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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,010
    i am not seeing how christie voters will end up supporting haley in the end. christie attracts a certain kind of voter. haley says slavery was not a major factor in the civil war. i have a very hard time believing that anybody hardcore in the christie camp would vote for such a person. i think they are more likely to stay home.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i am not seeing how christie voters will end up supporting haley in the end. christie attracts a certain kind of voter. haley says slavery was not a major factor in the civil war. i have a very hard time believing that anybody hardcore in the christie camp would vote for such a person. i think they are more likely to stay home.
    I'm thinking they will only because it's an anti-tRump vote. At least in the primary.
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  • The Juggler
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    Gern Blansten said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i am not seeing how christie voters will end up supporting haley in the end. christie attracts a certain kind of voter. haley says slavery was not a major factor in the civil war. i have a very hard time believing that anybody hardcore in the christie camp would vote for such a person. i think they are more likely to stay home.
    I'm thinking they will only because it's an anti-tRump vote. At least in the primary.
    Agreed
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,809
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i am not seeing how christie voters will end up supporting haley in the end. christie attracts a certain kind of voter. haley says slavery was not a major factor in the civil war. i have a very hard time believing that anybody hardcore in the christie camp would vote for such a person. i think they are more likely to stay home.
    The Haley/Slavery issue is just one of the reasons I hate the primaries.  In order to win the primaries you have to cater to the fringe....and then in order to win the general election you need the middle.  
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,010
    cincybearcat said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i am not seeing how christie voters will end up supporting haley in the end. christie attracts a certain kind of voter. haley says slavery was not a major factor in the civil war. i have a very hard time believing that anybody hardcore in the christie camp would vote for such a person. i think they are more likely to stay home.
    The Haley/Slavery issue is just one of the reasons I hate the primaries.  In order to win the primaries you have to cater to the fringe....and then in order to win the general election you need the middle.  
    i think she kind of lost the middle to this point in the primaries. its still 10 months out, but i still think it is trump's nomination to lose. and even if he stays off of the ballot in colorado and maine he still gets the nom.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,809
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i am not seeing how christie voters will end up supporting haley in the end. christie attracts a certain kind of voter. haley says slavery was not a major factor in the civil war. i have a very hard time believing that anybody hardcore in the christie camp would vote for such a person. i think they are more likely to stay home.
    The Haley/Slavery issue is just one of the reasons I hate the primaries.  In order to win the primaries you have to cater to the fringe....and then in order to win the general election you need the middle.  
    i think she kind of lost the middle to this point in the primaries. its still 10 months out, but i still think it is trump's nomination to lose. and even if he stays off of the ballot in colorado and maine he still gets the nom.
    You are most likely correct. Sad state of affairs. The damage done to this party has been catastrophic 
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,537
    cincybearcat said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i am not seeing how christie voters will end up supporting haley in the end. christie attracts a certain kind of voter. haley says slavery was not a major factor in the civil war. i have a very hard time believing that anybody hardcore in the christie camp would vote for such a person. i think they are more likely to stay home.
    The Haley/Slavery issue is just one of the reasons I hate the primaries.  In order to win the primaries you have to cater to the fringe....and then in order to win the general election you need the middle.  
    The primaries are stupid, and this just gets highlighted by starting with Iowa and New Hampshire. NH is such an oddball political outlier where Haley et al. know she may be Trump if they’re head to head. Then if she does win, all the media will drive the point that Trump is beatable. 
  • mickeyrat
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  • The Juggler
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,306

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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,010
    cincybearcat said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i am not seeing how christie voters will end up supporting haley in the end. christie attracts a certain kind of voter. haley says slavery was not a major factor in the civil war. i have a very hard time believing that anybody hardcore in the christie camp would vote for such a person. i think they are more likely to stay home.
    The Haley/Slavery issue is just one of the reasons I hate the primaries.  In order to win the primaries you have to cater to the fringe....and then in order to win the general election you need the middle.  
    i think she kind of lost the middle to this point in the primaries. its still 10 months out, but i still think it is trump's nomination to lose. and even if he stays off of the ballot in colorado and maine he still gets the nom.
    You are most likely correct. Sad state of affairs. The damage done to this party has been catastrophic 
    catastrophic is a good word for it. there needs to be two viable parties in a two party system. one party of unserious people with an unserious platform is just brutal for our system of government.

    i never thought i would see the day that the grand old party would become what it is. my grandfather is probably rolling over in his grave.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,010
    Go Beavers said:
    cincybearcat said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i am not seeing how christie voters will end up supporting haley in the end. christie attracts a certain kind of voter. haley says slavery was not a major factor in the civil war. i have a very hard time believing that anybody hardcore in the christie camp would vote for such a person. i think they are more likely to stay home.
    The Haley/Slavery issue is just one of the reasons I hate the primaries.  In order to win the primaries you have to cater to the fringe....and then in order to win the general election you need the middle.  
    The primaries are stupid, and this just gets highlighted by starting with Iowa and New Hampshire. NH is such an oddball political outlier where Haley et al. know she may be Trump if they’re head to head. Then if she does win, all the media will drive the point that Trump is beatable. 
    if we must go through the primary process, the least we could do is make a different state the first primary every primary season.

    i hate the fact that a bunch of candidates have to spend 2 months in iowa trying to get votes from a bunch of people that are not representative of the majority of the country. imagine all the time and money that gets wasted for 30% of candidates that do not make it out of iowa.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Leezestarr313
    Leezestarr313 Temple of the cat Posts: 14,441
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Go Beavers said:
    cincybearcat said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i am not seeing how christie voters will end up supporting haley in the end. christie attracts a certain kind of voter. haley says slavery was not a major factor in the civil war. i have a very hard time believing that anybody hardcore in the christie camp would vote for such a person. i think they are more likely to stay home.
    The Haley/Slavery issue is just one of the reasons I hate the primaries.  In order to win the primaries you have to cater to the fringe....and then in order to win the general election you need the middle.  
    The primaries are stupid, and this just gets highlighted by starting with Iowa and New Hampshire. NH is such an oddball political outlier where Haley et al. know she may be Trump if they’re head to head. Then if she does win, all the media will drive the point that Trump is beatable. 
    if we must go through the primary process, the least we could do is make a different state the first primary every primary season.

    i hate the fact that a bunch of candidates have to spend 2 months in iowa trying to get votes from a bunch of people that are not representative of the majority of the country. imagine all the time and money that gets wasted for 30% of candidates that do not make it out of iowa.

    In general I find it a sad state of affairs that elections have to be such a money game. Elections are so much more stress-free in other countries.
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  • mickeyrat
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,306

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    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,306

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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,306

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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,306

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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 41,995
    mickeyrat said:

    Imagine living in a state with a governor like that? Well, pretty soon it’ll be a nation with a POTUS like that.
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    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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