Official 2023 Ticket Lottery Results Thread

Eddieredder said:

PJNB said:

Eddieredder said:

madtowndave said:

I'm very interested to see the locations and pricing of the Platinum tickets. I think this is having a serious impact on locations - among other dropped balls. I dug through my stubs and with 416xxx here's what I had at the UC in 09: night 1 - section 303 and night 2 - section 101. In StP in 2014, I was very happy with my seats in 117. I was expecting at least the same, but again - I'm happy I did not get shutout for my 2 StP selections for this tour.

It will be interesting. For the Earthlings Benaroya show it was pretty random where they were. Kind of all over the place. Small venue and different situation of course. 

This will likely be comparable to MSG and get most of the best seats in the house plus a bunch of shit seats for crazy prices. 

Right. A few rows here and there. Some good and overpriced, some bad and crazy overpriced. Just seen some false narratives that entire sections might be premium (maybe), but thats never been my experience. 

JBob87 said:

Eddieredder said:

PJNB said:

Eddieredder said:

madtowndave said:

I'm very interested to see the locations and pricing of the Platinum tickets. I think this is having a serious impact on locations - among other dropped balls. I dug through my stubs and with 416xxx here's what I had at the UC in 09: night 1 - section 303 and night 2 - section 101. In StP in 2014, I was very happy with my seats in 117. I was expecting at least the same, but again - I'm happy I did not get shutout for my 2 StP selections for this tour.

It will be interesting. For the Earthlings Benaroya show it was pretty random where they were. Kind of all over the place. Small venue and different situation of course. 

This will likely be comparable to MSG and get most of the best seats in the house plus a bunch of shit seats for crazy prices. 

Right. A few rows here and there. Some good and overpriced, some bad and crazy overpriced. Just seen some false narratives that entire sections might be premium (maybe), but thats never been my experience. 

While you are no doubt likely correct they don’t usually release all the Premium tickets up front the way they do with regular. They intentionally hold back supply to drive FOMO only releasing partial groupings at a time. In reality they could be planning to sell an entire section but only doing so a row or two at a time. “Demand based pricing” where they completely manipulate the market. I have no idea how it is legal but the government in our country doesn’t exactly work anymore and certainly not for the people so why would that change. 

Ryan said:

I missed Austin 1 with my second choice, and see a few pages back someone got it with their third choice.  

madtowndave said:

I'm very interested to see the locations and pricing of the Platinum tickets. I think this is having a serious impact on locations - among other dropped balls. I dug through my stubs and with 416xxx here's what I had at the UC in 09: night 1 - section 303 and night 2 - section 101. In StP in 2014, I was very happy with my seats in 117. I was expecting at least the same, but again - I'm happy I did not get shutout for my 2 StP selections for this tour.

machinehum said:

on2legs said:

Doug87 said:

on2legs said:

Doug87 said:

Doug87 said:

logan5ive said:

on2legs said:

I’m not seeing any shows this tour but I feel awful for how this turned out for everyone.  

Two thoughts come to mind…

1.  It’s extremely important that seniority be honored for seating assignment.  Not only does it show loyalty to fans, but more importantly seniority is why people renew their memberships every year.  We pay dues every year - even when there are no tours. Sometimes it’s 3,4, or 5 years between tours in some areas.  If you fail to honor seniority for seat assignment then there’s zero incentive to keep your membership active in non touring years.  Instead we could just renew when the tour rumors begin and take random seat assignments. 

2. The fiasco created here by Ticketmaster is another example of why monopolies are so bad.  It’s not just that we are forced to pay whatever fees they feel like charging, but there is really no alternative for the next tour.  In any other business, the ten club would seek out another vendor to handle its business after the way Ticketmaster botched this sale.  But the reality is there are no alternatives.  They have no choice but to go back to Ticketmaster on the next tour. So there’s zero incentive for TM to spend the money to fix what went wrong and we will get more of the same awful service next time. 

100%.

I’m going to respectfully disagree that there are no alternatives to handle the lottery process.

There are plenty of other vendors that could more efficiently handle this process.

much smaller bands, but have seen My Morning Jacket, Primus, and Wilco use Music Today with great success and later those other tickets were sold by Ticketmaster so that would be an option.

on a larger scale, Radiohead doesn’t do a lottery but sells tickets through their own store Waste, with great success too, especially in the days where you got a date for when it would go live but not a time (if willing to be dedicated and stay up, you likely got tickets).

I get the TM hate, but I think it’s likely clear that there was a communication gap between 10 Club and TM at least in the initial set up stages to tell them exactly how to run this process, step by step.

that’s on Ten Club. TM is very clear that they execute to whatever the artist tells them. If the artists doesn’t provide enough specifics, that’s when things get fucked up.

truly believe the origin of this mess likely belong to Ten Club for not being super clear up front, as most of us could have managed this better with a spreadsheet based on knowing how the process is supposed to be executed.

Think about it this way, how many times, at your work, have you seen the simplest things get fucked up because someone wasn’t given enough context, instruction, or guidance.

for me, it’s at minimum a weekly occurrence and maybe even daily (though smaller scale stuff obviously).

All Ticketmaster does is sell tickets.  It’s not like they asked Home Depot to handle the ticket sales.  Not sure how much context, instruction, or guidance you need for this considering TM has handled the ticket lottery and seat assignment for past tours. This is clearly on TM. 

You really think that after reading all the prioritization complaints and people who didn’t get tickets assigned correctly?

I’d almost guarantee that Ten Club said here’s our instructions for people, now you do the behind the scenes. Not contemplating that they don’t know to:

- draw priority 1 and so on before everyone else
- get total pool and THEN assign seats

Seems pretty clear to me at least that there was a lack of understanding of specifics required.

where that misunderstanding originated, I can’t determine for sure.

Ticketmaster has handled the fan club tickets on prior tours.  They can't act like George Costanza and say... "Was seniority supposed to be considered? Were we really supposed to pay attention to priority?  I tell ya, Ten Club... we have to claim ignorance on this one, because if we had only known..."

The text on the FAQ regarding how the lottery worked, especially with regard to priority, changed drastically from last time around. It's clear that, probably via the negotiations to secure more tickets for members, 10C and TM agreed on changes to how the draw works, how priority was factored in, and probably what seats would be included (e.g. sacrificing some of the better seats to TM Premium to get more for 10C overall) -- and whatever changes were made were badly botched. 

iOnlyownMymind said:

madtowndave said:

I'm very interested to see the locations and pricing of the Platinum tickets. I think this is having a serious impact on locations - among other dropped balls. I dug through my stubs and with 416xxx here's what I had at the UC in 09: night 1 - section 303 and night 2 - section 101. In StP in 2014, I was very happy with my seats in 117. I was expecting at least the same, but again - I'm happy I did not get shutout for my 2 StP selections for this tour.

10c said 10% allocated for Premium so roughly 2,000 seats at Saint Paul or Chicago.  Big reason everyone is further back than they are used to. Gotta figure the band booked so many weeknight shows to cut costs, plus more jacked up Premium tickets so they still make a bunch of money while only doing 9 shows. Sucks for the fans but tickets a little further back while still being somewhat reasonable price is about all we can hope for these days. 

BloodMeridian80 said:

iOnlyownMymind said:

madtowndave said:

I'm very interested to see the locations and pricing of the Platinum tickets. I think this is having a serious impact on locations - among other dropped balls. I dug through my stubs and with 416xxx here's what I had at the UC in 09: night 1 - section 303 and night 2 - section 101. In StP in 2014, I was very happy with my seats in 117. I was expecting at least the same, but again - I'm happy I did not get shutout for my 2 StP selections for this tour.

10c said 10% allocated for Premium so roughly 2,000 seats at Saint Paul or Chicago.  Big reason everyone is further back than they are used to. Gotta figure the band booked so many weeknight shows to cut costs, plus more jacked up Premium tickets so they still make a bunch of money while only doing 9 shows. Sucks for the fans but tickets a little further back while still being somewhat reasonable price is about all we can hope for these days. 

I think most are prepared for the fact that seats have become a little worse with every tour for multiple reasons. That's not what happened to many people in this situation.

iOnlyownMymind said:

BloodMeridian80 said:

iOnlyownMymind said:

madtowndave said:

I'm very interested to see the locations and pricing of the Platinum tickets. I think this is having a serious impact on locations - among other dropped balls. I dug through my stubs and with 416xxx here's what I had at the UC in 09: night 1 - section 303 and night 2 - section 101. In StP in 2014, I was very happy with my seats in 117. I was expecting at least the same, but again - I'm happy I did not get shutout for my 2 StP selections for this tour.

10c said 10% allocated for Premium so roughly 2,000 seats at Saint Paul or Chicago.  Big reason everyone is further back than they are used to. Gotta figure the band booked so many weeknight shows to cut costs, plus more jacked up Premium tickets so they still make a bunch of money while only doing 9 shows. Sucks for the fans but tickets a little further back while still being somewhat reasonable price is about all we can hope for these days. 

I think most are prepared for the fact that seats have become a little worse with every tour for multiple reasons. That's not what happened to many people in this situation.

Totally agree, but there will definitely be a lot of Premium seats in the best sections is all I'm saying.