Chris Christie's Redemption Tour

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  • Gern Blansten
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    “Character first” would be a great slogan for him to use. It’s an unoccupied lane amongst the GOP presidential candidates, and completely nonpartisan.
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  • Lerxst1992
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    Someone who speaks their language needs to do it. Heck, fox “news” even had a hard hitting trump interview about his BS lies regarding his indictment. True most if not all trumpsters will ignore Christie, but SOMEONE from he “inside” needs to do this.

    They loved how trump was hard hitting and arrogant in the last few debates. This time, Christie will do that to trump, and the advantage he has is he has the truth on his side.
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Someone who speaks their language needs to do it. Heck, fox “news” even had a hard hitting trump interview about his BS lies regarding his indictment. True most if not all trumpsters will ignore Christie, but SOMEONE from he “inside” needs to do this.

    They loved how trump was hard hitting and arrogant in the last few debates. This time, Christie will do that to trump, and the advantage he has is he has the truth on his side.
    But does he “speak their language” though? They’ve listened to six or seven years of word salad goobly gook conspiracy theories and now someone who speaks “truth” and has it on their side is going to win over that 35% base that you need in the repub primary? C’mon man!

    I get it. Someone needs to go after POOTWH and try to wrest control of the party back from the magat freedom caucus. Yay. However, it’s a fool’s errand, currently, and the only way it goes back is with the imprisonment and/or death of POOTWH and another two POTUS and three or four congressional election cycles of voter rejection of POOTWH and freedom caucus policies. It’s a tall order and I may not live long enough to see it come to fruition. We have to acknowledge that a large portion of the US voting population is okay with evangelical white nationalism policies and waging war on the “other.” And that living under an authoritarian leader they identify with is fine if it gets them their vision of ‘Murica. These folks aren’t going away.

    And hardly anyone is talking about that billionaire funded “non-partisan” third party POTUS run that will siphon Bernie voters and indies to either give us POOTWH or more of the same evangelical white nationalist policy. Christie is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Don’t be fooled. He’s talking about how to behave when you disagree with someone? Someone should remind him of bridgegate and his closing of beaches. He’s as petty as they come. Imagine him throwing his weight around in the WH and being questioned by the press. “How dare you.” Fuck him.
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  • The Juggler
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    Halifix, I really don't get your position here. Would you rather Christie continue supporting Trump?

    These people need someone to tell them the truth for once. It's next to impossible to find someone willing to do that in today's GOP. We should be happy someone, albeit someone with a questionable past, is doing it. 
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  • nicknyr15
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    Halifix, I really don't get your position here. Would you rather Christie continue supporting Trump?

    These people need someone to tell them the truth for once. It's next to impossible to find someone willing to do that in today's GOP. We should be happy someone, albeit someone with a questionable past, is doing it. 
    Agreed. And what politician doesn’t have a checkered past? People could change, no? I mean , Biden has said some terrible things in the past and was against gay marriage, amongst other questionable stances, but he evolved and changed. Nobody is perfect. 
  • The Juggler
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    edited June 2023
    nicknyr15 said:
    Halifix, I really don't get your position here. Would you rather Christie continue supporting Trump?

    These people need someone to tell them the truth for once. It's next to impossible to find someone willing to do that in today's GOP. We should be happy someone, albeit someone with a questionable past, is doing it. 
    Agreed. And what politician doesn’t have a checkered past? People could change, no? I mean , Biden has said some terrible things in the past and was against gay marriage, amongst other questionable stances, but he evolved and changed. Nobody is perfect. 
    Ehhh.....I cannot go that far with your comparison. 

    I mean, supporting Trump and continuing to support Trump for years is different from the things you are mentioning. It's a red line for me compared to policy stuff and social stuff that took a lot of people a lot of time to come around to. I can never support someone who supported someone as horrific as Trump..........but I can be happy for them to finally see the light and to try to convince others to do the same though!
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Halifix, I really don't get your position here. Would you rather Christie continue supporting Trump?

    These people need someone to tell them the truth for once. It's next to impossible to find someone willing to do that in today's GOP. We should be happy someone, albeit someone with a questionable past, is doing it. 
    No, of course not. But let’s not put him on a pedestal and consider him a saviour because he’s speaking “truth” to delusion. He was all in on POOTWH and would have happily served him in a second term. He’s a bridge too far. And, being in NJ and a former federal prosecutor, he knows all too well POOTWH’s character. He’s a bully opportunist with a narrow view. Fuck him, he’s going to get destroyed down south.
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    Halifix, I really don't get your position here. Would you rather Christie continue supporting Trump?

    These people need someone to tell them the truth for once. It's next to impossible to find someone willing to do that in today's GOP. We should be happy someone, albeit someone with a questionable past, is doing it. 
    No, of course not. But let’s not put him on a pedestal and consider him a saviour because he’s speaking “truth” to delusion. He was all in on POOTWH and would have happily served him in a second term. He’s a bridge too far. And, being in NJ and a former federal prosecutor, he knows all too well POOTWH’s character. He’s a bully opportunist with a narrow view. Fuck him, he’s going to get destroyed down south.
    Being happy that he's telling maga republicans the truth about Trump, albeit 8 years too late, is not the same thing as putting him on a pedestal. I think he knows he is going to lose, unless Trump somehow drops out or winds up in prison sooner or later. I think he's trying to bloody him up and make him weaker for the general. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Someone should ask Chris if he supports the house expunging POOTWH’s two impeachments. In fact, a debate moderator should ask all the repub candidates that question.
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    Bret Baier will moderate so you never know! Great question 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Halifix, I really don't get your position here. Would you rather Christie continue supporting Trump?

    These people need someone to tell them the truth for once. It's next to impossible to find someone willing to do that in today's GOP. We should be happy someone, albeit someone with a questionable past, is doing it. 
    No, of course not. But let’s not put him on a pedestal and consider him a saviour because he’s speaking “truth” to delusion. He was all in on POOTWH and would have happily served him in a second term. He’s a bridge too far. And, being in NJ and a former federal prosecutor, he knows all too well POOTWH’s character. He’s a bully opportunist with a narrow view. Fuck him, he’s going to get destroyed down south.
    Being happy that he's telling maga republicans the truth about Trump, albeit 8 years too late, is not the same thing as putting him on a pedestal. I think he knows he is going to lose, unless Trump somehow drops out or winds up in prison sooner or later. I think he's trying to bloody him up and make him weaker for the general. 
    I refer you to my very first post on page one of this thread. 
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  • Lerxst1992
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    Halifix, I really don't get your position here. Would you rather Christie continue supporting Trump?

    These people need someone to tell them the truth for once. It's next to impossible to find someone willing to do that in today's GOP. We should be happy someone, albeit someone with a questionable past, is doing it. 
    No, of course not. But let’s not put him on a pedestal and consider him a saviour because he’s speaking “truth” to delusion. He was all in on POOTWH and would have happily served him in a second term. He’s a bridge too far. And, being in NJ and a former federal prosecutor, he knows all too well POOTWH’s character. He’s a bully opportunist with a narrow view. Fuck him, he’s going to get destroyed down south.


    I did not put Christie on a pedestal, I said that someone needs to forcefully attack trump at the debates, from within the bubble. Someone that has history of speaking the republican language, someone they know , someone who will be forceful and aggressively take down trump lie by lie.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,107
    edited June 2023
    Halifix, I really don't get your position here. Would you rather Christie continue supporting Trump?

    These people need someone to tell them the truth for once. It's next to impossible to find someone willing to do that in today's GOP. We should be happy someone, albeit someone with a questionable past, is doing it. 
    No, of course not. But let’s not put him on a pedestal and consider him a saviour because he’s speaking “truth” to delusion. He was all in on POOTWH and would have happily served him in a second term. He’s a bridge too far. And, being in NJ and a former federal prosecutor, he knows all too well POOTWH’s character. He’s a bully opportunist with a narrow view. Fuck him, he’s going to get destroyed down south.


    I did not put Christie on a pedestal, I said that someone needs to forcefully attack trump at the debates, from within the bubble. Someone that has history of speaking the republican language, someone they know , someone who will be forceful and aggressively take down trump lie by lie.
    Did I say that you did? I’m noticing a trend in the media to elevate Christy because he’s speaking “truth” to delusion, seemingly forgetting that he was all in on the delusion when it suited him. Everyone who worked on or in the POOTWH administration is tainted with that stink.

    Does anyone really believe that a Christy administration’s policies would be all that different from POOTWH’s? If you do, I’ve got a bridge I’ll close in your name.

    I will enjoy watching the repubs eat each other and tilt further into delusion because POOTWH is the party favorite.

    ”Let’s,” general. Like general “you.”
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,107
    Chris is polling at 3%. Dead in the water.
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,882
    Any R not named Trump is polling dead in the water.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    Chris is polling at 3%. Dead in the water.
    Who cares? We are happy he's telling maga republicans the truth. I really don't see your point. 
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