MLB 2025 Off season

The Juggler said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Really like the fast pace so far but the relaxed chill pace that was unique to baseball is gone. The game will go from no true clock to double the clocks of any other team sport per play and a detailed set of regulations players will will need to track every play. The game needs to be shortened but this is a lot.

Rewind 25 years ago and things were sped up.  Players weren't stepping out every pitch, pitchers weren't "clearing the mechanism" after every pitch.

The clocks are her to stay for a while but it should make for a better game, hopefully.

Yeah when we were kids games were usually 2 and a half to 2 hours 45 minutes on average. That's ideal.

when I was a kid, they were closer to two.

Wobbie said:

The Juggler said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Really like the fast pace so far but the relaxed chill pace that was unique to baseball is gone. The game will go from no true clock to double the clocks of any other team sport per play and a detailed set of regulations players will will need to track every play. The game needs to be shortened but this is a lot.

Rewind 25 years ago and things were sped up.  Players weren't stepping out every pitch, pitchers weren't "clearing the mechanism" after every pitch.

The clocks are her to stay for a while but it should make for a better game, hopefully.

Yeah when we were kids games were usually 2 and a half to 2 hours 45 minutes on average. That's ideal.

when I was a kid, they were closer to two.

This is why Soccer is so popular.  You got 2 hours.  Set your clock.

tempo_n_groove said:

Wobbie said:

The Juggler said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Really like the fast pace so far but the relaxed chill pace that was unique to baseball is gone. The game will go from no true clock to double the clocks of any other team sport per play and a detailed set of regulations players will will need to track every play. The game needs to be shortened but this is a lot.

Rewind 25 years ago and things were sped up.  Players weren't stepping out every pitch, pitchers weren't "clearing the mechanism" after every pitch.

The clocks are her to stay for a while but it should make for a better game, hopefully.

Yeah when we were kids games were usually 2 and a half to 2 hours 45 minutes on average. That's ideal.

when I was a kid, they were closer to two.

This is why Soccer is so popular.  You got 2 hours.  Set your clock.

I hate not knowing how much time is left though. But it is nice that all the games are about the same length. 

Hi! said:

Clocks in baseball? Fuck that

It's weird....but I think it will be great to keep the game moving. Enlarging the bases is also weird....and making all infielders stay in the infield....to me that is the most bizarre rule

I'm curious how the clock will effect pitchers. Less rest between pitches, etc.

I'm wondering how many times the timekeeper will fuck up and not use 20 seconds instead of 15 when runners are on base

They seem like they were always quick to pitch, especially  Sherzer, so putting the clock on the batter  definitely is advantageous to their flow.

They’re gonna have to have a really solid game plan on how they wanna pitch to batters now. They know they are gonna be on the clock, so pitchers and catchers gonna have to really be on the same page with a lot of  the “what ifs”. Not that they don’t do that already but it seems even more so now. Obviously less time to decide how you wanna attack the batter. 

Hi! said:

They’re gonna have to have a really solid game plan on how they wanna pitch to batters now. They know they are gonna be on the clock, so pitchers and catchers gonna have to really be on the same page with a lot of  the “what ifs”. Not that they don’t do that already but it seems even more so now. Obviously less time to decide how you wanna attack the batter. 

Yeah, but baseball has been around since the 1800's. Never before the last 10-15 some years did games routinely take over 3 hours to play. If pitchers and catchers were able to get on the same page in under 15 or 20 seconds for decades and decades and decades, I am sure today's players can figure it out. Granted it's an adjustment with the clock but I think the feedback in the minors was mostly positive. And I think you will see a lot less time infractions during the season as guys get used to it...hopefully. 

Hi! said:

The Juggler said:

Hi! said:

They’re gonna have to have a really solid game plan on how they wanna pitch to batters now. They know they are gonna be on the clock, so pitchers and catchers gonna have to really be on the same page with a lot of  the “what ifs”. Not that they don’t do that already but it seems even more so now. Obviously less time to decide how you wanna attack the batter. 

Yeah, but baseball has been around since the 1800's. Never before the last 10-15 some years did games routinely take over 3 hours to play. If pitchers and catchers were able to get on the same page in under 15 or 20 seconds for decades and decades and decades, I am sure today's players can figure it out. Granted it's an adjustment with the clock but I think the feedback in the minors was mostly positive. And I think you will see a lot less time infractions during the season as guys get used to it...hopefully. 

Yeah, I’m sure I’ll be watching here and there. It’s unfortunate to have to do this to save, on average, 20 minutes a game. Seems they could cut into some of the in between inning and/or 7th inning stretch shenanigans to save 20 minutes. But that would take away commercial time, I’m sure.

It's as much about the pace of play as opposed to overall time. Go on youtube and pick out any random game from the 80's and use your own clock. I did that recently with a Phils/Pirates game from 1989. Legendary left hander Bruce Ruffin was starting his windup in maybe 5-6 seconds on average. I find that kind of game much more enjoyable than watching batters fiddling with their gloves and stepping out of the box between every pitch. 

I guess an ancillary benefit of having games be over around 9:30 as opposed to 10 is more kids get to see full games before having to go to bed.