Does anyone know if entering the lottery for a single instit.ead of a pair improves your odds?
I am assuming that they do the normal lottery draw with everyone one in the pool of possible winners. Would they possible go back and then “fill in the gaps” by drawing again from the pool of people who only posted for singles?
It does not.... that has been stated few times in instruction
Yes, you can participate in the verified fan sale after winning the 10c lottery. There is a four ticket limit for these shows and you can only win two through 10c, so you can buy two more through verified fan.
This plus it looks like VF sign up and lotto will be after we know our seats for 10C. That is great news for most of us trying to figure out what else we need to pick up in VF for tickets.
You think everyone will just magically get VF access?
In 2022 I sent a picture of all my PJ vinyl all.my PJ ticket stubs. Still didn't get VF access.
What's a fan to do?
The actual TM algorithm doesn't reward the true or long time fans. The algorithm recognizes that someone who buys alot of tickets (i.e. I've bought lots of Springsteen tickets over 95 shows) as a scalper. That's why the label doesn't refer to real fans... just whomever is lucky enough to get name drawn. And yes, resellers get tix thru VF all the time
It was a joke Meant to show how absurd the whole VF thing is. I'm a veteran of 200+ Springsteen shows over 48 years. 100+ U2 shows over 40+ years and 100+ PJ shows over 30+ years and have never gotten VF access. In the long run I haven't needed it.
But watch the pandemonium, the complaining, and the conspiracy theories when people don't get the tickets to the shows they want.
Why even bother with VF when F2F is so accessible and more often than not fruitful.
I guess you weren't trying for Baltimore??? That was exponentially worse than F5
Yes, you can participate in the verified fan sale after winning the 10c lottery. There is a four ticket limit for these shows and you can only win two through 10c, so you can buy two more through verified fan.
This plus it looks like VF sign up and lotto will be after we know our seats for 10C. That is great news for most of us trying to figure out what else we need to pick up in VF for tickets.
You think everyone will just magically get VF access?
In 2022 I sent a picture of all my PJ vinyl all.my PJ ticket stubs. Still didn't get VF access.
What's a fan to do?
The actual TM algorithm doesn't reward the true or long time fans. The algorithm recognizes that someone who buys alot of tickets (i.e. I've bought lots of Springsteen tickets over 95 shows) as a scalper. That's why the label doesn't refer to real fans... just whomever is lucky enough to get name drawn. And yes, resellers get tix thru VF all the time
It was a joke Meant to show how absurd the whole VF thing is. I'm a veteran of 200+ Springsteen shows over 48 years. 100+ U2 shows over 40+ years and 100+ PJ shows over 30+ years and have never gotten VF access. In the long run I haven't needed it.
But watch the pandemonium, the complaining, and the conspiracy theories when people don't get the tickets to the shows they want.
Why even bother with VF when F2F is so accessible and more often than not fruitful.
I use TM for drops as shows approach. Patience has its rewards
Yes, you can participate in the verified fan sale after winning the 10c lottery. There is a four ticket limit for these shows and you can only win two through 10c, so you can buy two more through verified fan.
This plus it looks like VF sign up and lotto will be after we know our seats for 10C. That is great news for most of us trying to figure out what else we need to pick up in VF for tickets.
You think everyone will just magically get VF access?
In 2022 I sent a picture of all my PJ vinyl all.my PJ ticket stubs. Still didn't get VF access.
What's a fan to do?
The actual TM algorithm doesn't reward the true or long time fans. The algorithm recognizes that someone who buys alot of tickets (i.e. I've bought lots of Springsteen tickets over 95 shows) as a scalper. That's why the label doesn't refer to real fans... just whomever is lucky enough to get name drawn. And yes, resellers get tix thru VF all the time
It was a joke Meant to show how absurd the whole VF thing is. I'm a veteran of 200+ Springsteen shows over 48 years. 100+ U2 shows over 40+ years and 100+ PJ shows over 30+ years and have never gotten VF access. In the long run I haven't needed it.
But watch the pandemonium, the complaining, and the conspiracy theories when people don't get the tickets to the shows they want.
Why even bother with VF when F2F is so accessible and more often than not fruitful.
I use TM for drops as shows approach. Patience has its rewards
Patience is the best strategy
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Does anyone know if entering the lottery for a single instead of a pair improves your odds?
I am assuming that they do the normal lottery draw with everyone one in the pool of possible winners. Would they possible go back and then “fill in the gaps” by drawing again from the pool of people who only posted for singles?
It only improves the odds of the next guy in line.. as still tickets available,.. but no it doesn't improve your odds
Does anyone know if entering the lottery for a single instead of a pair improves your odds?
I am assuming that they do the normal lottery draw with everyone one in the pool of possible winners. Would they possible go back and then “fill in the gaps” by drawing again from the pool of people who only posted for singles?
My guess:
Two singles with close numbers (565122 and 566199) may get paired together. You've also got some rows with an odd number of seats that they'll fill.
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Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think for the west coast 2022 tour, F2F opened super-late because some of the shows were not selling well. That really screwed people who were holding mediocre seats.
Ya that happened but I feel there was still a good amount of time to get tickets.
We are guaranteed 3 plus months this time which will be great and also aggravating lol.
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think for the west coast 2022 tour, F2F opened super-late because some of the shows were not selling well. That really screwed people who were holding mediocre seats.
Ya that happened but I feel there was still a good amount of time to get tickets.
We are guaranteed 3 plus months this time which will be great and also aggravating lol.
Yeah, plenty of time to GET tickets on that leg, but it screwed some sellers.
Oh, where is the 3-month guarantee on F2F from? I missed that, but great news.
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think for the west coast 2022 tour, F2F opened super-late because some of the shows were not selling well. That really screwed people who were holding mediocre seats.
Ya that happened but I feel there was still a good amount of time to get tickets.
We are guaranteed 3 plus months this time which will be great and also aggravating lol.
Yeah, plenty of time to GET tickets on that leg, but it screwed some sellers.
Oh, where is the 3-month guarantee on F2F from? I missed that, but great news.
They said sometime in May it would open up in the timeline news article. So worse case is 3 months if they stick to that.
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think for the west coast 2022 tour, F2F opened super-late because some of the shows were not selling well. That really screwed people who were holding mediocre seats.
Ya that happened but I feel there was still a good amount of time to get tickets.
We are guaranteed 3 plus months this time which will be great and also aggravating lol.
Yeah, plenty of time to GET tickets on that leg, but it screwed some sellers.
Oh, where is the 3-month guarantee on F2F from? I missed that, but great news.
They said sometime in May it would open up so worse case is 3 months if they stick to that.
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think for the west coast 2022 tour, F2F opened super-late because some of the shows were not selling well. That really screwed people who were holding mediocre seats.
Ya that happened but I feel there was still a good amount of time to get tickets.
We are guaranteed 3 plus months this time which will be great and also aggravating lol.
Yeah, plenty of time to GET tickets on that leg, but it screwed some sellers.
Oh, where is the 3-month guarantee on F2F from? I missed that, but great news.
They said sometime in May it would open up so worse case is 3 months if they stick to that.
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think for the west coast 2022 tour, F2F opened super-late because some of the shows were not selling well. That really screwed people who were holding mediocre seats.
Ya that happened but I feel there was still a good amount of time to get tickets.
We are guaranteed 3 plus months this time which will be great and also aggravating lol.
Yeah, plenty of time to GET tickets on that leg, but it screwed some sellers.
Oh, where is the 3-month guarantee on F2F from? I missed that, but great news.
They said sometime in May it would open up so worse case is 3 months if they stick to that.
Yes, you can participate in the verified fan sale after winning the 10c lottery. There is a four ticket limit for these shows and you can only win two through 10c, so you can buy two more through verified fan.
This plus it looks like VF sign up and lotto will be after we know our seats for 10C. That is great news for most of us trying to figure out what else we need to pick up in VF for tickets.
You think everyone will just magically get VF access?
In 2022 I sent a picture of all my PJ vinyl all.my PJ ticket stubs. Still didn't get VF access.
What's a fan to do?
The actual TM algorithm doesn't reward the true or long time fans. The algorithm recognizes that someone who buys alot of tickets (i.e. I've bought lots of Springsteen tickets over 95 shows) as a scalper. That's why the label doesn't refer to real fans... just whomever is lucky enough to get name drawn. And yes, resellers get tix thru VF all the time
It was a joke Meant to show how absurd the whole VF thing is. I'm a veteran of 200+ Springsteen shows over 48 years. 100+ U2 shows over 40+ years and 100+ PJ shows over 30+ years and have never gotten VF access. In the long run I haven't needed it.
But watch the pandemonium, the complaining, and the conspiracy theories when people don't get the tickets to the shows they want.
Why even bother with VF when F2F is so accessible and more often than not fruitful.
I guess you weren't trying for Baltimore??? That was exponentially worse than F5
Emphasis on more often than not.
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Does anyone know what it means by "the majority of the tickets will go to Ten Club members"? Is that like 90% of the arena? 51%?
It means that newer members are going to have bad seats, as it's followed up by this:
"In order to accommodate as many Ten Club members as we can, be aware Ten Club seated tickets will be spread farther back into the uppermost levels, and include some of the best seat locations in the house."
I’m going to guess that Ten Club probably gets access to 65% of the ticket (splitting the guess of 60-70% range) with Chicago probably getting above that based on ability to sell the behind the stage seating.
Assuming that 65% goes to Ten Club and that 10% goes to PJ Premium.
That leaves 25% of the venue for standard pricing for the public.
I'm guessing that 10% was allocated from the Ten Club pile..
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I read the results of the lottery will be emailed on mon and tues.. but everyone here and at Reddit is saying tomorrow. Does anybody have experience with this? Does everyone pretty much get the results the first day?
I read the results of the lottery will be emailed on mon and tues.. but everyone here and at Reddit is saying tomorrow. Does anybody have experience with this? Does everyone pretty much get the results the first day?
Not the first day for everyone usually, but usually there are more shows, too.
I read the results of the lottery will be emailed on mon and tues.. but everyone here and at Reddit is saying tomorrow. Does anybody have experience with this? Does everyone pretty much get the results the first day?
Not the first day for everyone usually, but usually there are more shows, too.
yeah,,, won't take long for the computer to spit out 9 shows... in the past its took a couple days....
also...No Odds this time?
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They will probably start with St Paul 1 and go from there show by show, half or so tomorrow and the rest on Tues.
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So when should we expect the emails to start rolling out tomorrow and then Tuesday?
And apologies if this has been answered already
A lot of times, your first clue might be your phone dinging you to alert you to a charge to your credit card. If you have it set up to do that as many do.
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Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
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2012 - Atlanta, GA, Missoula, MT
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2022 - Nashville, TN, St. Louis, MO, Oklahoma City, OK, Phoenix, AZ, Las Vegas, NV
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2014 - Soundgarden Tinley Park, IL (with Nine Inch Nails)
2017 - Soundgarden Dallas (cancelled) RIP Chris Cornell
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My guess:
Two singles with close numbers (565122 and 566199) may get paired together. You've also got some rows with an odd number of seats that they'll fill.
We are guaranteed 3 plus months this time which will be great and also aggravating lol.
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2022- Smashville
2023- Austin, TX x2
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