America's Gun Violence #2
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I agree I don’t recognize this country at all anymore and yes maybe we are inundated with news everywhere but still can’t wrap my head around itnicknyr15 said:
Nowhere in this country looks like much fun anymore to me. Politics aside honestly. Wtf is going on in Chicago? What is happening to humanity? Humans are devolving all over the country regardless of politics , race, gender. I don’t know if it’s more in our face than ever because of social media but damn.josevolution said:
Fuck that I’m boycotting all these red states with these fucked up laws period! I know it the grand scheme of things I’m a pee on but at least I know my $$$ won’t be going to any states that have these laws! I could give two shits if Pear Jam is playing Texas I’ll never visit that state.nicknyr15 said:
No more doorbells or driveways. Simple.Halifax2TheMax said:
Nothing can be done. Thoughts and prayers.Merkin Baller said:If it’s not the guns, or the gun culture, then what the fuck is it?jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
Merkin said it perfectly. It’s a blatant disregard for human life that I’d only associate with third world country criminals. And now it happens daily here. Minor arguments end in outright executions. With people circling back and shooting more to finish the job. It’s wild.josevolution said:
I agree I don’t recognize this country at all anymore and yes maybe we are inundated with news everywhere but still can’t wrap my head around itnicknyr15 said:
Nowhere in this country looks like much fun anymore to me. Politics aside honestly. Wtf is going on in Chicago? What is happening to humanity? Humans are devolving all over the country regardless of politics , race, gender. I don’t know if it’s more in our face than ever because of social media but damn.josevolution said:
Fuck that I’m boycotting all these red states with these fucked up laws period! I know it the grand scheme of things I’m a pee on but at least I know my $$$ won’t be going to any states that have these laws! I could give two shits if Pear Jam is playing Texas I’ll never visit that state.nicknyr15 said:
No more doorbells or driveways. Simple.Halifax2TheMax said:
Nothing can be done. Thoughts and prayers.Merkin Baller said:If it’s not the guns, or the gun culture, then what the fuck is it?0 -
Shit, ringing the wrong doorbell ends in outright executions.nicknyr15 said:
Merkin said it perfectly. It’s a blatant disregard for human life that I’d only associate with third world country criminals. And now it happens daily here. Minor arguments end in outright executions. With people circling back and shooting more to finish the job. It’s wild.josevolution said:
I agree I don’t recognize this country at all anymore and yes maybe we are inundated with news everywhere but still can’t wrap my head around itnicknyr15 said:
Nowhere in this country looks like much fun anymore to me. Politics aside honestly. Wtf is going on in Chicago? What is happening to humanity? Humans are devolving all over the country regardless of politics , race, gender. I don’t know if it’s more in our face than ever because of social media but damn.josevolution said:
Fuck that I’m boycotting all these red states with these fucked up laws period! I know it the grand scheme of things I’m a pee on but at least I know my $$$ won’t be going to any states that have these laws! I could give two shits if Pear Jam is playing Texas I’ll never visit that state.nicknyr15 said:
No more doorbells or driveways. Simple.Halifax2TheMax said:
Nothing can be done. Thoughts and prayers.Merkin Baller said:If it’s not the guns, or the gun culture, then what the fuck is it?
It's more than a disregard for life, our politicians and media are driving wedges of division in the citizenry of our country. The GOP has become a party of hate peddling in fear and animosity and the NRA is right there with them throwing gasoline (& ammunition) on an inferno.
The GOP and NRA are following a recipe.
What do people think they're making?0 -
Yea but he had a No soliciting sign ? Crazy stuff.Merkin Baller said:
Shit, ringing the wrong doorbell ends in outright executions.nicknyr15 said:
Merkin said it perfectly. It’s a blatant disregard for human life that I’d only associate with third world country criminals. And now it happens daily here. Minor arguments end in outright executions. With people circling back and shooting more to finish the job. It’s wild.josevolution said:
I agree I don’t recognize this country at all anymore and yes maybe we are inundated with news everywhere but still can’t wrap my head around itnicknyr15 said:
Nowhere in this country looks like much fun anymore to me. Politics aside honestly. Wtf is going on in Chicago? What is happening to humanity? Humans are devolving all over the country regardless of politics , race, gender. I don’t know if it’s more in our face than ever because of social media but damn.josevolution said:
Fuck that I’m boycotting all these red states with these fucked up laws period! I know it the grand scheme of things I’m a pee on but at least I know my $$$ won’t be going to any states that have these laws! I could give two shits if Pear Jam is playing Texas I’ll never visit that state.nicknyr15 said:
No more doorbells or driveways. Simple.Halifax2TheMax said:
Nothing can be done. Thoughts and prayers.Merkin Baller said:If it’s not the guns, or the gun culture, then what the fuck is it?
It's more than a disregard for life, our politicians and media are driving wedges of division in the citizenry of our country. The GOP has become a party of hate peddling in fear and animosity and the NRA is right there with them throwing gasoline (& ammunition) on an inferno.
The GOP and NRA are following a recipe.
What do people think they're making?0 -
That's not my understanding of how stand your ground laws work though.OnWis97 said:
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/kaylin-gillis-new-york-killed-wrong-address-kevin-monahan/Merkin Baller said:
If you’re referencing the woman in the wrong driveway, that was Washington State I believe.OnWis97 said:The Missouri guy is getting off. It’s a stand your ground state. The New York guy might actually pay for what he did.These stand your ground laws are f’ing crazy & only going to result in more senseless deaths.So both shooters were old white guys. Many such people have been told for decades that there’s danger at every turn. We’re being conditioned for this. I’m certainly going to do what I can to not turn around in driveways or knock on doors of people I don’t know.
My understanding is you still need to feel a threat, you can't just kill someone for trespassing. States without those laws may require you to retreat or hide if you feel threatened. It is intended to give the individual the right to defend himself when feeling threatened and not put the burden on him to retreat. I don't see how that can be a defense in someone ringing your doorbell or turning down your driveway unless they were waving a gun at you while doing so.Post edited by mace1229 on0 -
What relevance does the no soliciting sign have other than assigning some of the blame to the victim for being shot & give cover to the homeowner?nicknyr15 said:
Yea but he had a No soliciting sign ? Crazy stuff.Merkin Baller said:
Shit, ringing the wrong doorbell ends in outright executions.nicknyr15 said:
Merkin said it perfectly. It’s a blatant disregard for human life that I’d only associate with third world country criminals. And now it happens daily here. Minor arguments end in outright executions. With people circling back and shooting more to finish the job. It’s wild.josevolution said:
I agree I don’t recognize this country at all anymore and yes maybe we are inundated with news everywhere but still can’t wrap my head around itnicknyr15 said:
Nowhere in this country looks like much fun anymore to me. Politics aside honestly. Wtf is going on in Chicago? What is happening to humanity? Humans are devolving all over the country regardless of politics , race, gender. I don’t know if it’s more in our face than ever because of social media but damn.josevolution said:
Fuck that I’m boycotting all these red states with these fucked up laws period! I know it the grand scheme of things I’m a pee on but at least I know my $$$ won’t be going to any states that have these laws! I could give two shits if Pear Jam is playing Texas I’ll never visit that state.nicknyr15 said:
No more doorbells or driveways. Simple.Halifax2TheMax said:
Nothing can be done. Thoughts and prayers.Merkin Baller said:If it’s not the guns, or the gun culture, then what the fuck is it?
It's more than a disregard for life, our politicians and media are driving wedges of division in the citizenry of our country. The GOP has become a party of hate peddling in fear and animosity and the NRA is right there with them throwing gasoline (& ammunition) on an inferno.
The GOP and NRA are following a recipe.
What do people think they're making?
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Exactly. I was being extremely sarcastic. It’s a bullshit defenseMerkin Baller said:
What relevance does the no soliciting sign have other than assigning some of the blame to the victim for being shot & give cover to the homeowner?nicknyr15 said:
Yea but he had a No soliciting sign ? Crazy stuff.Merkin Baller said:
Shit, ringing the wrong doorbell ends in outright executions.nicknyr15 said:
Merkin said it perfectly. It’s a blatant disregard for human life that I’d only associate with third world country criminals. And now it happens daily here. Minor arguments end in outright executions. With people circling back and shooting more to finish the job. It’s wild.josevolution said:
I agree I don’t recognize this country at all anymore and yes maybe we are inundated with news everywhere but still can’t wrap my head around itnicknyr15 said:
Nowhere in this country looks like much fun anymore to me. Politics aside honestly. Wtf is going on in Chicago? What is happening to humanity? Humans are devolving all over the country regardless of politics , race, gender. I don’t know if it’s more in our face than ever because of social media but damn.josevolution said:
Fuck that I’m boycotting all these red states with these fucked up laws period! I know it the grand scheme of things I’m a pee on but at least I know my $$$ won’t be going to any states that have these laws! I could give two shits if Pear Jam is playing Texas I’ll never visit that state.nicknyr15 said:
No more doorbells or driveways. Simple.Halifax2TheMax said:
Nothing can be done. Thoughts and prayers.Merkin Baller said:If it’s not the guns, or the gun culture, then what the fuck is it?
It's more than a disregard for life, our politicians and media are driving wedges of division in the citizenry of our country. The GOP has become a party of hate peddling in fear and animosity and the NRA is right there with them throwing gasoline (& ammunition) on an inferno.
The GOP and NRA are following a recipe.
What do people think they're making?0 -
Gotcha. I definitely missed the sarcasm.nicknyr15 said:
Exactly. I was being extremely sarcastic. It’s a bullshit defenseMerkin Baller said:
What relevance does the no soliciting sign have other than assigning some of the blame to the victim for being shot & give cover to the homeowner?nicknyr15 said:
Yea but he had a No soliciting sign ? Crazy stuff.Merkin Baller said:
Shit, ringing the wrong doorbell ends in outright executions.nicknyr15 said:
Merkin said it perfectly. It’s a blatant disregard for human life that I’d only associate with third world country criminals. And now it happens daily here. Minor arguments end in outright executions. With people circling back and shooting more to finish the job. It’s wild.josevolution said:
I agree I don’t recognize this country at all anymore and yes maybe we are inundated with news everywhere but still can’t wrap my head around itnicknyr15 said:
Nowhere in this country looks like much fun anymore to me. Politics aside honestly. Wtf is going on in Chicago? What is happening to humanity? Humans are devolving all over the country regardless of politics , race, gender. I don’t know if it’s more in our face than ever because of social media but damn.josevolution said:
Fuck that I’m boycotting all these red states with these fucked up laws period! I know it the grand scheme of things I’m a pee on but at least I know my $$$ won’t be going to any states that have these laws! I could give two shits if Pear Jam is playing Texas I’ll never visit that state.nicknyr15 said:
No more doorbells or driveways. Simple.Halifax2TheMax said:
Nothing can be done. Thoughts and prayers.Merkin Baller said:If it’s not the guns, or the gun culture, then what the fuck is it?
It's more than a disregard for life, our politicians and media are driving wedges of division in the citizenry of our country. The GOP has become a party of hate peddling in fear and animosity and the NRA is right there with them throwing gasoline (& ammunition) on an inferno.
The GOP and NRA are following a recipe.
What do people think they're making?
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All good. 🤙🏼Merkin Baller said:
Gotcha. I definitely missed the sarcasm.nicknyr15 said:
Exactly. I was being extremely sarcastic. It’s a bullshit defenseMerkin Baller said:
What relevance does the no soliciting sign have other than assigning some of the blame to the victim for being shot & give cover to the homeowner?nicknyr15 said:
Yea but he had a No soliciting sign ? Crazy stuff.Merkin Baller said:
Shit, ringing the wrong doorbell ends in outright executions.nicknyr15 said:
Merkin said it perfectly. It’s a blatant disregard for human life that I’d only associate with third world country criminals. And now it happens daily here. Minor arguments end in outright executions. With people circling back and shooting more to finish the job. It’s wild.josevolution said:
I agree I don’t recognize this country at all anymore and yes maybe we are inundated with news everywhere but still can’t wrap my head around itnicknyr15 said:
Nowhere in this country looks like much fun anymore to me. Politics aside honestly. Wtf is going on in Chicago? What is happening to humanity? Humans are devolving all over the country regardless of politics , race, gender. I don’t know if it’s more in our face than ever because of social media but damn.josevolution said:
Fuck that I’m boycotting all these red states with these fucked up laws period! I know it the grand scheme of things I’m a pee on but at least I know my $$$ won’t be going to any states that have these laws! I could give two shits if Pear Jam is playing Texas I’ll never visit that state.nicknyr15 said:
No more doorbells or driveways. Simple.Halifax2TheMax said:
Nothing can be done. Thoughts and prayers.Merkin Baller said:If it’s not the guns, or the gun culture, then what the fuck is it?
It's more than a disregard for life, our politicians and media are driving wedges of division in the citizenry of our country. The GOP has become a party of hate peddling in fear and animosity and the NRA is right there with them throwing gasoline (& ammunition) on an inferno.
The GOP and NRA are following a recipe.
What do people think they're making?0 -
Should have known too... I know you're not unreasonable.nicknyr15 said:
All good. 🤙🏼Merkin Baller said:
Gotcha. I definitely missed the sarcasm.nicknyr15 said:
Exactly. I was being extremely sarcastic. It’s a bullshit defenseMerkin Baller said:
What relevance does the no soliciting sign have other than assigning some of the blame to the victim for being shot & give cover to the homeowner?nicknyr15 said:
Yea but he had a No soliciting sign ? Crazy stuff.Merkin Baller said:
Shit, ringing the wrong doorbell ends in outright executions.nicknyr15 said:
Merkin said it perfectly. It’s a blatant disregard for human life that I’d only associate with third world country criminals. And now it happens daily here. Minor arguments end in outright executions. With people circling back and shooting more to finish the job. It’s wild.josevolution said:
I agree I don’t recognize this country at all anymore and yes maybe we are inundated with news everywhere but still can’t wrap my head around itnicknyr15 said:
Nowhere in this country looks like much fun anymore to me. Politics aside honestly. Wtf is going on in Chicago? What is happening to humanity? Humans are devolving all over the country regardless of politics , race, gender. I don’t know if it’s more in our face than ever because of social media but damn.josevolution said:
Fuck that I’m boycotting all these red states with these fucked up laws period! I know it the grand scheme of things I’m a pee on but at least I know my $$$ won’t be going to any states that have these laws! I could give two shits if Pear Jam is playing Texas I’ll never visit that state.nicknyr15 said:
No more doorbells or driveways. Simple.Halifax2TheMax said:
Nothing can be done. Thoughts and prayers.Merkin Baller said:If it’s not the guns, or the gun culture, then what the fuck is it?
It's more than a disregard for life, our politicians and media are driving wedges of division in the citizenry of our country. The GOP has become a party of hate peddling in fear and animosity and the NRA is right there with them throwing gasoline (& ammunition) on an inferno.
The GOP and NRA are following a recipe.
What do people think they're making?0 -
🙏🏼 Our musical taste is way too similar for me to be unreasonable 😂😂😂Merkin Baller said:
Should have known too... I know you're not unreasonable.nicknyr15 said:
All good. 🤙🏼Merkin Baller said:
Gotcha. I definitely missed the sarcasm.nicknyr15 said:
Exactly. I was being extremely sarcastic. It’s a bullshit defenseMerkin Baller said:
What relevance does the no soliciting sign have other than assigning some of the blame to the victim for being shot & give cover to the homeowner?nicknyr15 said:
Yea but he had a No soliciting sign ? Crazy stuff.Merkin Baller said:
Shit, ringing the wrong doorbell ends in outright executions.nicknyr15 said:
Merkin said it perfectly. It’s a blatant disregard for human life that I’d only associate with third world country criminals. And now it happens daily here. Minor arguments end in outright executions. With people circling back and shooting more to finish the job. It’s wild.josevolution said:
I agree I don’t recognize this country at all anymore and yes maybe we are inundated with news everywhere but still can’t wrap my head around itnicknyr15 said:
Nowhere in this country looks like much fun anymore to me. Politics aside honestly. Wtf is going on in Chicago? What is happening to humanity? Humans are devolving all over the country regardless of politics , race, gender. I don’t know if it’s more in our face than ever because of social media but damn.josevolution said:
Fuck that I’m boycotting all these red states with these fucked up laws period! I know it the grand scheme of things I’m a pee on but at least I know my $$$ won’t be going to any states that have these laws! I could give two shits if Pear Jam is playing Texas I’ll never visit that state.nicknyr15 said:
No more doorbells or driveways. Simple.Halifax2TheMax said:
Nothing can be done. Thoughts and prayers.Merkin Baller said:If it’s not the guns, or the gun culture, then what the fuck is it?
It's more than a disregard for life, our politicians and media are driving wedges of division in the citizenry of our country. The GOP has become a party of hate peddling in fear and animosity and the NRA is right there with them throwing gasoline (& ammunition) on an inferno.
The GOP and NRA are following a recipe.
What do people think they're making?0 -
Absolutely sickened by what happened to Ralph Yarl. The guy shoots him in the head, then shoots him again while he's bleeding from the head on the ground. What the hell??
The kid runs away and finds a neighbor to call 911.
The violence here in KC has progressively gotten worse and worse since we moved here in 2017. I know that it's getting worse pretty much everywhere else as well, but this is where we live. There is no sense of urgency to try to fix the problem here. What in the actual fuck is it going to take for the US to do something about the gun issue? How many kids need to be murdered? Just heartbroken and sickened by it all.
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There's no number of dead children that will make them fix this problem. It doesn't exist.mfc2006 said:Absolutely sickened by what happened to Ralph Yarl. The guy shoots him in the head, then shoots him again while he's bleeding from the head on the ground. What the hell??
The kid runs away and finds a neighbor to call 911.
The violence here in KC has progressively gotten worse and worse since we moved here in 2017. I know that it's getting worse pretty much everywhere else as well, but this is where we live. There is no sense of urgency to try to fix the problem here. What in the actual fuck is it going to take for the US to do something about the gun issue? How many kids need to be murdered? Just heartbroken and sickened by it all.
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Well, I'm still going to be careful going into strangers' properties. The law doesn't help me when I'm dead.mace1229 said:
That's not my understanding of how stand your ground laws work though.OnWis97 said:
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/kaylin-gillis-new-york-killed-wrong-address-kevin-monahan/Merkin Baller said:
If you’re referencing the woman in the wrong driveway, that was Washington State I believe.OnWis97 said:The Missouri guy is getting off. It’s a stand your ground state. The New York guy might actually pay for what he did.These stand your ground laws are f’ing crazy & only going to result in more senseless deaths.So both shooters were old white guys. Many such people have been told for decades that there’s danger at every turn. We’re being conditioned for this. I’m certainly going to do what I can to not turn around in driveways or knock on doors of people I don’t know.
My understanding is you still need to feel a threat, you can't just kill someone for trespassing. States without those laws may require you to retreat or hide if you feel threatened. It is intended to give the individual the right to defend himself when feeling threatened and not put the burden on him to retreat. I don't see how that can be a defense in someone ringing your doorbell or turning down your driveway unless they were waving a gun at you while doing so.
However, it occurs You may have meant to reply to my earlier post saying that the MO guy will get off...
I think you're pretty correct about the law. That said, good luck proving he didn't feel threatened. It's a different state and different circumstance but George Zimmerman had no reason to feel threatened either. And this was actually on the shooter's property. Zimmerman went chasing after Trayvon Martin and manufactured "fear." My point is that when you bring in attorneys and juries, something this black-and-white can turn gray. I would not bet a lot of money on him being convicted.1995 Milwaukee 1998 Alpine, Alpine 2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston 2004 Boston, Boston 2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty) 2011 Alpine, Alpine 2013 Wrigley 2014 St. Paul 2016 Fenway, Fenway, Wrigley, Wrigley 2018 Missoula, Wrigley, Wrigley 2021 Asbury Park 2022 St Louis 2023 Austin, Austin 2024 Napa, Wrigley, Wrigley 2025 Nashville (II)0 -
Add mistaking someone else’s car for your own to the list:Merkin Baller said:
Avoiding driveways & doorbells is probably the best course of action.OnWis97 said:
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/kaylin-gillis-new-york-killed-wrong-address-kevin-monahan/Merkin Baller said:
If you’re referencing the woman in the wrong driveway, that was Washington State I believe.OnWis97 said:The Missouri guy is getting off. It’s a stand your ground state. The New York guy might actually pay for what he did.These stand your ground laws are f’ing crazy & only going to result in more senseless deaths.So both shooters were old white guys. Many such people have been told for decades that there’s danger at every turn. We’re being conditioned for this. I’m certainly going to do what I can to not turn around in driveways or knock on doors of people I don’t know.Also movie theaters
& schools
& super markets
& synagogues
& churches
& night clubs
& nail salons
& shopping malls
& music festivals
& birthday parties
& 4th of July parades
&…
https://abc13.com/woodlands-elite-cheerleaders-shot-shooting-at-heb-in-elgin-texas-payton-washington-pedro-tello-rodriguez-jr-arrested/13150502/
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Guy was just standing his ground against those high school cheer leaders proly.Merkin Baller said:
Add mistaking someone else’s car for your own to the list:Merkin Baller said:
Avoiding driveways & doorbells is probably the best course of action.OnWis97 said:
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/kaylin-gillis-new-york-killed-wrong-address-kevin-monahan/Merkin Baller said:
If you’re referencing the woman in the wrong driveway, that was Washington State I believe.OnWis97 said:The Missouri guy is getting off. It’s a stand your ground state. The New York guy might actually pay for what he did.These stand your ground laws are f’ing crazy & only going to result in more senseless deaths.So both shooters were old white guys. Many such people have been told for decades that there’s danger at every turn. We’re being conditioned for this. I’m certainly going to do what I can to not turn around in driveways or knock on doors of people I don’t know.Also movie theaters
& schools
& super markets
& synagogues
& churches
& night clubs
& nail salons
& shopping malls
& music festivals
& birthday parties
& 4th of July parades
&…
https://abc13.com/woodlands-elite-cheerleaders-shot-shooting-at-heb-in-elgin-texas-payton-washington-pedro-tello-rodriguez-jr-arrested/13150502/0 -
Yep teenagers in short shorts are so dangerous plus those Pom Pom’s can really do some damage you ever been hit with one? Unf’n realMerkin Baller said:
Guy was just standing his ground against those high school cheer leaders proly.Merkin Baller said:
Add mistaking someone else’s car for your own to the list:Merkin Baller said:
Avoiding driveways & doorbells is probably the best course of action.OnWis97 said:
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/kaylin-gillis-new-york-killed-wrong-address-kevin-monahan/Merkin Baller said:
If you’re referencing the woman in the wrong driveway, that was Washington State I believe.OnWis97 said:The Missouri guy is getting off. It’s a stand your ground state. The New York guy might actually pay for what he did.These stand your ground laws are f’ing crazy & only going to result in more senseless deaths.So both shooters were old white guys. Many such people have been told for decades that there’s danger at every turn. We’re being conditioned for this. I’m certainly going to do what I can to not turn around in driveways or knock on doors of people I don’t know.Also movie theaters
& schools
& super markets
& synagogues
& churches
& night clubs
& nail salons
& shopping malls
& music festivals
& birthday parties
& 4th of July parades
&…
https://abc13.com/woodlands-elite-cheerleaders-shot-shooting-at-heb-in-elgin-texas-payton-washington-pedro-tello-rodriguez-jr-arrested/13150502/jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
Another “responsible” gun owner doing what they do.
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- 22.2K A Moving Train
- 31.7K All Encompassing Trip
- 2.9K Technical Stuff and Help