---President Elect Musk and Convicted Felon Donald J Trump---

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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,196
    2023
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    this is like my g/f bringing up old shit from a year ago, lol

    i stand corrected.
    that said, this should have happened a long time ago.

    imo getting it right reigns supreme.
    yes, plus we still have georgia case.

    i saw this one espionage charge carries 20 year max.
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  • mickeyrat
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  • mickeyrat
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    ABC News

    Donald Trump indicted for 2nd time, in classified documents investigation: Sources

    The former president said that he is innocent.

    June 8, 2023, 9:45 PM
    1:26

    Can former President Donald Trump run for president again despite indictment?

    Former President Trump has rep...

    Former President Donald Trump has been indicted for a second time, this time on federal charges in relation to his handling of classified information while out of office, sources familiar confirm to ABC News.

    The former president faces at least seven charges, sources tell ABC News, which include willful retention of national defense information, conspiracy to obstruct justice, withholding a document or record, corruptly concealing a document or record, concealing a document in a federal investigation, scheme to conceal, and false statements and representations.

    Maximum sentences for the respective charges, per their statutes, range from five up to 20 years, although any eventual sentence should Trump be convicted would likely be much lower.

    Trump is set to be arraigned in federal court in Miami on Tuesday at 3 p.m. ET, sources said.

    In a statement on social media, Trump wrote Thursday he had been told of the indictment and insisted the case was a "hoax."

    He has repeatedly denied wrongdoing.

    Trump wrote he is "INNOCENT" and it was a "DARK DAY" for the U.S.

    Trump also claimed he is innocent in a video posted to Truth Social, saying: "I am innocent. We will prove that very, very soundly and hopefully very quickly. Thank you very much."

    Spokespeople for the Justice Department and special counsel Jack Smith's office declined to comment on Trump's statement.

    The unprecedented federal indictment of a former president -- who already faces a criminal case in New York City that he denies and who is the current front-runner for the Republican Party's nomination for the White House in 2024 -- further underlines what are potentially the most consequential prosecutions in U.S. history, with both global and domestic implications.

    Experts say a current U.S. government criminally prosecuting its former leader and current leading opposition party candidate upends long-held norms and could test the nation's democratic system in a manner that stretches far beyond the merits of the case itself.

    PHOTO Former President Donald Trump greets supporters at a Team Trump volunteer leadership training event held at the Grimes Community Complex on June 1 2023 in Grimes Iowa
    Former President Donald Trump greets supporters at a Team Trump vo...
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    The federal probe has been led by Smith, who was tapped by Attorney General Merrick Garland in November to oversee the Department of Justice's investigation into Trump's handling of classified documents when his presidency ended.

    Smith is also overseeing the investigation into Trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election results.

    Central to Smith's efforts in the classified documents probe is determining whether lawyers who represented the former president falsely certified in response to a grand jury subpoena that Trump had returned all classified records to the government, or whether Trump himself sought to conceal records he might have unlawfully retained.

    As ABC News previously reported, prosecutors in the special counsel's office have presented compelling preliminary evidence that Trump knowingly and deliberately misled his own attorneys about his retention of classified material after leaving office in early 2021, according to sources who described the contents of a sealed filing from a top federal judge.

    In early 2022, sources told ABC News, National Archives officials asked the Justice Department to investigate Trump's handling of White House records after the National Archives in January retrieved 15 boxes of records from Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida that had been improperly taken in violation of the Presidential Records Act.

    PHOTO Former President Donald Trump speaks at the Conservative Political Action Conference CPAC 2023 March 4 2023 at National Harbor in Oxon Hill Md
    Former President Donald Trump speaks at the Conservative Political Action C...
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    The DOJ probe hit a critical point on Aug. 8, 2022, when Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida was searched by FBI agents.

    Federal investigators seized more than 100 documents with classified markings during the search, according to an unsealed detailed inventory list. From Trump's office alone, there were 43 empty folders seized with classified banners.

    The property inventory list also showed that agents gathered more than 11,000 documents or photographs without classification markings, all of which were described as property of the U.S. government.

    Since the August search, Trump and his legal team have found additional classified documents and have received additional subpoenas for information the government believes could still be in Trump's possession.

    The former president, who in April pleaded not guilty to unrelated criminal charges that he falsified business records in connection with a hush money payment made in the days before the 2016 election, has said he will stay in the 2024 presidential race despite any indictments.

    In addition to Smith's probes, Trump is also under investigation in Georgia over his efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election in that state.

    ABC News' John Santucci and Alexander Mallin contributed to this report.


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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,196
    2023
    mickeyrat said:
    i think maybe iron sheik died yesterday so he could go put the word in to whomever is in charge that robertson and trump needed to be made humble.
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  • curmudgeoness
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    I drank two glasses of champagne during the Bulwark livestream tonight, and I'm not going to regret it at all in the morning.
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  • mickeyrat
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  • mickeyrat
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,366
    2023
    Well, how’s that for fruit from the poisonous tree?
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  • mickeyrat
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  • mickeyrat
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,684
    2025
    mickeyrat said:
    Those are some funny ass post! I’ll celebrate tonight but yesterday was a great day indeed, let’s see how many MAGA idiots boycott CB that’s all you see eating at them on interstate 81 going through Pennsylvania! 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,812
    edited June 2023

    Let's not forget just how big a fucking stink everyone on the right made about Hillary potentially mishandling classified information. 

    "Lock her up" is what they said, IIRC. 

  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,532

    Let's not forget just how big a fucking stink everyone on the right made about Hillary potentially mishandling classified information. 

    "Lock her up" is what they said, IIRC. 


    did they really? I dont recall that.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,250
    2023

    Let's not forget just how big a fucking stink everyone on the right made about Hillary potentially mishandling classified information. 

    "Lock her up" is what they said, IIRC. 

    yeah it's nuts....we heard the lock her up shit for years, then lock up Hunter, now Biden....but don't lock up the motherfucker that steals Nat'l Security docs

    The response from the congressional GOP has been amazing. I saw Rubio put out a stupid statement but McCarthy pretty much said that Biden is trying to put tRump in jail.

    The pattern of the GOP misleading the magats for this guy continues.
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  • Gern Blansten
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    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,250
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • mickeyrat
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,812
    edited June 2023
    mickeyrat said:
    IDK what's more insane, that the GOP are pushing the narrative that it's Biden going after him, or that a healthy portion of the their base will believe it and almost all of them will repeat it whether they believe it or not.  
  • Gern Blansten
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    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • mickeyrat
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