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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,829
    edited October 2023
    being the dumbest person doesn't mean you're the worst person.
    You're right, we can have different opinions. Truly pulling that by accident would be dumber than anything MTG said in my opinion. She's still a worse person though. No one has debated that.

    I don't understand why his party is pretending to believe his story. Calling him out for his selflessness would be a better look I think. Or maybe they're hoping everyone buys that story? It looks like some here weren't aware of the actual door and all the signage. I was curious, googled "congressman fire alarm" and tons of pictures and stories popped up. No way I was believing it was an accident after that. 
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,776
    mace1229 said:
    being the dumbest person doesn't mean you're the worst person.
    You're right, we can have different opinions. Truly pulling that by accident would be dumber than anything MTG said in my opinion. She's still a worse person though. No one has debated that.

    I don't understand why his party is pretending to believe his story. Calling him out for his selflessness would be a better look I think. Or maybe they're hoping everyone buys that story? It looks like some here weren't aware of the actual door and all the signage. I was curious, googled "congressman fire alarm" and tons of pictures and stories popped up. No way I was believing it was an accident after that. 
    I'm with you... I don't understand why people are pretending to believe his story... just like I don't understand why people insist on trying to normalize MTG. 
  • Wow, the biggest outrage on Capitol Hill appears to be a dem pulling a fire alarm and lying about it? Not the Kevie drama? Not the POOTWH trials, plural? And certainly not the crisis on the border? And with George Santaria still in office, to boot? Wow, wish folks would spend this amount of time conducting their own research on the issues that matter. I guess this issue really matters. Can’t have dumb dems in office, I suppose?
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    Wow, the biggest outrage on Capitol Hill appears to be a dem pulling a fire alarm and lying about it? Not the Kevie drama? Not the POOTWH trials, plural? And certainly not the crisis on the border? And with George Santaria still in office, to boot? Wow, wish folks would spend this amount of time conducting their own research on the issues that matter. I guess this issue really matters. Can’t have dumb dems in office, I suppose?
    Fax News strikes again. 
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  • mace1229
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    No one here seems outraged. It's a funny story. Lying about is funny. People seemed to buy into the lie and defend him which was interesting to me.
    There's a whole thread dedicated to trump and the border, no need to discuss it here. The fire alarm isn't worthy of its own thread and it was brought up. 
    What research? It took about 1 minute of google search to realize his version had to be made up.
    I don't want dumb dems or repubs in office. I'd prefer smart people on either side.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,183
    mace1229 said:
    I agree, it was pretty f'ing dumb to pull the alarm & call it an accident. 

    I still don't think it's as dumb as suggesting that global warming is good for humanity though. 

    Any guesses on who made that claim? 
    Let me clarify.
    What he did doesn't make him the dumbest in congress. Clearly a dumb thing to do, I don't understand why democrats are sticking up for him. Call him out, let him be fined or whatever consequences there are, instead of pretending it was an accident.

    What would be the dumbest thing in congress is if you actually did pull that by accident. If you walk by the signs, see the signs on the door, see a red handle labeled "fire" and somehow think it's all an elaborate setup to open an automatic door. That would be the dumbest thing anyone in congress has done. Which, by the way, is what he wants you to believe. He doesn't want to admit it was a lack of judgment and pulled it hoping to unlock the doors, he wants you to believe despite all the signage, he had no idea it was a fire alarm and it was the button to open the doors. That's pretty dumb. And yes, dumber than MTG if you actually believe it.
    I don't know that dems are standing up for him other than saying he didn't intend to delay a vote because it was in a completely separate building.

    Definitely a stupid thing to do.
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  • mrussel1
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    Well I'm glad it only took 49 posts to get this straight.  The House can now function properly. 
  • Well, one side has a shit ton more stupid/dumb, and of more consequence, than the other, led by Exhibit A:

    “The rarely used Executive Law that the N.Y.A.G. is proceeding under is VERY UNFAIR, and being used against me for that reason. NY Executive Law 63 (12) does not require a victim, traditional elements of fraud are eliminated (the only such law!), the law allows a politically elected partisan prosecutor to convince a politically elected judge, who may be friends, to destroy even a Political Opponent,” Trump posted on Truth Social.

    Trump posted, “This law may not be Constitutional and is not FAIR, and that is why terrible A.G. James chose it to use against me!!!” 

    Trump called James a “Monster” and a “Trump Deranged Lunatic.” He called the New York attorney general “Letitia ‘Peekaboo’ James.” 

    “Now that it has been agreed in Court that Mar-a-Lago is WORTH 50 to 100 times the Value the Racist & Incompetent Attorney General of New York State, Letitia “Peekaboo” James, ascribed to it (18 Million Dollars), & likewise other assets that were valued crazily low by this “Monster” that has allowed Violent Crime in New York to reach EPIDEMIC levels, and dangerous illegal migrants to roam free all over our State, we hope the Judge will TERMINATE his first ruling of fraud in that he was given false and ridiculous information by the Trump Deranged Lunatic, A.G. James,” Trump posted

    Trump posted, “In actuality, I am WORTH FAR MORE than the numbers put down on the Financial Statements, not less. In addition, there is a far reaching and professionally drawn Disclaimer Clause boldly stated on the FIRST PAGE OF THE DOCUMENT. This entire case should be thrown out and dismissed. The A.G. should be reprimanded and sanctioned for bringing this case with its FAKE LOW VALUES, in order to make me look bad. Election Interference!”

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  • Merkin Baller
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    Is what Bowman did or said any dumber, less believable, or more problematic than the GOP threatening to shut the government down because they want more accountability for Ukraine spending? 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    it's not a contest. both can be dumb and called out according to their relative dumbness. 
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  • There’s dumb and then there’s MAGA DUMB. At this point, not even dumb is the same.
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  • static111
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    it's not a contest. both can be dumb and called out according to their relative dumbness. 
    Not in America Hugh...We can only measure against Trump and the worst members of congress, anything under that threshold is A OK
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  • cincybearcat
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    There’s dumb and then there’s MAGA DUMB. At this point, not even dumb is the same.
    Pulling a fire alarm to open a door is MAGA dumb 
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  • There’s dumb and then there’s MAGA DUMB. At this point, not even dumb is the same.
    Pulling a fire alarm to open a door is MAGA dumb 
    Your definition of MAGA DUMB and my definition are completely different.
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  • josevolution
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    Yes the dumb ass pulled the fire alarm he should be charged and pay what ever fines are due! And then move on
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,776
    This was an incredibly stupid move by Bowman and he should be prosecuted accordingly. Would this be worthy of censure? I’m sure I don’t know. Is it worthy of expulsion from office… with some of the other characters running around in congress, I would say no, but I guess there’s a sliding scale of acceptable behavior… idk, I don’t understand the rules anymore. (If I ever did at all)

    How it relates to MTG in any way shape or form is also beyond me… idk, it wasn’t me that brought her up in relation to Bowman. While we’re here though, I will say that I find the way some people talk about her very, very odd to say the least. 
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,829
    Yes the dumb ass pulled the fire alarm he should be charged and pay what ever fines are due! And then move on
    He’s partly at fault for the story lingering and those who defend him. His response to people accusing him of doing it on purpose was to call the GOP Nazis. And then other democrats, like AOC, stick up for him and say it was an accident too. That helps keep the story going.
    Dont call people a Nazi for calling you out and don’t have your party back up a total BS story and this does out quicker.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    I was worried that this was no longer a topic that needed to be explored.  Thankfully there's a little blood left in it. 
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,829
    mrussel1 said:
    I was worried that this was no longer a topic that needed to be explored.  Thankfully there's a little blood left in it. 
    I thought you've been here before? We beat things to death....and then give it 1 more round.