News and What's New in AI

brianlux
brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,859
edited July 20 in A Moving Train
We tinker with our fate. 

A.I., what could go wrong?  Plenty.


MIT Scientists Unveil First Psychopath AI, 'Norman'

Scientists at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology unveiled the first artificial intelligence algorithm trained to be a psychopath. The AI was fittingly dubbed "Norman" after Norman Bates, the notorious killer in Alfred Hitchcock's Psycho.

We may be on the verge of creating a new life form, one that could mark not only an evolutionary breakthrough, but a potential threat to our survival as a species

MIT scientists Pinar Yanardag, Manuel Cebrian and Iyad Rahwan trained Norman to perform image captioning, "a deep learning method" that allows AI to generate text descriptions for images. However, the team exclusively exposed Norman to violent and disturbing images posted on a subreddit dedicated to death.

They then gave Norman a Rorschach inkblot test and the AI responded with chilling interpretations such as, "a man is electrocuted and catches to death," "pregnant woman falls at construction" and "man is shot dead in front of his screaming wife." Meanwhile, a standard AI responded to the same inkblots with, "a close up of a vase with flowers," "a couple of people standing next to each other" and "a person is holding an umbrella in the air."

While Norman may conjure dystopian images of killer robots, the MIT team said the purpose of the experiment was to prove that AI algorithms aren't inherently biased, but that data input methods – and the people inputting that data – can significantly alter an AI's behavior. As Newsweek pointed out, there have been several notable cases where racism and bias have crept into machine learning, like the Google Photos image recognition algorithm that was classifying black people as "gorillas."




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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,989
    It's like they never heard of the Terminator. :/


    Falling down,...not staying down
  • PJinIL
    PJinIL satan's bed Posts: 441
    This is such a cool thing, but scary at the same time. I have no concerns for robot takeover of the world or anything, but these things are only as reliable as the people programming them, as the article suggests. The scary part to me is how it could make society (in the US at least) even more lazy and reliant on machines. But, we'll have more scapegoats! 
    It's amazing what you hear when you take time to listen.
  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,965
    ^ Americans lazier than we are today? Impossible. ;) 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,859
    Kat said:
    It's like they never heard of the Terminator. :/


    LOL

    Or this guy:


    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,390
    bbiggs said:
    ^ Americans lazier than we are today? Impossible. ;) 
    lol 
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Cannot think of any way this could go wrong...West World anyone?
    https://motherboard.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/xwm5mk/mit-psychotic-ai-rehabilitation

  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Posts: 40,336
    https://us.cnn.com/videos/tech/2023/11/04/smr-ai-nudes-of-hs-students.cnn

    disgusting. I hate the fact that there are parents out there that excuse this behaviour away as "youthful transgressions". Sounds like a Brett Kavanaugh type thing. charge him/them. 
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,859
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    https://us.cnn.com/videos/tech/2023/11/04/smr-ai-nudes-of-hs-students.cnn

    disgusting. I hate the fact that there are parents out there that excuse this behaviour away as "youthful transgressions". Sounds like a Brett Kavanaugh type thing. charge him/them. 

    Any parent that is OK with their kid doing that is just as guilty and should be charged as such.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 42,280
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    https://us.cnn.com/videos/tech/2023/11/04/smr-ai-nudes-of-hs-students.cnn

    disgusting. I hate the fact that there are parents out there that excuse this behaviour away as "youthful transgressions". Sounds like a Brett Kavanaugh type thing. charge him/them. 
    They've been doing Photoshop nudes for years.  This is Child pornography though.

    I tell you kids these days have a lot to worry about.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 45,672
    because human "intelligence" created it?

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  • justam
    justam Posts: 21,415
    Artificial Intelligence helped re-create the last Beatles song Now and Then.  I heard it for the first time tonight and I have to admit that I liked it. (!) It wasn't a great song, but it was still Lennon singing and it reminded me why the Big 4 were so good.

    The idea of Artificial intelligence in general seems frightening though because I think it seems like letting a huge cat out of a bag and the animal's behavior can't truly be anticipated or stopped later.  Once it is out, it is out!

    So many sci-fi novels and movies are based on A.I. running amuck.

    (Or, that sad movie about the artificial child who was abandoned but lived on searching for the person who originally owned him.  That story made me cry...  It was a story about humans abusing robots with artificial intelligence who were made to feel attached to their human purchasers. Another example of humans using other creatures as disposable pets...)

    But, we have another Beatles song. Maybe I'm just being a worried older person?
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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,268
    justam said:
    Artificial Intelligence helped re-create the last Beatles song Now and Then.  I heard it for the first time tonight and I have to admit that I liked it. (!) It wasn't a great song, but it was still Lennon singing and it reminded me why the Big 4 were so good.

    The idea of Artificial intelligence in general seems frightening though because I think it seems like letting a huge cat out of a bag and the animal's behavior can't truly be anticipated or stopped later.  Once it is out, it is out!

    So many sci-fi novels and movies are based on A.I. running amuck.

    (Or, that sad movie about the artificial child who was abandoned but lived on searching for the person who originally owned him.  That story made me cry...  It was a story about humans abusing robots with artificial intelligence who were made to feel attached to their human purchasers. Another example of humans using other creatures as disposable pets...)

    But, we have another Beatles song. Maybe I'm just being a worried older person?
    That isn't a Beatles song.  It's a John Lennon song that somehow got trotted out of the crypt and played on by other musicians that were once in the Beatles and somehow had the other dead  former Beatle's guitar part added to it.  That is like a feather on the scale of good when it comes to AI.  In 1000 years people will maybe know what hey Jude is, but no one will ever look to the greatness of whatever commercially viable technological trick Now and Then is.
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,090
    My dad's name is Norman. We tease him all the time, any character named "Norman" in a movie is always a phsyco. 
    Now its even in AI
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,313
    Former Google CEO Eric Schmidt: AI guardrails "aren't enough" (axios.com)

    You've got five years at most to live a good life, and then AI takes over.  
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,859
    Thankfully, there are efforts like this being taken.  We would do well to support these efforts.

    US, Britain, other countries ink agreement to make AI 'secure by design'

    November 27, 20236:57 PM PSTUpdated 15 hours ago

    WASHINGTON, Nov 27 (Reuters) - The United States, Britain and more than a dozen other countries on Sunday unveiled what a senior U.S. official described as the first detailed international agreement on how to keep artificial intelligence safe from rogue actors, pushing for companies to create AI systems that are "secure by design."

    In a 20-page document unveiled Sunday, the 18 countries agreed that companies designing and using AI need to develop and deploy it in a way that keeps customers and the wider public safe from misuse.



    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 42,280
    bootlegger10 said:
    Former Google CEO Eric Schmidt: AI guardrails "aren't enough" (axios.com)

    You've got five years at most to live a good life, and then AI takes over.  
    brianlux said:
    Thankfully, there are efforts like this being taken.  We would do well to support these efforts.

    US, Britain, other countries ink agreement to make AI 'secure by design'

    November 27, 20236:57 PM PSTUpdated 15 hours ago

    WASHINGTON, Nov 27 (Reuters) - The United States, Britain and more than a dozen other countries on Sunday unveiled what a senior U.S. official described as the first detailed international agreement on how to keep artificial intelligence safe from rogue actors, pushing for companies to create AI systems that are "secure by design."

    In a 20-page document unveiled Sunday, the 18 countries agreed that companies designing and using AI need to develop and deploy it in a way that keeps customers and the wider public safe from misuse.



    This is the beginning of the end, seriously.  Every company is going to force this down our throats whether we like it or not.  "It's the future"
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,268
    tempo_n_groove said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    Former Google CEO Eric Schmidt: AI guardrails "aren't enough" (axios.com)

    You've got five years at most to live a good life, and then AI takes over.  
    brianlux said:
    Thankfully, there are efforts like this being taken.  We would do well to support these efforts.

    US, Britain, other countries ink agreement to make AI 'secure by design'

    November 27, 20236:57 PM PSTUpdated 15 hours ago

    WASHINGTON, Nov 27 (Reuters) - The United States, Britain and more than a dozen other countries on Sunday unveiled what a senior U.S. official described as the first detailed international agreement on how to keep artificial intelligence safe from rogue actors, pushing for companies to create AI systems that are "secure by design."

    In a 20-page document unveiled Sunday, the 18 countries agreed that companies designing and using AI need to develop and deploy it in a way that keeps customers and the wider public safe from misuse.



    This is the beginning of the end, seriously.  Every company is going to force this down our throats whether we like it or not.  "It's the future"
    it's what the consumers want... just like every other pile of crap we have been force fed and turned into a ubiquitous part of our lives that we couldn't do without.
    Scio me nihil scire

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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 42,280
    static111 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    Former Google CEO Eric Schmidt: AI guardrails "aren't enough" (axios.com)

    You've got five years at most to live a good life, and then AI takes over.  
    brianlux said:
    Thankfully, there are efforts like this being taken.  We would do well to support these efforts.

    US, Britain, other countries ink agreement to make AI 'secure by design'

    November 27, 20236:57 PM PSTUpdated 15 hours ago

    WASHINGTON, Nov 27 (Reuters) - The United States, Britain and more than a dozen other countries on Sunday unveiled what a senior U.S. official described as the first detailed international agreement on how to keep artificial intelligence safe from rogue actors, pushing for companies to create AI systems that are "secure by design."

    In a 20-page document unveiled Sunday, the 18 countries agreed that companies designing and using AI need to develop and deploy it in a way that keeps customers and the wider public safe from misuse.



    This is the beginning of the end, seriously.  Every company is going to force this down our throats whether we like it or not.  "It's the future"
    it's what the consumers want... just like every other pile of crap we have been force fed and turned into a ubiquitous part of our lives that we couldn't do without.
    Consumers ACTUALLY want this crap?  Really?  Or is it something that companies put a shit ton of money into and are saying "you want/need this" ?

    I look at this like NFT's and EVERYBODY wants it at first but....

    You k ow what?  If I wanted to be lazy and use it for homework or music writing, art even, then I guess if I didn't or couldn't be creative enough then I would like it.

    I think a lot of peoples jobs are gonna be gone fromn this, lol.
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,448
    tempo_n_groove said:
    static111 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    Former Google CEO Eric Schmidt: AI guardrails "aren't enough" (axios.com)

    You've got five years at most to live a good life, and then AI takes over.  
    brianlux said:
    Thankfully, there are efforts like this being taken.  We would do well to support these efforts.

    US, Britain, other countries ink agreement to make AI 'secure by design'

    November 27, 20236:57 PM PSTUpdated 15 hours ago

    WASHINGTON, Nov 27 (Reuters) - The United States, Britain and more than a dozen other countries on Sunday unveiled what a senior U.S. official described as the first detailed international agreement on how to keep artificial intelligence safe from rogue actors, pushing for companies to create AI systems that are "secure by design."

    In a 20-page document unveiled Sunday, the 18 countries agreed that companies designing and using AI need to develop and deploy it in a way that keeps customers and the wider public safe from misuse.



    This is the beginning of the end, seriously.  Every company is going to force this down our throats whether we like it or not.  "It's the future"
    it's what the consumers want... just like every other pile of crap we have been force fed and turned into a ubiquitous part of our lives that we couldn't do without.
    Consumers ACTUALLY want this crap?  Really?  Or is it something that companies put a shit ton of money into and are saying "you want/need this" ?

    I look at this like NFT's and EVERYBODY wants it at first but....

    You k ow what?  If I wanted to be lazy and use it for homework or music writing, art even, then I guess if I didn't or couldn't be creative enough then I would like it.

    I think a lot of peoples jobs are gonna be gone fromn this, lol.
    I'm not sure how much you've used ChatGPT, but I've done the following with it in the past month alone:

    -prepared food based on its recipes (after telling it what I have in stock)
    -built project plans and had it provide constructive criticism on what elements are missing/confusing
    -provided details of a bluegrass song and had it propose some interesting chord substitutions based on proper music theory for the genre
    -successfully had it write Python programming based on providing it details of what I'm trying to accomplish, as well as code explanations (note that I can not write quality Python code myself) 
    -requested it to interview me and then produce a job description based on the conversation, as well as a proposal for an onboarding roadmap
    -learned statistics about the proportionality of Congress switching leadership as the President does/doesn't change historically

    None of these ventures will eliminate a job, but all of them increase abilities as an employee/individual, which is wonderful. It's absolutely a can of worms being opened up, but there are positive use cases like the ones I mentioned above. Users of AI aren't necessarily lazy, uninspired, or seeking an opportunity to plagiarize, and some of these cases are notably uncomplicated in their usefulness.
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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,268
    edited November 2023
    tempo_n_groove said:
    static111 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    Former Google CEO Eric Schmidt: AI guardrails "aren't enough" (axios.com)

    You've got five years at most to live a good life, and then AI takes over.  
    brianlux said:
    Thankfully, there are efforts like this being taken.  We would do well to support these efforts.

    US, Britain, other countries ink agreement to make AI 'secure by design'

    November 27, 20236:57 PM PSTUpdated 15 hours ago

    WASHINGTON, Nov 27 (Reuters) - The United States, Britain and more than a dozen other countries on Sunday unveiled what a senior U.S. official described as the first detailed international agreement on how to keep artificial intelligence safe from rogue actors, pushing for companies to create AI systems that are "secure by design."

    In a 20-page document unveiled Sunday, the 18 countries agreed that companies designing and using AI need to develop and deploy it in a way that keeps customers and the wider public safe from misuse.



    This is the beginning of the end, seriously.  Every company is going to force this down our throats whether we like it or not.  "It's the future"
    it's what the consumers want... just like every other pile of crap we have been force fed and turned into a ubiquitous part of our lives that we couldn't do without.
    Consumers ACTUALLY want this crap?  Really?  Or is it something that companies put a shit ton of money into and are saying "you want/need this" ?

    I look at this like NFT's and EVERYBODY wants it at first but....

    You k ow what?  If I wanted to be lazy and use it for homework or music writing, art even, then I guess if I didn't or couldn't be creative enough then I would like it.

    I think a lot of peoples jobs are gonna be gone fromn this, lol.
    That's what the defense is for every bad decision.  Shipping jobs overseas...consumers want lower prices. Not investing in clean energy r&d earlier, consumers wanted cheap fuel etc. No matter what it always gets blamed on people that have no alternatives and have to purchase what they need to function in capitalism amongst the available offerings.
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