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tempo_n_groove said:cblock4life said:mace1229 said:cblock4life said:mace1229 said:tempo_n_groove said:cblock4life said:My immigration thoughts are definitely tainted.I processed free and reduced meal applications for a school district with over 4500 students and something like 17 different languages being spoken. If I had questions about the application a family member (usually one of the kids) would translate the answers or I would have them come in for a meeting with an ESL teacher/counselor so they could assist them. I remember about 90% of them telling me “god bless you”. American citizens were rude, ignorant, and entitled. So whether a new citizen child or an American child that’s all I could see. The children. If taking shit from an American citizen parent meant their child could eat that day well so be it.Start looking at individuals in front of you as a single human rather than as someone from a group.
It's the strain on the teachers in the schools where it becomes a problem. Kids need structure to learn. Take that from them and you'll get chaos just like the ones the people in charge are doing thinking it's for the best.
Illegal (and probably legal too) immigration disproportionally effects certain communities more and does create a big strain on the services, including education.
Two different schools can have the same budget. One uses a large portion of it for co-teachers and ESL support which leads to over crowded conditions, high teacher turnover, fewer elective options for students, slower pacing for classes, etc. The other can reduce class sizes and keep the building up to date with it, offer more advance classes, keep up with technology, etc. Its a big strain that is rarely acknowledged. And if that other school is in a different district, chances are it will have better pay and retain better teachers as well. Ignoring the stress it creates doesn't help anyone.
And acknowledging it isn't bad. I can see them as individuals and have empathy for what them and understand the strain on resources at the same time.Why isn’t your district or district A above not receiving extra money for ESL students? We had so many grants approved that not one penny of residents money was used for immigrants food or ESL teachers. Now this was ten years ago but I’m fairly certain it’s still budgeted that way.
I could be wrong, but that's how I always thought it worked with that. Food is paid for by a different budget, you are correct about that.
Either way, my point was there is a lot more money that goes into poorer communities than people realize. Those communities with a higher migrant population are often in the lower-income areas.
Schools with low-income families often don't charge for busses, will pay for fees associated with class, will provide students with electronic devices and computers and so many more things other schools don't need to even consider. Schools in upper middle class areas will charge for bussing, don't provide electronics because they can rely on families supplying them. Don't need to provide basic school supplies or personal sporting equipment. Leaves more money for building maintenance and updates. Money for sports and fields and club sponsorship. More money for more elective classes. Money for custodians and providing a cleaner school. And teacher salaries.
Those schools are often all around much better places to attend and work. When money from the budget is being used to provide bussing, class fees, student supplies, student devices, personal sporting equipment, there is no money left for custodians and teacher salaries. The school is outdated, not cleaned, offers fewer electives and honors classes.
That's exactly how 2 schools a few miles from each other can look completely different. Both get the same state and federal funding. One has to use more resources on the students, the other has more to use on the school as a whole.This is NY’s allowable Title I expenses.
We should have a sponsoring system like they do in other countries.
I also think the government should start developing new cities. I always wanted to do that. Plan a brand new city/development.0 -
mace1229 said:tempo_n_groove said:cblock4life said:mace1229 said:cblock4life said:mace1229 said:tempo_n_groove said:cblock4life said:My immigration thoughts are definitely tainted.I processed free and reduced meal applications for a school district with over 4500 students and something like 17 different languages being spoken. If I had questions about the application a family member (usually one of the kids) would translate the answers or I would have them come in for a meeting with an ESL teacher/counselor so they could assist them. I remember about 90% of them telling me “god bless you”. American citizens were rude, ignorant, and entitled. So whether a new citizen child or an American child that’s all I could see. The children. If taking shit from an American citizen parent meant their child could eat that day well so be it.Start looking at individuals in front of you as a single human rather than as someone from a group.
It's the strain on the teachers in the schools where it becomes a problem. Kids need structure to learn. Take that from them and you'll get chaos just like the ones the people in charge are doing thinking it's for the best.
Illegal (and probably legal too) immigration disproportionally effects certain communities more and does create a big strain on the services, including education.
Two different schools can have the same budget. One uses a large portion of it for co-teachers and ESL support which leads to over crowded conditions, high teacher turnover, fewer elective options for students, slower pacing for classes, etc. The other can reduce class sizes and keep the building up to date with it, offer more advance classes, keep up with technology, etc. Its a big strain that is rarely acknowledged. And if that other school is in a different district, chances are it will have better pay and retain better teachers as well. Ignoring the stress it creates doesn't help anyone.
And acknowledging it isn't bad. I can see them as individuals and have empathy for what them and understand the strain on resources at the same time.Why isn’t your district or district A above not receiving extra money for ESL students? We had so many grants approved that not one penny of residents money was used for immigrants food or ESL teachers. Now this was ten years ago but I’m fairly certain it’s still budgeted that way.
I could be wrong, but that's how I always thought it worked with that. Food is paid for by a different budget, you are correct about that.
Either way, my point was there is a lot more money that goes into poorer communities than people realize. Those communities with a higher migrant population are often in the lower-income areas.
Schools with low-income families often don't charge for busses, will pay for fees associated with class, will provide students with electronic devices and computers and so many more things other schools don't need to even consider. Schools in upper middle class areas will charge for bussing, don't provide electronics because they can rely on families supplying them. Don't need to provide basic school supplies or personal sporting equipment. Leaves more money for building maintenance and updates. Money for sports and fields and club sponsorship. More money for more elective classes. Money for custodians and providing a cleaner school. And teacher salaries.
Those schools are often all around much better places to attend and work. When money from the budget is being used to provide bussing, class fees, student supplies, student devices, personal sporting equipment, there is no money left for custodians and teacher salaries. The school is outdated, not cleaned, offers fewer electives and honors classes.
That's exactly how 2 schools a few miles from each other can look completely different. Both get the same state and federal funding. One has to use more resources on the students, the other has more to use on the school as a whole.This is NY’s allowable Title I expenses.
We should have a sponsoring system like they do in other countries.
I also think the government should start developing new cities. I always wanted to do that. Plan a brand new city/development.
This is my thinking and I could be totally wrong.0 -
tempo_n_groove said:mace1229 said:tempo_n_groove said:cblock4life said:mace1229 said:cblock4life said:mace1229 said:tempo_n_groove said:cblock4life said:My immigration thoughts are definitely tainted.I processed free and reduced meal applications for a school district with over 4500 students and something like 17 different languages being spoken. If I had questions about the application a family member (usually one of the kids) would translate the answers or I would have them come in for a meeting with an ESL teacher/counselor so they could assist them. I remember about 90% of them telling me “god bless you”. American citizens were rude, ignorant, and entitled. So whether a new citizen child or an American child that’s all I could see. The children. If taking shit from an American citizen parent meant their child could eat that day well so be it.Start looking at individuals in front of you as a single human rather than as someone from a group.
It's the strain on the teachers in the schools where it becomes a problem. Kids need structure to learn. Take that from them and you'll get chaos just like the ones the people in charge are doing thinking it's for the best.
Illegal (and probably legal too) immigration disproportionally effects certain communities more and does create a big strain on the services, including education.
Two different schools can have the same budget. One uses a large portion of it for co-teachers and ESL support which leads to over crowded conditions, high teacher turnover, fewer elective options for students, slower pacing for classes, etc. The other can reduce class sizes and keep the building up to date with it, offer more advance classes, keep up with technology, etc. Its a big strain that is rarely acknowledged. And if that other school is in a different district, chances are it will have better pay and retain better teachers as well. Ignoring the stress it creates doesn't help anyone.
And acknowledging it isn't bad. I can see them as individuals and have empathy for what them and understand the strain on resources at the same time.Why isn’t your district or district A above not receiving extra money for ESL students? We had so many grants approved that not one penny of residents money was used for immigrants food or ESL teachers. Now this was ten years ago but I’m fairly certain it’s still budgeted that way.
I could be wrong, but that's how I always thought it worked with that. Food is paid for by a different budget, you are correct about that.
Either way, my point was there is a lot more money that goes into poorer communities than people realize. Those communities with a higher migrant population are often in the lower-income areas.
Schools with low-income families often don't charge for busses, will pay for fees associated with class, will provide students with electronic devices and computers and so many more things other schools don't need to even consider. Schools in upper middle class areas will charge for bussing, don't provide electronics because they can rely on families supplying them. Don't need to provide basic school supplies or personal sporting equipment. Leaves more money for building maintenance and updates. Money for sports and fields and club sponsorship. More money for more elective classes. Money for custodians and providing a cleaner school. And teacher salaries.
Those schools are often all around much better places to attend and work. When money from the budget is being used to provide bussing, class fees, student supplies, student devices, personal sporting equipment, there is no money left for custodians and teacher salaries. The school is outdated, not cleaned, offers fewer electives and honors classes.
That's exactly how 2 schools a few miles from each other can look completely different. Both get the same state and federal funding. One has to use more resources on the students, the other has more to use on the school as a whole.This is NY’s allowable Title I expenses.
We should have a sponsoring system like they do in other countries.
I also think the government should start developing new cities. I always wanted to do that. Plan a brand new city/development.
This is my thinking and I could be totally wrong.
All kidding aside, developing new cities requires more than a bunch of immigrants. The whole infrastructure, schools, public services and utilities all have to be set up. You can't expect a bunch of immigrants to just show up and do all that. Schools with a large immigrant population struggle enough, I can't imagine one that was designed solely for that.
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mace1229 said:tempo_n_groove said:mace1229 said:tempo_n_groove said:cblock4life said:mace1229 said:cblock4life said:mace1229 said:tempo_n_groove said:cblock4life said:My immigration thoughts are definitely tainted.I processed free and reduced meal applications for a school district with over 4500 students and something like 17 different languages being spoken. If I had questions about the application a family member (usually one of the kids) would translate the answers or I would have them come in for a meeting with an ESL teacher/counselor so they could assist them. I remember about 90% of them telling me “god bless you”. American citizens were rude, ignorant, and entitled. So whether a new citizen child or an American child that’s all I could see. The children. If taking shit from an American citizen parent meant their child could eat that day well so be it.Start looking at individuals in front of you as a single human rather than as someone from a group.
It's the strain on the teachers in the schools where it becomes a problem. Kids need structure to learn. Take that from them and you'll get chaos just like the ones the people in charge are doing thinking it's for the best.
Illegal (and probably legal too) immigration disproportionally effects certain communities more and does create a big strain on the services, including education.
Two different schools can have the same budget. One uses a large portion of it for co-teachers and ESL support which leads to over crowded conditions, high teacher turnover, fewer elective options for students, slower pacing for classes, etc. The other can reduce class sizes and keep the building up to date with it, offer more advance classes, keep up with technology, etc. Its a big strain that is rarely acknowledged. And if that other school is in a different district, chances are it will have better pay and retain better teachers as well. Ignoring the stress it creates doesn't help anyone.
And acknowledging it isn't bad. I can see them as individuals and have empathy for what them and understand the strain on resources at the same time.Why isn’t your district or district A above not receiving extra money for ESL students? We had so many grants approved that not one penny of residents money was used for immigrants food or ESL teachers. Now this was ten years ago but I’m fairly certain it’s still budgeted that way.
I could be wrong, but that's how I always thought it worked with that. Food is paid for by a different budget, you are correct about that.
Either way, my point was there is a lot more money that goes into poorer communities than people realize. Those communities with a higher migrant population are often in the lower-income areas.
Schools with low-income families often don't charge for busses, will pay for fees associated with class, will provide students with electronic devices and computers and so many more things other schools don't need to even consider. Schools in upper middle class areas will charge for bussing, don't provide electronics because they can rely on families supplying them. Don't need to provide basic school supplies or personal sporting equipment. Leaves more money for building maintenance and updates. Money for sports and fields and club sponsorship. More money for more elective classes. Money for custodians and providing a cleaner school. And teacher salaries.
Those schools are often all around much better places to attend and work. When money from the budget is being used to provide bussing, class fees, student supplies, student devices, personal sporting equipment, there is no money left for custodians and teacher salaries. The school is outdated, not cleaned, offers fewer electives and honors classes.
That's exactly how 2 schools a few miles from each other can look completely different. Both get the same state and federal funding. One has to use more resources on the students, the other has more to use on the school as a whole.This is NY’s allowable Title I expenses.
We should have a sponsoring system like they do in other countries.
I also think the government should start developing new cities. I always wanted to do that. Plan a brand new city/development.
This is my thinking and I could be totally wrong.
All kidding aside, developing new cities requires more than a bunch of immigrants. The whole infrastructure, schools, public services and utilities all have to be set up. You can't expect a bunch of immigrants to just show up and do all that. Schools with a large immigrant population struggle enough, I can't imagine one that was designed solely for that.
I know we made buildings like this in the 60's and 70's to disastrous results so maybe my idea isn't so good. You call these developments "projects" now.0 -
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mickeyrat said:0
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '140 -
mace1229 said:tempo_n_groove said:cblock4life said:mace1229 said:cblock4life said:mace1229 said:tempo_n_groove said:cblock4life said:My immigration thoughts are definitely tainted.I processed free and reduced meal applications for a school district with over 4500 students and something like 17 different languages being spoken. If I had questions about the application a family member (usually one of the kids) would translate the answers or I would have them come in for a meeting with an ESL teacher/counselor so they could assist them. I remember about 90% of them telling me “god bless you”. American citizens were rude, ignorant, and entitled. So whether a new citizen child or an American child that’s all I could see. The children. If taking shit from an American citizen parent meant their child could eat that day well so be it.Start looking at individuals in front of you as a single human rather than as someone from a group.
It's the strain on the teachers in the schools where it becomes a problem. Kids need structure to learn. Take that from them and you'll get chaos just like the ones the people in charge are doing thinking it's for the best.
Illegal (and probably legal too) immigration disproportionally effects certain communities more and does create a big strain on the services, including education.
Two different schools can have the same budget. One uses a large portion of it for co-teachers and ESL support which leads to over crowded conditions, high teacher turnover, fewer elective options for students, slower pacing for classes, etc. The other can reduce class sizes and keep the building up to date with it, offer more advance classes, keep up with technology, etc. Its a big strain that is rarely acknowledged. And if that other school is in a different district, chances are it will have better pay and retain better teachers as well. Ignoring the stress it creates doesn't help anyone.
And acknowledging it isn't bad. I can see them as individuals and have empathy for what them and understand the strain on resources at the same time.Why isn’t your district or district A above not receiving extra money for ESL students? We had so many grants approved that not one penny of residents money was used for immigrants food or ESL teachers. Now this was ten years ago but I’m fairly certain it’s still budgeted that way.
I could be wrong, but that's how I always thought it worked with that. Food is paid for by a different budget, you are correct about that.
Either way, my point was there is a lot more money that goes into poorer communities than people realize. Those communities with a higher migrant population are often in the lower-income areas.
Schools with low-income families often don't charge for busses, will pay for fees associated with class, will provide students with electronic devices and computers and so many more things other schools don't need to even consider. Schools in upper middle class areas will charge for bussing, don't provide electronics because they can rely on families supplying them. Don't need to provide basic school supplies or personal sporting equipment. Leaves more money for building maintenance and updates. Money for sports and fields and club sponsorship. More money for more elective classes. Money for custodians and providing a cleaner school. And teacher salaries.
Those schools are often all around much better places to attend and work. When money from the budget is being used to provide bussing, class fees, student supplies, student devices, personal sporting equipment, there is no money left for custodians and teacher salaries. The school is outdated, not cleaned, offers fewer electives and honors classes.
That's exactly how 2 schools a few miles from each other can look completely different. Both get the same state and federal funding. One has to use more resources on the students, the other has more to use on the school as a whole.This is NY’s allowable Title I expenses.
We should have a sponsoring system like they do in other countries.
I also think the government should start developing new cities. I always wanted to do that. Plan a brand new city/development.Scio me nihil scire
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Halifax2TheMax said:Bentleyspop said:0
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What will Abbot do next to control the crossing? Add alligators? Why not just shoot on site pick them off while they are crossing.
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josevolution said:What will Abbot do next to control the crossing? Add alligators? Why not just shoot on site pick them off while they are crossing.0
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Bentleyspop said:josevolution said:What will Abbot do next to control the crossing? Add alligators? Why not just shoot on site pick them off while they are crossing.jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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I was just in Manhattan for work at 46th and 5th ave.
This is where the most expensive commercial real-estate exists.
Upon looking around I had passed a block that was lined with scooters. Something you normally see in less affluent areas. An unusual amount of Hispanic people. NY is a melting pot and you have pockets of different ethnicities but not in the heart of Midtown.
I asked the grounds operator about the seemingly large amount of Hispanics and he pointed to the hotel across the street. It has become an asylum seeker house.
The state had obtained the rooms to help out the asylum seekers.
They have made a local hangout for themselves at one of the spots and the scooters I learned were delivery vehicles for some of them.
I don't see how that any of them upon being given asylum can maintain living out there. Sometimes where we place people is absurd.0 -
tempo_n_groove said:I was just in Manhattan for work at 46th and 5th ave.
This is where the most expensive commercial real-estate exists.
Upon looking around I had passed a block that was lined with scooters. Something you normally see in less affluent areas. An unusual amount of Hispanic people. NY is a melting pot and you have pockets of different ethnicities but not in the heart of Midtown.
I asked the grounds operator about the seemingly large amount of Hispanics and he pointed to the hotel across the street. It has become an asylum seeker house.
The state had obtained the rooms to help out the asylum seekers.
They have made a local hangout for themselves at one of the spots and the scooters I learned were delivery vehicles for some of them.
I don't see how that any of them upon being given asylum can maintain living out there. Sometimes where we place people is absurd.temporary by design, semi-permanent in practice.but lets for a moment remove the who and replace with a generic marker of these human beings, aspiring americans. The degree of work and effort to make it here they will by and large put in is laudable, no? Dont we WANT those types of go-getters here to fuel the "American Dream" of freedom , to keep things moving right along?
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mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:I was just in Manhattan for work at 46th and 5th ave.
This is where the most expensive commercial real-estate exists.
Upon looking around I had passed a block that was lined with scooters. Something you normally see in less affluent areas. An unusual amount of Hispanic people. NY is a melting pot and you have pockets of different ethnicities but not in the heart of Midtown.
I asked the grounds operator about the seemingly large amount of Hispanics and he pointed to the hotel across the street. It has become an asylum seeker house.
The state had obtained the rooms to help out the asylum seekers.
They have made a local hangout for themselves at one of the spots and the scooters I learned were delivery vehicles for some of them.
I don't see how that any of them upon being given asylum can maintain living out there. Sometimes where we place people is absurd.temporary by design, semi-permanent in practice.but lets for a moment remove the who and replace with a generic marker of these human beings, aspiring americans. The degree of work and effort to make it here they will by and large put in is laudable, no? Dont we WANT those types of go-getters here to fuel the "American Dream" of freedom , to keep things moving right along?
I sometimes think most of the objections of those born here is centered on these hard working people making them look bad in their laziness by comparison.....
NY is an expensive place to live and unless you have an amazing job or have a good network it might take them a few generations to get established.
So yes, if you want them to succeed and really want to help, NYC's midtown might not be the ideal place to try this out.0 -
tempo_n_groove said:Halifax2TheMax said:Bentleyspop said:0
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mace1229 said:tempo_n_groove said:Halifax2TheMax said:Bentleyspop said:0
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