    How the hell is Billy Wagner that close to being a HoFer? He was a major choker.
    He was an elite reliver for many years.  He is one I would have voted in.  Helton?  Nope.  Beltre, yes.  Mauer? Nope.


    Don't make me bestow the name "Tempos" on bad takes Mister! ;)
    Should we start a 1-5 tempo take scale?







    greatest mascot in the world.  and you people would be better off hearing more of my opinions.  
    But what about tempo's opinions?
    We need some 5 tempo takes:






    This is funny as hell actually.

    So guru, who would u have voted for?

  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,868
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Poncier said:
    pjhawks said:
    Poncier said:
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    How the hell is Billy Wagner that close to being a HoFer? He was a major choker.
    He was an elite reliver for many years.  He is one I would have voted in.  Helton?  Nope.  Beltre, yes.  Mauer? Nope.


    Don't make me bestow the name "Tempos" on bad takes Mister! ;)
    Should we start a 1-5 tempo take scale?







    greatest mascot in the world.  and you people would be better off hearing more of my opinions.  
    But what about tempo's opinions?
    We need some 5 tempo takes:






    This is funny as hell actually.

    So guru, who would u have voted for?

    Not sure if I'm guru or not, but of the guys on this year's ballot I'd have put in:
    ARoid
    Money Ramirez
    Beltre

    Helton I'm a no. More deserving than a Harold Baines, but still not quite HoF material.
    Mauer a maybe because he was a catcher for a good chunk of his career which has to account for something, otherwise his stats would keep him out IMO.

    Also, I'd have written in Clemens and Bonds. Those 2 not in Cooperstown is just wrong. There are definitely some juicers in there (Griffey, Piazza, Pudge Rodriguez), so no reason to exclude the 2 best players from the era.

    As for Wagner, looking at the small number of closer who've been inducted, I don't think Wagner measures up.
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,868
    edited January 2024
    Poncier said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Poncier said:
    pjhawks said:
    Poncier said:
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    How the hell is Billy Wagner that close to being a HoFer? He was a major choker.
    He was an elite reliver for many years.  He is one I would have voted in.  Helton?  Nope.  Beltre, yes.  Mauer? Nope.


    Don't make me bestow the name "Tempos" on bad takes Mister! ;)
    Should we start a 1-5 tempo take scale?







    greatest mascot in the world.  and you people would be better off hearing more of my opinions.  
    But what about tempo's opinions?
    We need some 5 tempo takes:






    This is funny as hell actually.

    So guru, who would u have voted for?

    Not sure if I'm guru or not, but of the guys on this year's ballot I'd have put in:
    ARoid
    Money Ramirez
    Beltre

    Helton I'm a no. More deserving than a Harold Baines, but still not quite HoF material.
    Mauer a maybe because he was a catcher for a good chunk of his career which has to account for something, otherwise his stats would keep him out IMO.

    Also, I'd have written in Clemens and Bonds. Those 2 not in Cooperstown is just wrong. There are definitely some juicers in there (Griffey, Piazza, Pudge Rodriguez), so no reason to exclude the 2 best players from the era.

    As for Wagner, looking at the small number of closer who've been inducted, I don't think Wagner measures up.
    Oh, and just to keep on theme, that would be a 5 Poncier take.






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  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,352
    Losing track of who did and didn't juice...

    I'd have voted for Mauer, Beltre, Sheffield. And Utley & Rollins but I'm definitely biased there. No pitchers? Well none of 'em deserve it!

    You can use this for my takes. Here's Johnny!


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