Awful and fatal Hockey accident in UK Elite League

MayDay10 · November 2023

mace1229 said:

I was curious if it ever happened before and read this: "In 1989, Buffalo goaltender Clint Malarchuk's neck was sliced open by a skate during a game and in 2008 it happened to Florida forward Richard Zednik. Both got immediate help from trainers and medical personnel and both returned to the game they loved."

So it's happened 3 times in over 30 years. Still very rare, but not one of those "will probably never happen again" scenarios. Maybe a neck guard is needed.

Yes, both happened in Buffalo.
True story with Malarchuk. His entire story is pretty wild. Became cripplingly OCD post-accident. Tried committing suicide a few times, shot himself in the head. But then found purpose in reaching out and helping others fighting similar issues and it has given him a reason to continue.

In the OHL, I saw a goalie lose his glove in a scramble and someone stepped on his wrist. Blood was spurting out of his wrist against his glass to the beat of his heart. Was pretty nuts.

As far as an arrest in this case? Im not sure what the manslaughter law(s) are there and how they would fit in with this incident. I have heard people say/wonder if it was intentional looking at the slow-mo replay. I saw it, and I have to doubt it was intentional. Of course in super slow it looks worse. In real time there is no way the player could calculate and move his skate in the 'correct' (killing) position. It was just a super unfortunate freak accident.

PJ_Soul · November 2023

Manslaughter wouldn't suggest that the guy intentionally slashed his neck. It would likely basically mean he's guilty of not taking proper care with his deliberate/intentional movements without intention to kill, considering the fact that he has a razor on his foot and people within kicking distance. It's like driving drunk. You don't set out to kill someone, but if you do, you're still responsible for your decision-making that lead to the death. So not really an accident. Bad choices. That said, I think the player's defense would have a good chance of winning the case and him being found not guilty of manslaughter. It's too hard to tell how intentional the movement was versus how much momentum had to do with it.

beano.79 · November 2023

MayDay10 said:

mace1229 said:

I was curious if it ever happened before and read this: "In 1989, Buffalo goaltender Clint Malarchuk's neck was sliced open by a skate during a game and in 2008 it happened to Florida forward Richard Zednik. Both got immediate help from trainers and medical personnel and both returned to the game they loved."

So it's happened 3 times in over 30 years. Still very rare, but not one of those "will probably never happen again" scenarios. Maybe a neck guard is needed.

Yes, both happened in Buffalo.
True story with Malarchuk. His entire story is pretty wild. Became cripplingly OCD post-accident. Tried committing suicide a few times, shot himself in the head. But then found purpose in reaching out and helping others fighting similar issues and it has given him a reason to continue.

In the OHL, I saw a goalie lose his glove in a scramble and someone stepped on his wrist. Blood was spurting out of his wrist against his glass to the beat of his heart. Was pretty nuts.

As far as an arrest in this case? Im not sure what the manslaughter law(s) are there and how they would fit in with this incident. I have heard people say/wonder if it was intentional looking at the slow-mo replay. I saw it, and I have to doubt it was intentional. Of course in super slow it looks worse. In real time there is no way the player could calculate and move his skate in the 'correct' (killing) position. It was just a super unfortunate freak accident.

So manslaughter here is basically somebody causing the death of someone without having the intention to do so. And example would be pushing somebody to the ground, they bang their head a die of head injuries. You caused their death. The sentence is more lenient than murder ofcourse but can still carry 10 years I think.

PureandEasy · November 2023

mace1229 said:

I was curious if it ever happened before and read this: "In 1989, Buffalo goaltender Clint Malarchuk's neck was sliced open by a skate during a game and in 2008 it happened to Florida forward Richard Zednik. Both got immediate help from trainers and medical personnel and both returned to the game they loved."

So it's happened 3 times in over 30 years. Still very rare, but not one of those "will probably never happen again" scenarios. Maybe a neck guard is needed.

I remember when it happened to the goaltender, trainer saved his life. Hit the jugular and you will bleed out with every beat of your heart. So sad to hear this happened again with fatal consequences.

1ThoughtKnown · November 2023

PureandEasy said:

mace1229 said:

I was curious if it ever happened before and read this: "In 1989, Buffalo goaltender Clint Malarchuk's neck was sliced open by a skate during a game and in 2008 it happened to Florida forward Richard Zednik. Both got immediate help from trainers and medical personnel and both returned to the game they loved."

So it's happened 3 times in over 30 years. Still very rare, but not one of those "will probably never happen again" scenarios. Maybe a neck guard is needed.

I remember when it happened to the goaltender, trainer saved his life. Hit the jugular and you will bleed out with every beat of your heart. So sad to hear this happened again with fatal consequences.

I’ll never forget those replays. Clint’s book is a real page turner, a must read for any hockey fan in my opinion. More information here:
https://malarchuk.com/book

As for the incident in England, it sure looks like Petgave intentionally stuck his leg out as the deceased had a clear lane to the slot for a grade A chance. It is doubtful he meant to let his leg to fly up that high, but it was very reckless. Having played hockey competitively or recreationally most of my life, I find it hard to believe that this “just happened”. It was at minimum an intended act to trip up the attacking player.

PureandEasy · November 2023

1ThoughtKnown said:

PureandEasy said:

mace1229 said:

I was curious if it ever happened before and read this: "In 1989, Buffalo goaltender Clint Malarchuk's neck was sliced open by a skate during a game and in 2008 it happened to Florida forward Richard Zednik. Both got immediate help from trainers and medical personnel and both returned to the game they loved."

So it's happened 3 times in over 30 years. Still very rare, but not one of those "will probably never happen again" scenarios. Maybe a neck guard is needed.

I remember when it happened to the goaltender, trainer saved his life. Hit the jugular and you will bleed out with every beat of your heart. So sad to hear this happened again with fatal consequences.

I’ll never forget those replays. Clint’s book is a real page turner, a must read for any hockey fan in my opinion. More information here:
https://malarchuk.com/book

As for the incident in England, it sure looks like Petgave intentionally stuck his leg out as the deceased had a clear lane to the slot for a grade A chance. It is doubtful he meant to let his leg to fly up that high, but it was very reckless. Having played hockey competitively or recreationally most of my life, I find it hard to believe that this “just happened”. It was at minimum an intended act to trip up the attacking player.

thanks for the info; I remember the replays too; shudder

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