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Gotcha.HughFreakingDillon said:I knew I should have said crossed wires "on my part". lol0 -
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No, there's nothing wrong with asking it, but having said that... how much more do we need to see out of the modern day GOP before we accept that they've become a party of extremists?HughFreakingDillon said:
I don't think there's anything wrong with simply asking "did (whichever "team") stuff the bill with other items that (the other "team") legitimately don't believe in?". But in this case, I can't see any justification for voting no.Merkin Baller said:
I wonder if someone from the 'both sides' crowd could explain to me how this is just politics as usual.gimmesometruth27 said:
hawley and schmitt are firebrand prolifers, so of course they are going to support tuberville and maga no matter what.Merkin Baller said:
Do these senators have any justification for voting no... besides trying to cause chaos while Biden is in office, that is?mickeyrat said:
Honest question, because from all appearances the GOP seems intent on running the country into the ground.
How much more do we need to see before people wake up and realize this isn't politics as normal, and no... both sides are not the same?
It's all about MAGA/ the far right basically saying "I want the kitchen to be painted the way I like it or I'll burn the whole goddamn house down". I'm critical of both parties, but the republican party has caved into extremists who don't really have an "agenda" other than stirring the shit for the sake of stirring the shit. Only they are the shit.
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They’ve extended the play book put into place by Moscow Mitchy Baby whereas “our number one priority is to see this administration fail.” Except back then it was a dog whistle but now it’s who they are. Steve O pulls the strings in alignment with Grover Norquist and others, Mikey Flynn, in dismantling the “administrative state.” These folks are dangerous to the constitution and our democratic “norms.”Merkin Baller said:
Do these senators have any justification for voting no... besides trying to cause chaos while Biden is in office, that is?mickeyrat said:
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Aaaaaand this is what I mean if you all think somebody on here is going against dems or for the rep you just eat them alive.Merkin Baller said:
No crossed wires at all... People jump to the defense of the GOP in the face of bad behavior / decisions / votes by crying 'both sides' on a regular basis, and I was genuinely curious if someone who thinks both sides are the same wanted to explain the 'no' votes on this confirmation hearing.HughFreakingDillon said:I do know what a confirmation hearing entails. However, I took Merkin's post to mean the "both sidesing" of stuffing bills, because I've personally never come across a "both sidesing" of confirmation hearings. I think it was a simple case of crossed wires.
All I was doing is sticking up for Hugh but because you THOUGHT I was defending the GOP the questions come...
If somebody has to be defensive then yes, it looks like an attack I'd say. Again, going against the grain here doesn't go well.0 -
It falls along the lines of when Obama was President and all the Reps did was vote no. I believe this is how they got the name the "Do Nothings"Halifax2TheMax said:
They’ve extended the play book put into place by Moscow Mitchy Baby whereas “our number one priority is to see this administration fail.” Except back then it was a dog whistle but now it’s who they are. Steve O pulls the strings in alignment with Grover Norquist and others, Mikey Flynn, in dismantling the “administrative state.” These folks are dangerous to the constitution and our democratic “norms.”Merkin Baller said:
Do these senators have any justification for voting no... besides trying to cause chaos while Biden is in office, that is?mickeyrat said:
Honest question, because from all appearances the GOP seems intent on running the country into the ground.0 -
Totally agree....the old "both sides do it" thing is bullshit now. Sometimes I wish the dems would fight back with similar tactics but to some degree it is impossible if you have any honesty/empathy in your bones.brianlux said:Merkin Baller said:
No, there's nothing wrong with asking it, but having said that... how much more do we need to see out of the modern day GOP before we accept that they've become a party of extremists?HughFreakingDillon said:
I don't think there's anything wrong with simply asking "did (whichever "team") stuff the bill with other items that (the other "team") legitimately don't believe in?". But in this case, I can't see any justification for voting no.Merkin Baller said:
I wonder if someone from the 'both sides' crowd could explain to me how this is just politics as usual.gimmesometruth27 said:
hawley and schmitt are firebrand prolifers, so of course they are going to support tuberville and maga no matter what.Merkin Baller said:
Do these senators have any justification for voting no... besides trying to cause chaos while Biden is in office, that is?mickeyrat said:
Honest question, because from all appearances the GOP seems intent on running the country into the ground.
How much more do we need to see before people wake up and realize this isn't politics as normal, and no... both sides are not the same?
It's all about MAGA/ the far right basically saying "I want the kitchen to be painted the way I like it or I'll burn the whole goddamn house down". I'm critical of both parties, but the republican party has caved into extremists who don't really have an "agenda" other than stirring the shit for the sake of stirring the shit. Only they are the shit.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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just to revisit this comment; I don't know that I see people jumping to the defense of the GOP for those things. What I do see, however, is that whenever I or anyone else criticize the democratic party, it immediately gets met with whataboutism like "how is that worse than what the GOP is doing with (insert GOP evil here)". I wish people could admit that both can be true. Yes, I consider the GOP to be a thousand times worse, but sometimes there are honestly things the D's can be rightfully criticized for without it being dismissed outright just because they are the other side is worse. I have two kids. If I only called out the behaviour of the "worst" kid, and never the one that is usually great but sometimes missteps, what kind of parent would I be?Merkin Baller said:
No crossed wires at all... People jump to the defense of the GOP in the face of bad behavior / decisions / votes by crying 'both sides' on a regular basis, and I was genuinely curious if someone who thinks both sides are the same wanted to explain the 'no' votes on this confirmation hearing.HughFreakingDillon said:I do know what a confirmation hearing entails. However, I took Merkin's post to mean the "both sidesing" of stuffing bills, because I've personally never come across a "both sidesing" of confirmation hearings. I think it was a simple case of crossed wires.
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HughFreakingDillon said:
just to revisit this comment; I don't know that I see people jumping to the defense of the GOP for those things. What I do see, however, is that whenever I or anyone else criticize the democratic party, it immediately gets met with whataboutism like "how is that worse than what the GOP is doing with (insert GOP evil here)". I wish people could admit that both can be true. Yes, I consider the GOP to be a thousand times worse, but sometimes there are honestly things the D's can be rightfully criticized for without it being dismissed outright just because they are the other side is worse. I have two kids. If I only called out the behaviour of the "worst" kid, and never the one that is usually great but sometimes missteps, what kind of parent would I be?Merkin Baller said:
No crossed wires at all... People jump to the defense of the GOP in the face of bad behavior / decisions / votes by crying 'both sides' on a regular basis, and I was genuinely curious if someone who thinks both sides are the same wanted to explain the 'no' votes on this confirmation hearing.HughFreakingDillon said:I do know what a confirmation hearing entails. However, I took Merkin's post to mean the "both sidesing" of stuffing bills, because I've personally never come across a "both sidesing" of confirmation hearings. I think it was a simple case of crossed wires.
You leave either party unchecked for two long, before they long they take liberties you weren't expecting once they have the power you always wished they had.
The democrats have no shortage of issues and problems. No argument there. Having said that, the GOP is actively trying to put a seditious authoritarian back into the white house, so yeah... I'm pretty tired of hearing about both sides.
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Spare me the victimhood... I wasn't talking to or about you here. If I was I would have quoted you.tempo_n_groove said:
Aaaaaand this is what I mean if you all think somebody on here is going against dems or for the rep you just eat them alive.Merkin Baller said:
No crossed wires at all... People jump to the defense of the GOP in the face of bad behavior / decisions / votes by crying 'both sides' on a regular basis, and I was genuinely curious if someone who thinks both sides are the same wanted to explain the 'no' votes on this confirmation hearing.HughFreakingDillon said:I do know what a confirmation hearing entails. However, I took Merkin's post to mean the "both sidesing" of stuffing bills, because I've personally never come across a "both sidesing" of confirmation hearings. I think it was a simple case of crossed wires.
All I was doing is sticking up for Hugh but because you THOUGHT I was defending the GOP the questions come...
If somebody has to be defensive then yes, it looks like an attack I'd say. Again, going against the grain here doesn't go well.0 -
They would say both sides do these theatrics and point out when dems pushed back on confirmations, starting with Robert Bork and moving forward from there.Merkin Baller said:
No crossed wires at all... People jump to the defense of the GOP in the face of bad behavior / decisions / votes by crying 'both sides' on a regular basis, and I was genuinely curious if someone who thinks both sides are the same wanted to explain the 'no' votes on this confirmation hearing.HughFreakingDillon said:I do know what a confirmation hearing entails. However, I took Merkin's post to mean the "both sidesing" of stuffing bills, because I've personally never come across a "both sidesing" of confirmation hearings. I think it was a simple case of crossed wires.0 -
it's not "both sidesing" if it's a criticism independent of anything someone said about the GOP.Merkin Baller said:HughFreakingDillon said:
just to revisit this comment; I don't know that I see people jumping to the defense of the GOP for those things. What I do see, however, is that whenever I or anyone else criticize the democratic party, it immediately gets met with whataboutism like "how is that worse than what the GOP is doing with (insert GOP evil here)". I wish people could admit that both can be true. Yes, I consider the GOP to be a thousand times worse, but sometimes there are honestly things the D's can be rightfully criticized for without it being dismissed outright just because they are the other side is worse. I have two kids. If I only called out the behaviour of the "worst" kid, and never the one that is usually great but sometimes missteps, what kind of parent would I be?Merkin Baller said:
No crossed wires at all... People jump to the defense of the GOP in the face of bad behavior / decisions / votes by crying 'both sides' on a regular basis, and I was genuinely curious if someone who thinks both sides are the same wanted to explain the 'no' votes on this confirmation hearing.HughFreakingDillon said:I do know what a confirmation hearing entails. However, I took Merkin's post to mean the "both sidesing" of stuffing bills, because I've personally never come across a "both sidesing" of confirmation hearings. I think it was a simple case of crossed wires.
You leave either party unchecked for two long, before they long they take liberties you weren't expecting once they have the power you always wished they had.
The democrats have no shortage of issues and problems. No argument there. Having said that, the GOP is actively trying to put a seditious authoritarian back into the white house, so yeah... I'm pretty tired of hearing about both sides.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Defensive? How about “clarifying?” Which occurred. How about this, try making your point as clear as possible before you, you in the general sense, post it? Some of us are really stupid, talking about me, and HFC’s post was in the context of a confirmation vote and not an appropriations vote. The clarification they subsequently made was referring to posts a page or further back. Adding context to a post is not an “attack.” Maybe to you it is? Because the OP feels “defensive.”tempo_n_groove said:
Aaaaaand this is what I mean if you all think somebody on here is going against dems or for the rep you just eat them alive.Merkin Baller said:
No crossed wires at all... People jump to the defense of the GOP in the face of bad behavior / decisions / votes by crying 'both sides' on a regular basis, and I was genuinely curious if someone who thinks both sides are the same wanted to explain the 'no' votes on this confirmation hearing.HughFreakingDillon said:I do know what a confirmation hearing entails. However, I took Merkin's post to mean the "both sidesing" of stuffing bills, because I've personally never come across a "both sidesing" of confirmation hearings. I think it was a simple case of crossed wires.
All I was doing is sticking up for Hugh but because you THOUGHT I was defending the GOP the questions come...
If somebody has to be defensive then yes, it looks like an attack I'd say. Again, going against the grain here doesn't go well.
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Gern Blansten said:
Totally agree....the old "both sides do it" thing is bullshit now. Sometimes I wish the dems would fight back with similar tactics but to some degree it is impossible if you have any honesty/empathy in your bones.brianlux said:Merkin Baller said:
No, there's nothing wrong with asking it, but having said that... how much more do we need to see out of the modern day GOP before we accept that they've become a party of extremists?HughFreakingDillon said:
I don't think there's anything wrong with simply asking "did (whichever "team") stuff the bill with other items that (the other "team") legitimately don't believe in?". But in this case, I can't see any justification for voting no.Merkin Baller said:
I wonder if someone from the 'both sides' crowd could explain to me how this is just politics as usual.gimmesometruth27 said:
hawley and schmitt are firebrand prolifers, so of course they are going to support tuberville and maga no matter what.Merkin Baller said:
Do these senators have any justification for voting no... besides trying to cause chaos while Biden is in office, that is?mickeyrat said:
Honest question, because from all appearances the GOP seems intent on running the country into the ground.
How much more do we need to see before people wake up and realize this isn't politics as normal, and no... both sides are not the same?
It's all about MAGA/ the far right basically saying "I want the kitchen to be painted the way I like it or I'll burn the whole goddamn house down". I'm critical of both parties, but the republican party has caved into extremists who don't really have an "agenda" other than stirring the shit for the sake of stirring the shit. Only they are the shit.
Agreed, fighting back harder sounds right, but how? I don't want to make a big issue of the whole clothes thing, but I don't think showing up to the Senate chamber in gym clothing as a show of rebellion is the way to go. Playing games like middle school children is not what we need. We need tough, decisive action. But again, how? The main fault is the hard right, but the entire party at these higher levels is culpable because none of the Republicans have the balls to step up to the radicals in their party. The whole damn party (with the exception of the fringe Lincoln Project folks) has gone into the shitter and they are making a farce of our political system. It's both disgraceful and disgusting.
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Funny! The right can say the exact same thing about the left. All you have to do is switch out the Rs and replace with Ds. The hypocrisy is SO entertaining. The left are a joke. Absolute joke. Proven daily.brianlux said:Gern Blansten said:
Totally agree....the old "both sides do it" thing is bullshit now. Sometimes I wish the dems would fight back with similar tactics but to some degree it is impossible if you have any honesty/empathy in your bones.brianlux said:Merkin Baller said:
No, there's nothing wrong with asking it, but having said that... how much more do we need to see out of the modern day GOP before we accept that they've become a party of extremists?HughFreakingDillon said:
I don't think there's anything wrong with simply asking "did (whichever "team") stuff the bill with other items that (the other "team") legitimately don't believe in?". But in this case, I can't see any justification for voting no.Merkin Baller said:
I wonder if someone from the 'both sides' crowd could explain to me how this is just politics as usual.gimmesometruth27 said:
hawley and schmitt are firebrand prolifers, so of course they are going to support tuberville and maga no matter what.Merkin Baller said:
Do these senators have any justification for voting no... besides trying to cause chaos while Biden is in office, that is?mickeyrat said:
Honest question, because from all appearances the GOP seems intent on running the country into the ground.
How much more do we need to see before people wake up and realize this isn't politics as normal, and no... both sides are not the same?
It's all about MAGA/ the far right basically saying "I want the kitchen to be painted the way I like it or I'll burn the whole goddamn house down". I'm critical of both parties, but the republican party has caved into extremists who don't really have an "agenda" other than stirring the shit for the sake of stirring the shit. Only they are the shit.
Agreed, fighting back harder sounds right, but how? I don't want to make a big issue of the whole clothes thing, but I don't think showing up to the Senate chamber in gym clothing as a show of rebellion is the way to go. Playing games like middle school children is not what we need. We need tough, decisive action. But again, how? The main fault is the hard right, but the entire party at these higher levels is culpable because none of the Republicans have the balls to step up to the radicals in their party. The whole damn party (with the exception of the fringe Lincoln Project folks) has gone into the shitter and they are making a farce of our political system. It's both disgraceful and disgusting.
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What am I being challenged about? I made a statement. I add context but you still attack it. See how that works? It doesn't. You're always right. That's all. You get called out on stuff al the time and never so you're wrong. You must be Mr Right!Halifax2TheMax said:
Defensive? How about “clarifying?” Which occurred. How about this, try making your point as clear as possible before you, you in the general sense, post it? Some of us are really stupid, talking about me, and HFC’s post was in the context of a confirmation vote and not an appropriations vote. The clarification they subsequently made was referring to posts a page or further back. Adding context to a post is not an “attack.” Maybe to you it is? Because the OP feels “defensive.”tempo_n_groove said:
Aaaaaand this is what I mean if you all think somebody on here is going against dems or for the rep you just eat them alive.Merkin Baller said:
No crossed wires at all... People jump to the defense of the GOP in the face of bad behavior / decisions / votes by crying 'both sides' on a regular basis, and I was genuinely curious if someone who thinks both sides are the same wanted to explain the 'no' votes on this confirmation hearing.HughFreakingDillon said:I do know what a confirmation hearing entails. However, I took Merkin's post to mean the "both sidesing" of stuffing bills, because I've personally never come across a "both sidesing" of confirmation hearings. I think it was a simple case of crossed wires.
All I was doing is sticking up for Hugh but because you THOUGHT I was defending the GOP the questions come...
If somebody has to be defensive then yes, it looks like an attack I'd say. Again, going against the grain here doesn't go well.
Going against the grain here is fine but be prepared to be challenged on your assumptions and to back up your argument or assumptions. It gets hot in the kitchen and if you can’t stand the heat…………0 -
Just proving a point is all.Merkin Baller said:
Spare me the victimhood... I wasn't talking to or about you here. If I was I would have quoted you.tempo_n_groove said:
Aaaaaand this is what I mean if you all think somebody on here is going against dems or for the rep you just eat them alive.Merkin Baller said:
No crossed wires at all... People jump to the defense of the GOP in the face of bad behavior / decisions / votes by crying 'both sides' on a regular basis, and I was genuinely curious if someone who thinks both sides are the same wanted to explain the 'no' votes on this confirmation hearing.HughFreakingDillon said:I do know what a confirmation hearing entails. However, I took Merkin's post to mean the "both sidesing" of stuffing bills, because I've personally never come across a "both sidesing" of confirmation hearings. I think it was a simple case of crossed wires.
All I was doing is sticking up for Hugh but because you THOUGHT I was defending the GOP the questions come...
If somebody has to be defensive then yes, it looks like an attack I'd say. Again, going against the grain here doesn't go well.
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You’re not, in this instance. You claimed another poster was being “attacked.”tempo_n_groove said:
What am I being challenged about? I made a statement. I add context but you still attack it. See how that works? It doesn't. You're always right. That's all. You get called out on stuff al the time and never so you're wrong. You must be Mr Right!Halifax2TheMax said:
Defensive? How about “clarifying?” Which occurred. How about this, try making your point as clear as possible before you, you in the general sense, post it? Some of us are really stupid, talking about me, and HFC’s post was in the context of a confirmation vote and not an appropriations vote. The clarification they subsequently made was referring to posts a page or further back. Adding context to a post is not an “attack.” Maybe to you it is? Because the OP feels “defensive.”tempo_n_groove said:
Aaaaaand this is what I mean if you all think somebody on here is going against dems or for the rep you just eat them alive.Merkin Baller said:
No crossed wires at all... People jump to the defense of the GOP in the face of bad behavior / decisions / votes by crying 'both sides' on a regular basis, and I was genuinely curious if someone who thinks both sides are the same wanted to explain the 'no' votes on this confirmation hearing.HughFreakingDillon said:I do know what a confirmation hearing entails. However, I took Merkin's post to mean the "both sidesing" of stuffing bills, because I've personally never come across a "both sidesing" of confirmation hearings. I think it was a simple case of crossed wires.
All I was doing is sticking up for Hugh but because you THOUGHT I was defending the GOP the questions come...
If somebody has to be defensive then yes, it looks like an attack I'd say. Again, going against the grain here doesn't go well.
Going against the grain here is fine but be prepared to be challenged on your assumptions and to back up your argument or assumptions. It gets hot in the kitchen and if you can’t stand the heat…………It’s true, I get called out all the time and I defend my position(s). I don’t take it as an “attack.” I take it as rigorous debate.Post edited by Halifax2TheMax on09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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they are doing this because trump is telling them to do this. he wants them to burn it all down so he can be the king of the ashes.brianlux said:Merkin Baller said:
No, there's nothing wrong with asking it, but having said that... how much more do we need to see out of the modern day GOP before we accept that they've become a party of extremists?HughFreakingDillon said:
I don't think there's anything wrong with simply asking "did (whichever "team") stuff the bill with other items that (the other "team") legitimately don't believe in?". But in this case, I can't see any justification for voting no.Merkin Baller said:
I wonder if someone from the 'both sides' crowd could explain to me how this is just politics as usual.gimmesometruth27 said:
hawley and schmitt are firebrand prolifers, so of course they are going to support tuberville and maga no matter what.Merkin Baller said:
Do these senators have any justification for voting no... besides trying to cause chaos while Biden is in office, that is?mickeyrat said:
Honest question, because from all appearances the GOP seems intent on running the country into the ground.
How much more do we need to see before people wake up and realize this isn't politics as normal, and no... both sides are not the same?
It's all about MAGA/ the far right basically saying "I want the kitchen to be painted the way I like it or I'll burn the whole goddamn house down". I'm critical of both parties, but the republican party has caved into extremists who don't really have an "agenda" other than stirring the shit for the sake of stirring the shit. Only they are the shit."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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you can't both sides "one party is trying to do what is right for the country" and "the other party is shutting things down just to be dicks".
it is impossible to equate both parties at this point."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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