America's Gun Violence #2

Gern Blansten said:

static111 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Poncier said:

mickeyrat said:

having a dead shooter makes it that much harder to understand motivations specific to that shooter. Cant really compile an accurate data set to begin to address the various reasons.

So I'm curious where you guys land on whats effectively the DP without due process?

But do you stand by and let a shooter continue his rampage in hopes of getting him alive to understand his motive, or do you stop him? 

SIR PLEASE STOP SHOOTING EVERYONE AND TELL US WHY YOU ARE DOING THIS!!!

Lol. I imagined Steve Martin as the Jerk

HE HATES THOSE CANS

Gern Blansten said:

static111 said:

Gern Blansten said:

static111 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Poncier said:

mickeyrat said:

having a dead shooter makes it that much harder to understand motivations specific to that shooter. Cant really compile an accurate data set to begin to address the various reasons.

So I'm curious where you guys land on whats effectively the DP without due process?

But do you stand by and let a shooter continue his rampage in hopes of getting him alive to understand his motive, or do you stop him? 

SIR PLEASE STOP SHOOTING EVERYONE AND TELL US WHY YOU ARE DOING THIS!!!

Lol. I imagined Steve Martin as the Jerk

HE HATES THOSE CANS

Literally my favorite part of that movie and probably the funniest scene of any movie ever, to me at least.

Have you watched The Lonely Guy and Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid?

Hilarious movies

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.wrtv.com/news/local-news/crime/what-we-know-about-the-armed-civilian-who-killed-greenwood-gunman?fbclid=IwAR23mHov8kp_FQNERFFrICI5-HyqH6CDPWkcrQtt_NiSJYk2rCbfx1Gfo0g

Greenwood, IN gunman was 20....kid that shot him was 22

crazy shit

There can't be enough credit given to Dicken. He could have ran but he didn't. It sounds like the gunman was prepared to take out a lot of people.

According to Greenwood Police Chief James Ison, Dicken was shopping at the mall with his girlfriend.

At 5:57 p.m., less than two minutes after the gunfire began, Dicken engaged with the gunman.

“I will say his actions were nothing short of heroic. He engaged the gunman from quite a distance with a handgun,” Ison said. "(He) was very tactically sound as he moved to close in on the suspect, he was also motioning for people to exit behind him. He has no police training and no military background.”

tbergs said:

nicknyr15 said:

3 Days in NYC
26 shot
3 dead 

Zero protests. 

Not sure what you're getting at. Is any of this new and does anything ever actually change? People are exhausted and deflated. 

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

tbergs said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.wrtv.com/news/local-news/crime/what-we-know-about-the-armed-civilian-who-killed-greenwood-gunman?fbclid=IwAR23mHov8kp_FQNERFFrICI5-HyqH6CDPWkcrQtt_NiSJYk2rCbfx1Gfo0g

Greenwood, IN gunman was 20....kid that shot him was 22

crazy shit

There can't be enough credit given to Dicken. He could have ran but he didn't. It sounds like the gunman was prepared to take out a lot of people.

According to Greenwood Police Chief James Ison, Dicken was shopping at the mall with his girlfriend.

At 5:57 p.m., less than two minutes after the gunfire began, Dicken engaged with the gunman.

“I will say his actions were nothing short of heroic. He engaged the gunman from quite a distance with a handgun,” Ison said. "(He) was very tactically sound as he moved to close in on the suspect, he was also motioning for people to exit behind him. He has no police training and no military background.”

Clearly he'll be the cover boy for the NRA and anything gun related for a long time. Nothing will change now.

The reason you carry is for the "what if" moments like this.  I am in no way celebrating it but that is why you train and carry.

I agree...but I hope we don't get too comfortable with this

What if the good guy had accidentally shot 1-2 people and killed them? What if the cops showed up right when the good guy was shooting at the bad guy and the cops took him down?

Do we really want the solution to be people taking the law into their own hands? Fuck no.

static111 said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

tbergs said:

Gern Blansten said:

https://www.wrtv.com/news/local-news/crime/what-we-know-about-the-armed-civilian-who-killed-greenwood-gunman?fbclid=IwAR23mHov8kp_FQNERFFrICI5-HyqH6CDPWkcrQtt_NiSJYk2rCbfx1Gfo0g

Greenwood, IN gunman was 20....kid that shot him was 22

crazy shit

There can't be enough credit given to Dicken. He could have ran but he didn't. It sounds like the gunman was prepared to take out a lot of people.

According to Greenwood Police Chief James Ison, Dicken was shopping at the mall with his girlfriend.

At 5:57 p.m., less than two minutes after the gunfire began, Dicken engaged with the gunman.

“I will say his actions were nothing short of heroic. He engaged the gunman from quite a distance with a handgun,” Ison said. "(He) was very tactically sound as he moved to close in on the suspect, he was also motioning for people to exit behind him. He has no police training and no military background.”

Clearly he'll be the cover boy for the NRA and anything gun related for a long time. Nothing will change now.

The reason you carry is for the "what if" moments like this.  I am in no way celebrating it but that is why you train and carry.

I agree...but I hope we don't get too comfortable with this

What if the good guy had accidentally shot 1-2 people and killed them? What if the cops showed up right when the good guy was shooting at the bad guy and the cops took him down?

Do we really want the solution to be people taking the law into their own hands? Fuck no.

If we live in a society where the only way to feel safe and secure is carrying in case an incident occurs, or choosing not to go out, I would say it is time to reinvent society.

TJ25487 said:

tbergs said:

nicknyr15 said:

3 Days in NYC
26 shot
3 dead 

Zero protests. 

Not sure what you're getting at. Is any of this new and does anything ever actually change? People are exhausted and deflated. 

I think what he meant is that the media does not want to cover the day to day shootings in the inner cities, only the mass shootings that they can quickly sensationalize for political benefit. Nothing new.