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 he will just throw a ball onto the green and say he hit it there.mickeyrat said:"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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 I don't think golf gets harder at you get older. When you turn less, reduce your speed and shorten your swing, fewer things go wrong. My dispersion is much better now than 20 years ago.Lerxst1992 said:0
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            You're lucky russ. I never thought I'd have a bad knee, yet there it is. No more GA for me 
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 Oh my knee is bad. I have a torn ACL as we speak. It's the third time I've torn it. Tore the original, tore the patella replacement and the cadaver. But the arthritis is so bad that they won't do another one. I have to wait for a replacement, and I'm at least a decade too young for that. I will tell you that golf is not terrible on the knee. I can't torque anymore, but I still walk 18 twice a weekend. Standing in one place in GA is bad though. It gets super tight.Lerxst1992 said:You're lucky russ. I never thought I'd have a bad knee, yet there it is. No more GA for me 
 What's your knee issue?0
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 Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
 you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
 memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
 another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '140
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 Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
 you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
 memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
 another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '140
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 Not on the green...in the hole.gimmesometruth27 said:
 he will just throw a ball onto the green and say he hit it there.mickeyrat said:This weekend we rock Portland0
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 Just like that great healthcare plan! Idiots are still waiting for itmickeyrat said:2 weeks. wil unveil in 2 weeks...jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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            mrussel1 said:
 Oh my knee is bad. I have a torn ACL as we speak. It's the third time I've torn it. Tore the original, tore the patella replacement and the cadaver. But the arthritis is so bad that they won't do another one. I have to wait for a replacement, and I'm at least a decade too young for that. I will tell you that golf is not terrible on the knee. I can't torque anymore, but I still walk 18 twice a weekend. Standing in one place in GA is bad though. It gets super tight.Lerxst1992 said:You're lucky russ. I never thought I'd have a bad knee, yet there it is. No more GA for me 
 What's your knee issue?Wow, sorry to hear that. I tore meniscus three months ago and big issue is buckling. So once I bend knee a little it wants to give. Also plenty of arthritis. Luckily no pain. PT is making legs stronger which is helpful.0
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 They don't want to do an arthroscopy? If they offer, you should do it. That's a nothing procedure and you'll feel great in two weeks, standing GA at Ohana.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
 Oh my knee is bad. I have a torn ACL as we speak. It's the third time I've torn it. Tore the original, tore the patella replacement and the cadaver. But the arthritis is so bad that they won't do another one. I have to wait for a replacement, and I'm at least a decade too young for that. I will tell you that golf is not terrible on the knee. I can't torque anymore, but I still walk 18 twice a weekend. Standing in one place in GA is bad though. It gets super tight.Lerxst1992 said:You're lucky russ. I never thought I'd have a bad knee, yet there it is. No more GA for me 
 What's your knee issue?Wow, sorry to hear that. I tore meniscus three months ago and big issue is buckling. So once I bend knee a little it wants to give. Also plenty of arthritis. Luckily no pain. PT is making legs stronger which is helpful.0
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            mrussel1 said:
 They don't want to do an arthroscopy? If they offer, you should do it. That's a nothing procedure and you'll feel great in two weeks, standing GA at Ohana.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
 Oh my knee is bad. I have a torn ACL as we speak. It's the third time I've torn it. Tore the original, tore the patella replacement and the cadaver. But the arthritis is so bad that they won't do another one. I have to wait for a replacement, and I'm at least a decade too young for that. I will tell you that golf is not terrible on the knee. I can't torque anymore, but I still walk 18 twice a weekend. Standing in one place in GA is bad though. It gets super tight.Lerxst1992 said:You're lucky russ. I never thought I'd have a bad knee, yet there it is. No more GA for me 
 What's your knee issue?Wow, sorry to hear that. I tore meniscus three months ago and big issue is buckling. So once I bend knee a little it wants to give. Also plenty of arthritis. Luckily no pain. PT is making legs stronger which is helpful.Ohana! Dr said arthroscopy would relieve any pain but not help w instability in my situation. I’m definitely going to get a second opinion on that down the road, but happy PT is helping so far.0
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 your doctor is correct. the meniscus helps with stability of the knee, and if you take more and more out via arthroscopy, your instability will remain or could get worse. the research shows that arthroscopic "clean ups" help temporarily for pain, but long term are not as effective as we want them to be. at our age pt is probably the best course of action until your arthritis is bad enough for a total knee.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
 They don't want to do an arthroscopy? If they offer, you should do it. That's a nothing procedure and you'll feel great in two weeks, standing GA at Ohana.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
 Oh my knee is bad. I have a torn ACL as we speak. It's the third time I've torn it. Tore the original, tore the patella replacement and the cadaver. But the arthritis is so bad that they won't do another one. I have to wait for a replacement, and I'm at least a decade too young for that. I will tell you that golf is not terrible on the knee. I can't torque anymore, but I still walk 18 twice a weekend. Standing in one place in GA is bad though. It gets super tight.Lerxst1992 said:You're lucky russ. I never thought I'd have a bad knee, yet there it is. No more GA for me 
 What's your knee issue?Wow, sorry to hear that. I tore meniscus three months ago and big issue is buckling. So once I bend knee a little it wants to give. Also plenty of arthritis. Luckily no pain. PT is making legs stronger which is helpful.Ohana! Dr said arthroscopy would relieve any pain but not help w instability in my situation. I’m definitely going to get a second opinion on that down the road, but happy PT is helping so far."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
 "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0
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 Good info. Thanks. I've had multiple scopes in both knees and you're making me second guess it now.gimmesometruth27 said:
 your doctor is correct. the meniscus helps with stability of the knee, and if you take more and more out via arthroscopy, your instability will remain or could get worse. the research shows that arthroscopic "clean ups" help temporarily for pain, but long term are not as effective as we want them to be. at our age pt is probably the best course of action until your arthritis is bad enough for a total knee.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
 They don't want to do an arthroscopy? If they offer, you should do it. That's a nothing procedure and you'll feel great in two weeks, standing GA at Ohana.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
 Oh my knee is bad. I have a torn ACL as we speak. It's the third time I've torn it. Tore the original, tore the patella replacement and the cadaver. But the arthritis is so bad that they won't do another one. I have to wait for a replacement, and I'm at least a decade too young for that. I will tell you that golf is not terrible on the knee. I can't torque anymore, but I still walk 18 twice a weekend. Standing in one place in GA is bad though. It gets super tight.Lerxst1992 said:You're lucky russ. I never thought I'd have a bad knee, yet there it is. No more GA for me 
 What's your knee issue?Wow, sorry to hear that. I tore meniscus three months ago and big issue is buckling. So once I bend knee a little it wants to give. Also plenty of arthritis. Luckily no pain. PT is making legs stronger which is helpful.Ohana! Dr said arthroscopy would relieve any pain but not help w instability in my situation. I’m definitely going to get a second opinion on that down the road, but happy PT is helping so far.0
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            gimmesometruth27 said:
 your doctor is correct. the meniscus helps with stability of the knee, and if you take more and more out via arthroscopy, your instability will remain or could get worse. the research shows that arthroscopic "clean ups" help temporarily for pain, but long term are not as effective as we want them to be. at our age pt is probably the best course of action until your arthritis is bad enough for a total knee.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
 They don't want to do an arthroscopy? If they offer, you should do it. That's a nothing procedure and you'll feel great in two weeks, standing GA at Ohana.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
 Oh my knee is bad. I have a torn ACL as we speak. It's the third time I've torn it. Tore the original, tore the patella replacement and the cadaver. But the arthritis is so bad that they won't do another one. I have to wait for a replacement, and I'm at least a decade too young for that. I will tell you that golf is not terrible on the knee. I can't torque anymore, but I still walk 18 twice a weekend. Standing in one place in GA is bad though. It gets super tight.Lerxst1992 said:You're lucky russ. I never thought I'd have a bad knee, yet there it is. No more GA for me 
 What's your knee issue?Wow, sorry to hear that. I tore meniscus three months ago and big issue is buckling. So once I bend knee a little it wants to give. Also plenty of arthritis. Luckily no pain. PT is making legs stronger which is helpful.Ohana! Dr said arthroscopy would relieve any pain but not help w instability in my situation. I’m definitely going to get a second opinion on that down the road, but happy PT is helping so far.Thanks gimme. Glad I saw your old comments in the tennis elbow thread recently, so I understand your background. PT has been terrific, over the past few mos, I added a lot of weight to my leg presses and TKEs, I am at the point where maintaining weights lifted is optimal for now. But PT takes time. I’ll probably join a gym when the insurance co pulls the plug on PT.0
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 it depends on what the goal of the procedure is. if they are going to go in and clean up spurring from the arthritis it will help with pain temporarily but the body will just lay those bone spurs down again. the body cannot regenerate articular cartilage so it does what it thinks is the next best thing by laying down bone. if they keep going in and removing it the body will try to "heal" it by putting bone there.mrussel1 said:
 Good info. Thanks. I've had multiple scopes in both knees and you're making me second guess it now.gimmesometruth27 said:
 your doctor is correct. the meniscus helps with stability of the knee, and if you take more and more out via arthroscopy, your instability will remain or could get worse. the research shows that arthroscopic "clean ups" help temporarily for pain, but long term are not as effective as we want them to be. at our age pt is probably the best course of action until your arthritis is bad enough for a total knee.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
 They don't want to do an arthroscopy? If they offer, you should do it. That's a nothing procedure and you'll feel great in two weeks, standing GA at Ohana.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
 Oh my knee is bad. I have a torn ACL as we speak. It's the third time I've torn it. Tore the original, tore the patella replacement and the cadaver. But the arthritis is so bad that they won't do another one. I have to wait for a replacement, and I'm at least a decade too young for that. I will tell you that golf is not terrible on the knee. I can't torque anymore, but I still walk 18 twice a weekend. Standing in one place in GA is bad though. It gets super tight.Lerxst1992 said:You're lucky russ. I never thought I'd have a bad knee, yet there it is. No more GA for me 
 What's your knee issue?Wow, sorry to hear that. I tore meniscus three months ago and big issue is buckling. So once I bend knee a little it wants to give. Also plenty of arthritis. Luckily no pain. PT is making legs stronger which is helpful.Ohana! Dr said arthroscopy would relieve any pain but not help w instability in my situation. I’m definitely going to get a second opinion on that down the road, but happy PT is helping so far.
 if you have a meniscus tear that is painful and it is in a "white zone" of the meniscus that does not have good blood supply it will not heal so trimming that out is usually the only option. it is like trimming a hangnail so it does not snag on things and stay painful. they usually only take out a small part but if you take out a bunch of small parts in multiple surgeries over a lifetime it adds up. back before arthroscopy they used to just open up the knee and remove the whole meniscus. that was before they understood the meniscus and that it is more important for knee health than they ever thought. nowadays if someone tears their meniscus they try to save it by sewing it back together. but only if the tear is in the "red zone" where there is good blood supply. sewing something with poor blood supply will not heal, so that is when they usually trim it out."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
 "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0
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 that's awesome! glad it is helping. the problem with pt is you have to do the homework as well and many people do not have time to do it consistently. if you make it a priority you can maintain your strength and function and reduce your pain. there are other options for knee arthritis. if it is just medial or just lateral you can try an unloader brace that will put pressure on the medial or lateral side of your knee to gap it open so that it relieves pressure on the area where it is bone on bone. plus, since it is a brace it can help with stability as well. it is only effective if you have the arthritis in one compartment. most people have it medially so they use a medial unloader brace. if it is in both medial and lateral compartments the brace will not be as effective because offloading one compartment puts more stress on the other compartment so it can make the pain worse in that one compartment.Lerxst1992 said:gimmesometruth27 said:
 your doctor is correct. the meniscus helps with stability of the knee, and if you take more and more out via arthroscopy, your instability will remain or could get worse. the research shows that arthroscopic "clean ups" help temporarily for pain, but long term are not as effective as we want them to be. at our age pt is probably the best course of action until your arthritis is bad enough for a total knee.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
 They don't want to do an arthroscopy? If they offer, you should do it. That's a nothing procedure and you'll feel great in two weeks, standing GA at Ohana.Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:
 Oh my knee is bad. I have a torn ACL as we speak. It's the third time I've torn it. Tore the original, tore the patella replacement and the cadaver. But the arthritis is so bad that they won't do another one. I have to wait for a replacement, and I'm at least a decade too young for that. I will tell you that golf is not terrible on the knee. I can't torque anymore, but I still walk 18 twice a weekend. Standing in one place in GA is bad though. It gets super tight.Lerxst1992 said:You're lucky russ. I never thought I'd have a bad knee, yet there it is. No more GA for me 
 What's your knee issue?Wow, sorry to hear that. I tore meniscus three months ago and big issue is buckling. So once I bend knee a little it wants to give. Also plenty of arthritis. Luckily no pain. PT is making legs stronger which is helpful.Ohana! Dr said arthroscopy would relieve any pain but not help w instability in my situation. I’m definitely going to get a second opinion on that down the road, but happy PT is helping so far.Thanks gimme. Glad I saw your old comments in the tennis elbow thread recently, so I understand your background. PT has been terrific, over the past few mos, I added a lot of weight to my leg presses and TKEs, I am at the point where maintaining weights lifted is optimal for now. But PT takes time. I’ll probably join a gym when the insurance co pulls the plug on PT.
 you can always ask your doc about that. they know your knee better than i do, ha."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
 "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0
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