2025-2026 NHL Offseason

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  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    edited May 2023
    bluetuned said:
    Vitalogensia said:
    bluetuned said:
    I'd be on board 100% for Seattle winning before Vegas after Vegas sold their soul to try and win immediately.
    How ya figure Vegas sold their soul?
    It might be a personal problem, haha, but I just feel like they really spoiled the goodwill that they had when they entered the league. That first season was such a great story of castoffs who took the team to the Final. Ever since then the ownership has been clearly hellbent on getting back no matter the cost.

    -Unceremoniously dumped Gerard Gallant a year and a half after he coached them to the Final (and then did the same to Pete DeBoer later).
    -Brought in Robin Lehner as competition for Marc-Andre Fleury mid-season, and then dumped Fleury a year later for cap space even after he won the Vezina.
    -Acquired every shiny new toy they could find on the market (Pacioretty, Pietrangelo, Stone, Eichel, Lehner) even if it meant getting rid of a bunch of the guys that they had success with originally (Tuch, Schmidt, Haula) or even guys they only recently picked up (Stastny, Tatar, Pacioretty again).
    -Stashing players on LTIR to circumvent the salary cap like they did this year with Stone, who is miraculously healthy right in time for the playoffs when the cap is no longer an issue.

    It all just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. They were fun to root for at first but now they barely have anyone left from that group. it just seems like they're trying to buy a Cup, as much as you can do that in the NHL anyway.
    Agreed.  It’s like the ‘94 New York Oilers, only they can’t completely pilfer the Lightning because they find creative ways to circumvent the cap (something Vegas took notes on with less successful results). 
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  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    edited May 2023
    Double post
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,864
    josevolution said:
    Yeah I’m rooting for Seattle love seeing a team that has never won it lift the cup! 
    The team is brans spanking new, of course they haven't won, lol.
  • a5pj
    a5pj Hershey PA Posts: 3,977
    Canes looked great last night! Played the system right, play fast and never give up, totally hemmed the devil in their own zone most of the night.

    Thanks for the recap about Seattle, had no idea they've moved on so many good players. But they're playing within the "rules"  but with such turnover I'd think it'd be pretty easy to get bad real quick. Building a system with depth seems to keep teams in the hunt for many years at a time. I'm thinking of the Red Wings before Blashill and Holland's terrible decisions a few years ago.
    Wouldn't it be funny if the world ended in 2010, with lots of fire?



  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    a5pj said:
    Canes looked great last night! Played the system right, play fast and never give up, totally hemmed the devil in their own zone most of the night.

    Thanks for the recap about Seattle, had no idea they've moved on so many good players. But they're playing within the "rules"  but with such turnover I'd think it'd be pretty easy to get bad real quick. Building a system with depth seems to keep teams in the hunt for many years at a time. I'm thinking of the Red Wings before Blashill and Holland's terrible decisions a few years ago.
    Detroit was in the same position that Pittsburgh and Washington is in now. You have a core of aging star players and you do whatever you can to hold it together as long as you can. Trading high draft picks for plug and play role players for a few last chances at glory.  As Detroit has shown, full rebuilds don’t always go as planned, but Stevie Y will get that program back on track. 

    Can’t blame Blashill for that really. As for the Holland, the GM is in a tough spot there as I’m sure the Illitch family had some say in the direction of the team. Owners want to win and sell tickets, and star players do that for them. 
  • a5pj
    a5pj Hershey PA Posts: 3,977
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    a5pj said:
    Canes looked great last night! Played the system right, play fast and never give up, totally hemmed the devil in their own zone most of the night.

    Thanks for the recap about Seattle, had no idea they've moved on so many good players. But they're playing within the "rules"  but with such turnover I'd think it'd be pretty easy to get bad real quick. Building a system with depth seems to keep teams in the hunt for many years at a time. I'm thinking of the Red Wings before Blashill and Holland's terrible decisions a few years ago.
    Detroit was in the same position that Pittsburgh and Washington is in now. You have a core of aging star players and you do whatever you can to hold it together as long as you can. Trading high draft picks for plug and play role players for a few last chances at glory.  As Detroit has shown, full rebuilds don’t always go as planned, but Stevie Y will get that program back on track. 

    Can’t blame Blashill for that really. As for the Holland, the GM is in a tough spot there as I’m sure the Illitch family had some say in the direction of the team. Owners want to win and sell tickets, and star players do that for them. 
    Yeah there's a lot more to it than a quick recap by just a lowly fan like me lol. We forget they're people too and want to live / play / have careers / family in different places.
    Wouldn't it be funny if the world ended in 2010, with lots of fire?



  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,445

  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,627
    nicknyr15 said:


    ESPN sucks at hockey. "my" VGK hometown announcers are MUCH better than the ESPN crews.
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
    Missoula 24
  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,632
    tempo_n_groove said:
    josevolution said:
    Yeah I’m rooting for Seattle love seeing a team that has never won it lift the cup! 
    The team is brans spanking new, of course they haven't won, lol.

    Vegas has never won. I think The Panthers have never won either. Have the Hurricanes ever won it?
    8/28/98- Camden, NJ
    10/31/09- Philly
    5/21/10- NYC
    9/2/12- Philly, PA
    7/19/13- Wrigley
    10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
    10/21/13- Philly, PA
    10/22/13- Philly, PA
    10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
    4/28/16- Philly, PA
    4/29/16- Philly, PA
    5/1/16- NYC
    5/2/16- NYC
    9/2/18- Boston, MA
    9/4/18- Boston, MA
    9/14/22- Camden, NJ
    9/7/24- Philly, PA
    9/9/24- Philly, PA
    Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
    Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
    RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
  • bluetuned
    bluetuned Chicago Posts: 33
    eeriepadave said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    josevolution said:
    Yeah I’m rooting for Seattle love seeing a team that has never won it lift the cup! 
    The team is brans spanking new, of course they haven't won, lol.

    Vegas has never won. I think The Panthers have never won either. Have the Hurricanes ever won it?
    Canes won in 2006.

    Vegas, Seattle, and Florida haven't won.

    Toronto last won in the '60s, Edmonton in 1990, Dallas in 1999, and NJ in 2003.
  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    RIP Petr Klima. 

    Never forget that OT goal against Boston in the finals after he road the bench for three periods. Legendary 
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    Wobbie said:
    nicknyr15 said:


    ESPN sucks at hockey. "my" VGK hometown announcers are MUCH better than the ESPN crews.
    Dave Goucher?
  • nautical_disaster
    nautical_disaster Posts: 348
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    RIP Petr Klima. 

    Never forget that OT goal against Boston in the finals after he road the bench for three periods. Legendary 
    If my memory serves correctly, the coach had benched him, and that was like his third shift in that triple ot session lol. I'll always remember Bob Cole's call "Petrrrrrrrr Klimaaaaa!" RIP to the Boston Bruins killer. 

    (2000) Mansfield I, Mansfield II (2003) Montreal (2005) Montreal, Ottawa (2006) Albany (2008) Montreal I + II (EV) (2022) Québec City


  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    edited May 2023
    nautical_disaster said:
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    RIP Petr Klima. 

    Never forget that OT goal against Boston in the finals after he road the bench for three periods. Legendary 
    If my memory serves correctly, the coach had benched him, and that was like his third shift in that triple ot session lol. I'll always remember Bob Cole's call "Petrrrrrrrr Klimaaaaa!" RIP to the Boston Bruins killer. 
    You bet! I think John Muckler was the Oilers coach. Imagine sitting there watching an entire game from the bench and then scoring a triple OT winning goal. Petr was an enigma… lots of talent. I copied his striped stick tape, which pissed my coach off to no end lol. Not really sure why, hockey people were generally just too conservative for my liking. It’s a game for fuck sakes. 

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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 18,031
    The thing still burned in my brain from that Klima game came in the first OT:

    https://youtu.be/LbXq_Zn5QFg
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • nautical_disaster
    nautical_disaster Posts: 348
    Oh man i remember that stick tape job haha!

    (2000) Mansfield I, Mansfield II (2003) Montreal (2005) Montreal, Ottawa (2006) Albany (2008) Montreal I + II (EV) (2022) Québec City


  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    Poncier said:
    The thing still burned in my brain from that Klima game came in the first OT:

    https://youtu.be/LbXq_Zn5QFg
    That’s a tough one, but every hockey player has missed a wide open net. You never really forget them either lol. 
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 18,031
    But missing that wide open net in OT of game 1 of the cup finals makes it a bit harder to forget.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • nautical_disaster
    nautical_disaster Posts: 348
    I still can't believe he missed the net

    (2000) Mansfield I, Mansfield II (2003) Montreal (2005) Montreal, Ottawa (2006) Albany (2008) Montreal I + II (EV) (2022) Québec City


  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,627
    Merkin Baller said:
    Wobbie said:
    nicknyr15 said:


    ESPN sucks at hockey. "my" VGK hometown announcers are MUCH better than the ESPN crews.
    Dave Goucher?
    he’s one of them. I’ll take him over steve levy.

    edmonton PP is scary. VGK, better 5 on 5.
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
    Missoula 24

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