Chris Christie's Redemption Tour

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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    All you need to know. Thanks for playing, Chris.

    One of the debate’s defining moments came when Fox News moderator Bret Baier directly asked the candidates if they would support “the elephant not in the room” if he was convicted in a court of law. With some delay, all of the candidates onstage, except former Arkansas governor Asa Hutchinson, raised their hand. Christie waved a finger but then clarified that he did not approve of Trump’s conduct and the party needed to move on. DeSantis looked around and was among the last to raise his hand.
    I think Christie was waving his hand to speak...Pence raised his hand which seemed odd.

    tRump himself has said there are candidates he wouldn't support so I'm not sure why they all feel like they have to do that
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  • josevolution
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    All you need to know. Thanks for playing, Chris.

    One of the debate’s defining moments came when Fox News moderator Bret Baier directly asked the candidates if they would support “the elephant not in the room” if he was convicted in a court of law. With some delay, all of the candidates onstage, except former Arkansas governor Asa Hutchinson, raised their hand. Christie waved a finger but then clarified that he did not approve of Trump’s conduct and the party needed to move on. DeSantis looked around and was among the last to raise his hand.
    I think Christie was waving his hand to speak...Pence raised his hand which seemed odd.

    tRump himself has said there are candidates he wouldn't support so I'm not sure why they all feel like they have to do that
    They are all scared of him! 
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    All you need to know. Thanks for playing, Chris.

    One of the debate’s defining moments came when Fox News moderator Bret Baier directly asked the candidates if they would support “the elephant not in the room” if he was convicted in a court of law. With some delay, all of the candidates onstage, except former Arkansas governor Asa Hutchinson, raised their hand. Christie waved a finger but then clarified that he did not approve of Trump’s conduct and the party needed to move on. DeSantis looked around and was among the last to raise his hand.
    I think Christie was waving his hand to speak...Pence raised his hand which seemed odd.

    tRump himself has said there are candidates he wouldn't support so I'm not sure why they all feel like they have to do that
    They are all scared of him! 
    It's likely more of a GOP pledge thing but still....when even tRump won't commit why should they? Honestly it was a really stupid question...much more important topics to talk about.
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  • Gern Blansten
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  • The Juggler
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    All you need to know. Thanks for playing, Chris.

    One of the debate’s defining moments came when Fox News moderator Bret Baier directly asked the candidates if they would support “the elephant not in the room” if he was convicted in a court of law. With some delay, all of the candidates onstage, except former Arkansas governor Asa Hutchinson, raised their hand. Christie waved a finger but then clarified that he did not approve of Trump’s conduct and the party needed to move on. DeSantis looked around and was among the last to raise his hand.
    I think Christie was waving his hand to speak...Pence raised his hand which seemed odd.

    tRump himself has said there are candidates he wouldn't support so I'm not sure why they all feel like they have to do that
    Yeah he was clearly waving his hand/finger to speak, after watching which of the others raised their hands. He's not supporting Trump lol
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    All you need to know. Thanks for playing, Chris.

    One of the debate’s defining moments came when Fox News moderator Bret Baier directly asked the candidates if they would support “the elephant not in the room” if he was convicted in a court of law. With some delay, all of the candidates onstage, except former Arkansas governor Asa Hutchinson, raised their hand. Christie waved a finger but then clarified that he did not approve of Trump’s conduct and the party needed to move on. DeSantis looked around and was among the last to raise his hand.
    I think Christie was waving his hand to speak...Pence raised his hand which seemed odd.

    tRump himself has said there are candidates he wouldn't support so I'm not sure why they all feel like they have to do that
    Yeah he was clearly waving his hand/finger to speak, after watching which of the others raised their hands. He's not supporting Trump lol
    Chris is on record that he’ll support the repub nominee and vote for them, wait for it, even if it’s POOTWH. They’re all on bended knee. Chris is critical, oh yea, but he’s still a hypocrite.
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  • The Juggler
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    https://www.axios.com/2023/03/28/chris-christie-trump-support-2024

    Scoop: Christie pledges never to support Trump again


    Photo: Jim Watson/AFP via Getty Images

    Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, who is seriously considering a 2024 presidential campaign, told Axios that he will never support Donald Trump for president again — even if he wins the Republican nomination.

    Why it matters: No potential GOP candidate has made such an explicit pledge, underscoring the degree to which Christie is betting on the viability of an anti-Trump lane in the primary.

    The big picture: Christie was one of the first top Republicans to back Trump in 2016 after the reality TV star emerged as the front-runner in the presidential race — and even helped the former president prepare to debate Joe Biden during the 2020 campaign.

    • If Christie gets in the race, he is prepared to play the role of anti-Trump prosecutor at a time when Trump's other Republican rivals have been reticent to go after him directly.
    • Christie previewed his line of attack in a speech Monday at St. Anselm College in New Hampshire, where he said Republicans need someone to take down Trump on the debate stage the way he viciously took down Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) in 2016.

    What they're saying: "I'm going to go out there and tell the truth. Like the truth matters. The truth is not negotiable," Christie told Axios.

    • Asked whether he'd support Trump as the GOP nominee in 2024, Christie said: "I can't help him. No way."
    • "Look, I just can't," Christie went on. "When you have the Jan. 6 choir at a rally and you show video of it — I just don't think that person is appropriate for the presidency."
    • Christie said he wouldn't be voting for Biden, either. "I can't imagine myself voting for Joe Biden, either. I don't know if I can vote for either of these guys. They're both too old. They're both out of touch with what's going on in the world right now."

    Between the lines: "Look, what I thought in 2016 was that [Trump] going to be the nominee, and I don't want Hillary Clinton to be the president," Christie said about his past support for Trump, which lasted until the Jan. 6 Capitol attack.

    • "Did I have concerns about him? Of course, but you probably have concerns about any candidate other than yourself in the end."
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  • The Juggler
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    And if your retort is that he signed the pledge...well, he had no choice if he wanted to appear in the debate. He's not supporting Trump:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meetthepressblog/two-gop-presidential-candidates-leave-wiggle-room-pledge-support-nomin-rcna89479

    When Christie, the former governor of New Jersey, was asked about the pledge earlier this month during an interview with ABC News, he indicated he would sign it. But after saying earlier this year he'd never support Trump again (even if he won the nomination), Christie immediately suggested he wouldn't necessarily take the pledge seriously.

    "I'll be on the debate stage, and I will take the pledge that the RNC puts in front of me just as seriously as Donald Trump did eight years ago," Christie said, saying that Trump "absolutely disregarded" the pledge in 2016 and faced no punishment.

    During the first debate of the 2016 GOP nomination, Trump was the only candidate on the debate stage not to rule out the prospect of a third-party bid if he didn't secure the nomination.

    He ultimately signed a pledge to support the party's nominee. But in February 2016, Trump called the Republican National Committee "in default on their pledge" before saying in March he didn't plan to abide by the pledge "anymore."


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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    Pence was asked today about that as well...he said "we all signed a pledge", etc. It's just such an odd litmus test.
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  • The Juggler
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    Pence was asked today about that as well...he said "we all signed a pledge", etc. It's just such an odd litmus test.
    And as the standard bearer of their clown show party proves, it means nothing. 
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  • Gern Blansten
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    And if your retort is that he signed the pledge...well, he had no choice if he wanted to appear in the debate. He's not supporting Trump:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meetthepressblog/two-gop-presidential-candidates-leave-wiggle-room-pledge-support-nomin-rcna89479

    When Christie, the former governor of New Jersey, was asked about the pledge earlier this month during an interview with ABC News, he indicated he would sign it. But after saying earlier this year he'd never support Trump again (even if he won the nomination), Christie immediately suggested he wouldn't necessarily take the pledge seriously.

    "I'll be on the debate stage, and I will take the pledge that the RNC puts in front of me just as seriously as Donald Trump did eight years ago," Christie said, saying that Trump "absolutely disregarded" the pledge in 2016 and faced no punishment.

    During the first debate of the 2016 GOP nomination, Trump was the only candidate on the debate stage not to rule out the prospect of a third-party bid if he didn't secure the nomination.

    He ultimately signed a pledge to support the party's nominee. But in February 2016, Trump called the Republican National Committee "in default on their pledge" before saying in March he didn't plan to abide by the pledge "anymore."


    My retort is that Chris was asked if he’d vote for POOTWH and his response was along the lines of, “ look I’m a repub and I’ll vote for the repub nominee.” Voting and supporting are two different things and he pulled the typical politician bullshit that I thought everyone was sick of by responding that way. If he was true, he would have said, “ I won’t vote for POOTWH nor will I support him if he’s the repub nominee.” Chris wants his cake and he wants to eat it too. Maybe your link is from after he was on record as I claim? I’m not sure but regardless, “supporting” and “voting” are two different things, IMO, and not explicitly stating it is weak.
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  • Gern Blansten
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    he's right...

    why didn't this question pop up last night? "Why should you be selected over tRump?"
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  • The Juggler
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    And if your retort is that he signed the pledge...well, he had no choice if he wanted to appear in the debate. He's not supporting Trump:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meetthepressblog/two-gop-presidential-candidates-leave-wiggle-room-pledge-support-nomin-rcna89479

    When Christie, the former governor of New Jersey, was asked about the pledge earlier this month during an interview with ABC News, he indicated he would sign it. But after saying earlier this year he'd never support Trump again (even if he won the nomination), Christie immediately suggested he wouldn't necessarily take the pledge seriously.

    "I'll be on the debate stage, and I will take the pledge that the RNC puts in front of me just as seriously as Donald Trump did eight years ago," Christie said, saying that Trump "absolutely disregarded" the pledge in 2016 and faced no punishment.

    During the first debate of the 2016 GOP nomination, Trump was the only candidate on the debate stage not to rule out the prospect of a third-party bid if he didn't secure the nomination.

    He ultimately signed a pledge to support the party's nominee. But in February 2016, Trump called the Republican National Committee "in default on their pledge" before saying in March he didn't plan to abide by the pledge "anymore."


    My retort is that Chris was asked if he’d vote for POOTWH and his response was along the lines of, “ look I’m a repub and I’ll vote for the repub nominee.” Voting and supporting are two different things and he pulled the typical politician bullshit that I thought everyone was sick of by responding that way. If he was true, he would have said, “ I won’t vote for POOTWH nor will I support him if he’s the repub nominee.” Chris wants his cake and he wants to eat it too. Maybe your link is from after he was on record as I claim? I’m not sure but regardless, “supporting” and “voting” are two different things, IMO, and not explicitly stating it is weak.
    No offense, but I've linked to two separate articles this afternoon that dispute your recollection of something he said at some point. In the first one he said he would not vote for either Biden or Trump. And he reiterated this stance again less than 24 hours ago. I don't know what else to tell you. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    edited August 2023
    And if your retort is that he signed the pledge...well, he had no choice if he wanted to appear in the debate. He's not supporting Trump:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meetthepressblog/two-gop-presidential-candidates-leave-wiggle-room-pledge-support-nomin-rcna89479

    When Christie, the former governor of New Jersey, was asked about the pledge earlier this month during an interview with ABC News, he indicated he would sign it. But after saying earlier this year he'd never support Trump again (even if he won the nomination), Christie immediately suggested he wouldn't necessarily take the pledge seriously.

    "I'll be on the debate stage, and I will take the pledge that the RNC puts in front of me just as seriously as Donald Trump did eight years ago," Christie said, saying that Trump "absolutely disregarded" the pledge in 2016 and faced no punishment.

    During the first debate of the 2016 GOP nomination, Trump was the only candidate on the debate stage not to rule out the prospect of a third-party bid if he didn't secure the nomination.

    He ultimately signed a pledge to support the party's nominee. But in February 2016, Trump called the Republican National Committee "in default on their pledge" before saying in March he didn't plan to abide by the pledge "anymore."


    My retort is that Chris was asked if he’d vote for POOTWH and his response was along the lines of, “ look I’m a repub and I’ll vote for the repub nominee.” Voting and supporting are two different things and he pulled the typical politician bullshit that I thought everyone was sick of by responding that way. If he was true, he would have said, “ I won’t vote for POOTWH nor will I support him if he’s the repub nominee.” Chris wants his cake and he wants to eat it too. Maybe your link is from after he was on record as I claim? I’m not sure but regardless, “supporting” and “voting” are two different things, IMO, and not explicitly stating it is weak.
    No offense, but I've linked to two separate articles this afternoon that dispute your recollection of something he said at some point. In the first one he said he would not vote for either Biden or Trump. And he reiterated this stance again less than 24 hours ago. I don't know what else to tell you. 
    First post to start this thread. Granted November 2021 but I didn't believe a word he was spewing then and I certainly don't believe a word he's spewing now. 

     Offense? Offense? C'mon man. There's a disingenuousness to Chris and I think, at the end of the day, when he's in the booth or at the table filling out his ballot, he'll pull the trigger for POOTWH. I know I saw him say, "he's a repub and he'll vote for the repub nominee, even if its POOTWH." His stance may have changed since I saw that clip but I don't trust him and its clear he's going down by the reaction of the crowd at last night's debate and where he sits in the polls among repubs.

    I couldn't access the NBC link without changing my ad blockers which I'm not going to do. Those things freeze up and fuck with my computer. Sorry.
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  • The Juggler
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    edited August 2023
    And if your retort is that he signed the pledge...well, he had no choice if he wanted to appear in the debate. He's not supporting Trump:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meetthepressblog/two-gop-presidential-candidates-leave-wiggle-room-pledge-support-nomin-rcna89479

    When Christie, the former governor of New Jersey, was asked about the pledge earlier this month during an interview with ABC News, he indicated he would sign it. But after saying earlier this year he'd never support Trump again (even if he won the nomination), Christie immediately suggested he wouldn't necessarily take the pledge seriously.

    "I'll be on the debate stage, and I will take the pledge that the RNC puts in front of me just as seriously as Donald Trump did eight years ago," Christie said, saying that Trump "absolutely disregarded" the pledge in 2016 and faced no punishment.

    During the first debate of the 2016 GOP nomination, Trump was the only candidate on the debate stage not to rule out the prospect of a third-party bid if he didn't secure the nomination.

    He ultimately signed a pledge to support the party's nominee. But in February 2016, Trump called the Republican National Committee "in default on their pledge" before saying in March he didn't plan to abide by the pledge "anymore."


    My retort is that Chris was asked if he’d vote for POOTWH and his response was along the lines of, “ look I’m a repub and I’ll vote for the repub nominee.” Voting and supporting are two different things and he pulled the typical politician bullshit that I thought everyone was sick of by responding that way. If he was true, he would have said, “ I won’t vote for POOTWH nor will I support him if he’s the repub nominee.” Chris wants his cake and he wants to eat it too. Maybe your link is from after he was on record as I claim? I’m not sure but regardless, “supporting” and “voting” are two different things, IMO, and not explicitly stating it is weak.
    No offense, but I've linked to two separate articles this afternoon that dispute your recollection of something he said at some point. In the first one he said he would not vote for either Biden or Trump. And he reiterated this stance again less than 24 hours ago. I don't know what else to tell you. 
    First post to start this thread. Granted November 2021 but I didn't believe a word he was spewing then and I certainly don't believe a word he's spewing now. 

     Offense? Offense? C'mon man. There's a disingenuousness to Chris and I think, at the end of the day, when he's in the booth or at the table filling out his ballot, he'll pull the trigger for POOTWH. I know I saw him say, "he's a repub and he'll vote for the repub nominee, even if its POOTWH." His stance may have changed since I saw that clip but I don't trust him and its clear he's going down by the reaction of the crowd at last night's debate and where he sits in the polls among repubs.

    I couldn't access the NBC link without changing my ad blockers which I'm not going to do. Those things freeze up and fuck with my computer. Sorry.
    The first post of this thread is you, again, recollecting what you heard him say...two years ago. Sorry man. Not good enough.

    I've linked to two recent articles and he was on national tv multiple times this week saying the same thing: that he's not supporting Trump. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    And if your retort is that he signed the pledge...well, he had no choice if he wanted to appear in the debate. He's not supporting Trump:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meetthepressblog/two-gop-presidential-candidates-leave-wiggle-room-pledge-support-nomin-rcna89479

    When Christie, the former governor of New Jersey, was asked about the pledge earlier this month during an interview with ABC News, he indicated he would sign it. But after saying earlier this year he'd never support Trump again (even if he won the nomination), Christie immediately suggested he wouldn't necessarily take the pledge seriously.

    "I'll be on the debate stage, and I will take the pledge that the RNC puts in front of me just as seriously as Donald Trump did eight years ago," Christie said, saying that Trump "absolutely disregarded" the pledge in 2016 and faced no punishment.

    During the first debate of the 2016 GOP nomination, Trump was the only candidate on the debate stage not to rule out the prospect of a third-party bid if he didn't secure the nomination.

    He ultimately signed a pledge to support the party's nominee. But in February 2016, Trump called the Republican National Committee "in default on their pledge" before saying in March he didn't plan to abide by the pledge "anymore."


    My retort is that Chris was asked if he’d vote for POOTWH and his response was along the lines of, “ look I’m a repub and I’ll vote for the repub nominee.” Voting and supporting are two different things and he pulled the typical politician bullshit that I thought everyone was sick of by responding that way. If he was true, he would have said, “ I won’t vote for POOTWH nor will I support him if he’s the repub nominee.” Chris wants his cake and he wants to eat it too. Maybe your link is from after he was on record as I claim? I’m not sure but regardless, “supporting” and “voting” are two different things, IMO, and not explicitly stating it is weak.
    No offense, but I've linked to two separate articles this afternoon that dispute your recollection of something he said at some point. In the first one he said he would not vote for either Biden or Trump. And he reiterated this stance again less than 24 hours ago. I don't know what else to tell you. 
    First post to start this thread. Granted November 2021 but I didn't believe a word he was spewing then and I certainly don't believe a word he's spewing now. 

     Offense? Offense? C'mon man. There's a disingenuousness to Chris and I think, at the end of the day, when he's in the booth or at the table filling out his ballot, he'll pull the trigger for POOTWH. I know I saw him say, "he's a repub and he'll vote for the repub nominee, even if its POOTWH." His stance may have changed since I saw that clip but I don't trust him and its clear he's going down by the reaction of the crowd at last night's debate and where he sits in the polls among repubs.

    I couldn't access the NBC link without changing my ad blockers which I'm not going to do. Those things freeze up and fuck with my computer. Sorry.
    The first post of this thread is you, again, recollecting what you heard him say...two years ago. Sorry man. Not good enough.

    I've linked to two recent articles and he was on national tv saying the same thing: that he's not supporting Trump. 
    Sorry, two years ago he said that to Nicole Wallace. I watched it live. Regardless, Chris is a piece of shit and won’t save us from POOTWH with his schtick. Faaaaaar too late for that. When POOTWH is re-elected, Chris will be grovelling for a job in the administration just like all the other lap dogs.
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    And if your retort is that he signed the pledge...well, he had no choice if he wanted to appear in the debate. He's not supporting Trump:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meetthepressblog/two-gop-presidential-candidates-leave-wiggle-room-pledge-support-nomin-rcna89479

    When Christie, the former governor of New Jersey, was asked about the pledge earlier this month during an interview with ABC News, he indicated he would sign it. But after saying earlier this year he'd never support Trump again (even if he won the nomination), Christie immediately suggested he wouldn't necessarily take the pledge seriously.

    "I'll be on the debate stage, and I will take the pledge that the RNC puts in front of me just as seriously as Donald Trump did eight years ago," Christie said, saying that Trump "absolutely disregarded" the pledge in 2016 and faced no punishment.

    During the first debate of the 2016 GOP nomination, Trump was the only candidate on the debate stage not to rule out the prospect of a third-party bid if he didn't secure the nomination.

    He ultimately signed a pledge to support the party's nominee. But in February 2016, Trump called the Republican National Committee "in default on their pledge" before saying in March he didn't plan to abide by the pledge "anymore."


    My retort is that Chris was asked if he’d vote for POOTWH and his response was along the lines of, “ look I’m a repub and I’ll vote for the repub nominee.” Voting and supporting are two different things and he pulled the typical politician bullshit that I thought everyone was sick of by responding that way. If he was true, he would have said, “ I won’t vote for POOTWH nor will I support him if he’s the repub nominee.” Chris wants his cake and he wants to eat it too. Maybe your link is from after he was on record as I claim? I’m not sure but regardless, “supporting” and “voting” are two different things, IMO, and not explicitly stating it is weak.
    No offense, but I've linked to two separate articles this afternoon that dispute your recollection of something he said at some point. In the first one he said he would not vote for either Biden or Trump. And he reiterated this stance again less than 24 hours ago. I don't know what else to tell you. 
    First post to start this thread. Granted November 2021 but I didn't believe a word he was spewing then and I certainly don't believe a word he's spewing now. 

     Offense? Offense? C'mon man. There's a disingenuousness to Chris and I think, at the end of the day, when he's in the booth or at the table filling out his ballot, he'll pull the trigger for POOTWH. I know I saw him say, "he's a repub and he'll vote for the repub nominee, even if its POOTWH." His stance may have changed since I saw that clip but I don't trust him and its clear he's going down by the reaction of the crowd at last night's debate and where he sits in the polls among repubs.

    I couldn't access the NBC link without changing my ad blockers which I'm not going to do. Those things freeze up and fuck with my computer. Sorry.
    The first post of this thread is you, again, recollecting what you heard him say...two years ago. Sorry man. Not good enough.

    I've linked to two recent articles and he was on national tv saying the same thing: that he's not supporting Trump. 
    Sorry, two years ago he said that to Nicole Wallace. I watched it live. Regardless, Chris is a piece of shit and won’t save us from POOTWH with his schtick. Faaaaaar too late for that. When POOTWH is re-elected, Chris will be grovelling for a job in the administration just like all the other lap dogs.
    Is having someone on the GOP stage talking about how bad tRump is good or bad?

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  • The Juggler
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    And if your retort is that he signed the pledge...well, he had no choice if he wanted to appear in the debate. He's not supporting Trump:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meetthepressblog/two-gop-presidential-candidates-leave-wiggle-room-pledge-support-nomin-rcna89479

    When Christie, the former governor of New Jersey, was asked about the pledge earlier this month during an interview with ABC News, he indicated he would sign it. But after saying earlier this year he'd never support Trump again (even if he won the nomination), Christie immediately suggested he wouldn't necessarily take the pledge seriously.

    "I'll be on the debate stage, and I will take the pledge that the RNC puts in front of me just as seriously as Donald Trump did eight years ago," Christie said, saying that Trump "absolutely disregarded" the pledge in 2016 and faced no punishment.

    During the first debate of the 2016 GOP nomination, Trump was the only candidate on the debate stage not to rule out the prospect of a third-party bid if he didn't secure the nomination.

    He ultimately signed a pledge to support the party's nominee. But in February 2016, Trump called the Republican National Committee "in default on their pledge" before saying in March he didn't plan to abide by the pledge "anymore."


    My retort is that Chris was asked if he’d vote for POOTWH and his response was along the lines of, “ look I’m a repub and I’ll vote for the repub nominee.” Voting and supporting are two different things and he pulled the typical politician bullshit that I thought everyone was sick of by responding that way. If he was true, he would have said, “ I won’t vote for POOTWH nor will I support him if he’s the repub nominee.” Chris wants his cake and he wants to eat it too. Maybe your link is from after he was on record as I claim? I’m not sure but regardless, “supporting” and “voting” are two different things, IMO, and not explicitly stating it is weak.
    No offense, but I've linked to two separate articles this afternoon that dispute your recollection of something he said at some point. In the first one he said he would not vote for either Biden or Trump. And he reiterated this stance again less than 24 hours ago. I don't know what else to tell you. 
    First post to start this thread. Granted November 2021 but I didn't believe a word he was spewing then and I certainly don't believe a word he's spewing now. 

     Offense? Offense? C'mon man. There's a disingenuousness to Chris and I think, at the end of the day, when he's in the booth or at the table filling out his ballot, he'll pull the trigger for POOTWH. I know I saw him say, "he's a repub and he'll vote for the repub nominee, even if its POOTWH." His stance may have changed since I saw that clip but I don't trust him and its clear he's going down by the reaction of the crowd at last night's debate and where he sits in the polls among repubs.

    I couldn't access the NBC link without changing my ad blockers which I'm not going to do. Those things freeze up and fuck with my computer. Sorry.
    The first post of this thread is you, again, recollecting what you heard him say...two years ago. Sorry man. Not good enough.

    I've linked to two recent articles and he was on national tv saying the same thing: that he's not supporting Trump. 
    Sorry, two years ago he said that to Nicole Wallace. I watched it live. Regardless, Chris is a piece of shit and won’t save us from POOTWH with his schtick. Faaaaaar too late for that. When POOTWH is re-elected, Chris will be grovelling for a job in the administration just like all the other lap dogs.
    Is having someone on the GOP stage talking about how bad tRump is good or bad?

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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    And if your retort is that he signed the pledge...well, he had no choice if he wanted to appear in the debate. He's not supporting Trump:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meetthepressblog/two-gop-presidential-candidates-leave-wiggle-room-pledge-support-nomin-rcna89479

    When Christie, the former governor of New Jersey, was asked about the pledge earlier this month during an interview with ABC News, he indicated he would sign it. But after saying earlier this year he'd never support Trump again (even if he won the nomination), Christie immediately suggested he wouldn't necessarily take the pledge seriously.

    "I'll be on the debate stage, and I will take the pledge that the RNC puts in front of me just as seriously as Donald Trump did eight years ago," Christie said, saying that Trump "absolutely disregarded" the pledge in 2016 and faced no punishment.

    During the first debate of the 2016 GOP nomination, Trump was the only candidate on the debate stage not to rule out the prospect of a third-party bid if he didn't secure the nomination.

    He ultimately signed a pledge to support the party's nominee. But in February 2016, Trump called the Republican National Committee "in default on their pledge" before saying in March he didn't plan to abide by the pledge "anymore."


    My retort is that Chris was asked if he’d vote for POOTWH and his response was along the lines of, “ look I’m a repub and I’ll vote for the repub nominee.” Voting and supporting are two different things and he pulled the typical politician bullshit that I thought everyone was sick of by responding that way. If he was true, he would have said, “ I won’t vote for POOTWH nor will I support him if he’s the repub nominee.” Chris wants his cake and he wants to eat it too. Maybe your link is from after he was on record as I claim? I’m not sure but regardless, “supporting” and “voting” are two different things, IMO, and not explicitly stating it is weak.
    No offense, but I've linked to two separate articles this afternoon that dispute your recollection of something he said at some point. In the first one he said he would not vote for either Biden or Trump. And he reiterated this stance again less than 24 hours ago. I don't know what else to tell you. 
    First post to start this thread. Granted November 2021 but I didn't believe a word he was spewing then and I certainly don't believe a word he's spewing now. 

     Offense? Offense? C'mon man. There's a disingenuousness to Chris and I think, at the end of the day, when he's in the booth or at the table filling out his ballot, he'll pull the trigger for POOTWH. I know I saw him say, "he's a repub and he'll vote for the repub nominee, even if its POOTWH." His stance may have changed since I saw that clip but I don't trust him and its clear he's going down by the reaction of the crowd at last night's debate and where he sits in the polls among repubs.

    I couldn't access the NBC link without changing my ad blockers which I'm not going to do. Those things freeze up and fuck with my computer. Sorry.
    The first post of this thread is you, again, recollecting what you heard him say...two years ago. Sorry man. Not good enough.

    I've linked to two recent articles and he was on national tv saying the same thing: that he's not supporting Trump. 
    Sorry, two years ago he said that to Nicole Wallace. I watched it live. Regardless, Chris is a piece of shit and won’t save us from POOTWH with his schtick. Faaaaaar too late for that. When POOTWH is re-elected, Chris will be grovelling for a job in the administration just like all the other lap dogs.
    Is having someone on the GOP stage talking about how bad tRump is good or bad?

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    Good luck with that. After November 2024, Chris will be relegated to the dustbin of history and be but a footnote in history books of one in a long line of names who enabled the destruction of US democracy. Unless he gets a job as a talking head and bloviates about how repubs have solutions to what ails ‘Murica. Good or bad? It’s shitting diarrhea into the wind.
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