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  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,321
    Weston1283 said:
    just_one said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    just_one said:
    pjl44 said:
    I'd like to point out that said management is, if not endorsing, at least allowing an early look at this tour info on their official message board. It would be very easy for them to delete any and all posts with credible info leaked. The alternative is straight radio silence until an official announcement so pick what you want. (I like this scenario.)
    i also like it but something has changed in the way they announce tours and to fans that travel it sucks to have things announced so late
    How much time do you need to make travel plans? Honest question.  
    usually 6-7 months for flights is pretty good. the closer u get , the more expensive flights become.

    the way they used to announce (europe in december) was perfect because the flights were very affordable and it was the end of the year as flights among other things always get more expensive when a new year starts.
    I can only speak for Domestic flights in the USA, but flights tend to start out very high, then continue to drop until the 2 month or so mark, and then go up again as the day gets closer

    I think I read somewhere that someone ran the numbers, and 56 days out is actually the cheapest average day to buy a ticket for domestic flights

    US domestic flight market is fortunate to have the competition and infrastructure in place where the vast majority of the travelling public can do so economically and efficiently. Personally I'm thrilled to have various options for alternate airports to the tour destinations available that are best suited for my specific flight preferences and for the points levels I'm pleased to redeem. Flying across Canada is quite expensive.
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,597
    100 Pacer said:
    Weston1283 said:
    just_one said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    just_one said:
    pjl44 said:
    I'd like to point out that said management is, if not endorsing, at least allowing an early look at this tour info on their official message board. It would be very easy for them to delete any and all posts with credible info leaked. The alternative is straight radio silence until an official announcement so pick what you want. (I like this scenario.)
    i also like it but something has changed in the way they announce tours and to fans that travel it sucks to have things announced so late
    How much time do you need to make travel plans? Honest question.  
    usually 6-7 months for flights is pretty good. the closer u get , the more expensive flights become.

    the way they used to announce (europe in december) was perfect because the flights were very affordable and it was the end of the year as flights among other things always get more expensive when a new year starts.
    I can only speak for Domestic flights in the USA, but flights tend to start out very high, then continue to drop until the 2 month or so mark, and then go up again as the day gets closer

    I think I read somewhere that someone ran the numbers, and 56 days out is actually the cheapest average day to buy a ticket for domestic flights

    US domestic flight market is fortunate to have the competition and infrastructure in place where the vast majority of the travelling public can do so economically and efficiently. Personally I'm thrilled to have various options for alternate airports to the tour destinations available that are best suited for my specific flight preferences and for the points levels I'm pleased to redeem. Flying across Canada is quite expensive.

    Amtrak an option for some of the September dates as well.
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  • Vitalogensia
    Vitalogensia Posts: 2,196
    If it came down to it, I'd happily pay money to not have to see DMB again.  
  • Jamer196
    Jamer196 Posts: 387
    edited January 2024
    Kwieneke said:
    PJNB said:
    GhostChile said:
    Weston1283 said:
    GhostChile said:
    Dont forget that "we" are like 100 persons that are really interested in knowing the dates before the anouncement.
    95% of the public that attend shows are normal people who will be happy to see the oficial anouncement and buy the tickets. Like we do with the other bands.

    So we are really not important.
    I have often wondered lately if they have allowed the leaks to some degree as a favor to the 10c members. 

    The only ones hearing or caring about the leaked dates are the die hards on Facebook and these forums, so leaks dont really impact their marketing when it comes to the masses.  And the only people who need to know well ahead of time are those who travel to multiple shows.  
    Exactly, and those who travel to multiple shows are what? 50? 100? being generous.

    I've been there for s couple of tours, and yes, is true that you can see similar faces at airports and so. Even when that number seems high when you are there, is not really relevant into the band planning process. 

    As far as for us, the excuse of booking hotels and flights at better prices seems a little lie to cover the real reason for threads like this: the anxiety. 

    So my dear crazy friends, relax and please dont use words like "frustration" to refer to this issue. Really, use some perspective.
    While the travelling fan is definitely in the minority when it comes to shows you are severely underestimating how many of them there are and I am not sure why.  When the band postponed for covid they took into account the traveling fan into their reason to continue to push it off while others where playing in 2021. They made this comment for less than 50 people? No way. 

    Also you are missing the point on booking hotels and flights for better prices. That is what triggers the anxiety. I have no clue what you are talking about with people using that reason as an excuse. People get impatient and want to book. Thats where most of the complaining in this thread comes from. 
    50-100 is extremely low 
    Here only at my home we are 4 traveling since 2020 and 2 before that… we all have seen PJ more times away than at home, in fact my kids have seen 7 times PJ live and all of them abroad, none of them in Portugal…we have seen lots of same faces in different places, so I would say way more of than that
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  • gotthebottle
    gotthebottle San Diego Posts: 3,736
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    Poncier said:
    JimmyV said:
    DMB Jealousy Day 2024. A shorter run this year means no Hartford, but still nine shows between New Hampshire and Camden.

    May be an image of text


    Dave does not share PJ's affinity for California apparently.
    We don't need him!
    AGREE...
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,597
    edited January 2024
    Hotels around the arena in St. Paul were packed last fall. It wasn't 50-100 people filling them up. Ours was also filled the next night for Green Day. Traveling to shows might be more common and than you think.
    Post edited by JimmyV on
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  • Kwieneke
    Kwieneke Indiana Posts: 2,103
    every other person I talked to in Chicago last year was either coming from St. Paul shows or going to the Indy show. its a big number 
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,813
    Many locals going to shows are likely attending straight from work or home, increasing the likelihood traveling fans might not interact with them. R/showerthoughts 
  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,321
    JimmyV said:
    Hotels around the arena in St. Paul were packed last fall. It wasn't 50-100 people filling them up. Ours was also filled the next night for Green Day. Traveling to shows might be more common and than you think.
    That Holiday Inn couldn’t have been better situated.
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

    1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore - 2025: Hollywood X2, Atlanta 2, Nashville X2, Pittsburgh X2
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,521
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Many locals going to shows are likely attending straight from work or home, increasing the likelihood traveling fans might not interact with them. R/showerthoughts 
    "Everyone I talked to about Pearl Jam on the airplane was coming from out of town"
  • Williston
    Williston Minnesota Posts: 115
    100 Pacer said:
    JimmyV said:
    Hotels around the arena in St. Paul were packed last fall. It wasn't 50-100 people filling them up. Ours was also filled the next night for Green Day. Traveling to shows might be more common and than you think.
    That Holiday Inn couldn’t have been better situated.
    @JimmyV and because of the leaks i was able to get 3 nights for $240
  • Williston
    Williston Minnesota Posts: 115
    100 Pacer said:
    JimmyV said:
    Hotels around the arena in St. Paul were packed last fall. It wasn't 50-100 people filling them up. Ours was also filled the next night for Green Day. Traveling to shows might be more common and than you think.
    That Holiday Inn couldn’t have been better situated.
    @100 Pacer and because of the leaks i was able to get 3 nights for $240
  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,063
    100 Pacer said:
    JimmyV said:
    Hotels around the arena in St. Paul were packed last fall. It wasn't 50-100 people filling them up. Ours was also filled the next night for Green Day. Traveling to shows might be more common and than you think.
    That Holiday Inn couldn’t have been better situated.
    That was fun. I felt like I was in a college dorm, knowing everyone on my floor. It was by far my favorite hotel experience - and it being a 3 minute walk to the venue was the icing on the cake. The after parties at the bar were great as well.

  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,938
    I thought the 50-100 number being cited was referring to the people on this board who are paying attention to this.

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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,205
    The less people that travel to MSG the better. It’s overrated and the shows never live up to the hype. Stay away 
  • High Fidelity 2000
    High Fidelity 2000 New Mexico USA Posts: 4,439
    ComeToTX said:
    I rarely meet people who haven't traveled from somewhere.
    Same here. The reason for that is probably because they regularly refuse to play in about 40+ out of 50 states year after year. lol
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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,938
    nicknyr15 said:
    The less people that travel to MSG the better. It’s overrated and the shows never live up to the hype. Stay away 
    Agreed. I've seen eight PJ MSG shows, and I'm fascinated by the mythology that surrounds these shows. Per capita, Pearl Jam shows in San Diego and Phoenix that I've seen have been better than the ones at MSG.
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • Jamer196
    Jamer196 Posts: 387
    BF25394 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    The less people that travel to MSG the better. It’s overrated and the shows never live up to the hype. Stay away 
    Agreed. I've seen eight PJ MSG shows, and I'm fascinated by the mythology that surrounds these shows. Per capita, Pearl Jam shows in San Diego and Phoenix that I've seen have been better than the ones at MSG.
    Yes I have been there, totally overrated, beer to expensive.
    Stay away at all cost!!!
    😉
  • estarr31
    estarr31 Posts: 628
    Jamer196 said:
    BF25394 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    The less people that travel to MSG the better. It’s overrated and the shows never live up to the hype. Stay away 
    Agreed. I've seen eight PJ MSG shows, and I'm fascinated by the mythology that surrounds these shows. Per capita, Pearl Jam shows in San Diego and Phoenix that I've seen have been better than the ones at MSG.
    Yes I have been there, totally overrated, beer to expensive.
    Stay away at all cost!!!
    😉
    no public transit, hotels are too expensive. bad vibes. 
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,597
    The crowd at MSG in 2022 was incredible but the show itself was only good/very good, IMO. I've seen better and had more fun elsewhere.
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