Cropduster-80 said:

mace1229 said:

Cropduster-80 said:

mace1229 said:

Cropduster-80 said:

mace1229 said:

Cropduster-80 said:

mace1229 said:

mickeyrat said:

mace1229 said:

This case leaves me with a lot of questions.
like, how do they determine the start of the pregnancy? I don’t know any method that I’d accurate within 3 days.
Im assuming one of the reasons they went with a 6 week deadline is most adults would know they are pregnant by then. But a 10 year old very likely wouldn’t. And even if she did would probably be too afraid to come forward. Especially since statistically this would be rape by a family member.

as of the roe decision ohio has a complete ban, at least for now.

so its doesnt matter when a woman who might know better or a 10 yr old who is gets pregnant.  none will be done in ohio.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2022/07/01/ohio-supreme-court-lets-abortion-ban-stand---heres-where-state-lawsuits-stand-now/?sh=6817030a6fd6

Second paragraph of the article linked:
Hours after the Supreme Court action, the Buckeye state had outlawed any abortion after six weeks. Now this doctor had a 10-year-old patient in the office who was six weeks and three days pregnant.

They probably tracked her cycle. Her last period was 6 weeks and 3 days ago 

Yeah but you don’t get pregnant the day of your last cycle, so that would be completely inaccurate. Seems like a really dumb way, can’t imagine that’s how they determine it.

It is though.  that’s why you are never 2 weeks pregnant 
It starts at 4 weeks 
For example, a fertilised egg may have implanted in your womb just 2 weeks ago, but if the first day of your last period was 4 weeks ago, this means you're officially four weeks pregnant

There is a time frame it takes sperm to fertilise an egg and a time frame for an egg to implant sometimes longer sometimes shorter.  I’m not sure how they can determine with those variables. Your last period is known and the baseline for counting 

I’ve had 2 kids and never knew that’s how they determined it. For us they just measured the embryo in an ultrasound and based on the size they determined the pregnant timeline. 

I just assumed it started at fertilization, not at the cycle? So when the egg is fertilized you’re considered 2 weeks pregnant? I never knew that.

Hopefully we can get a woman to chime in.

my experience with 3 kids was always being confused when they said, 4 weeks, 6 weeks, etc.  the math never worked out exactly.

 Had my kids not literally looked exactly like me, I might have had questions 😂

I do think later they can/do adjust based on measurements but that early on there isn’t anything to measure 

you are also getting into fertilisation vs implantation.  A doctor doesn’t officially consider a pregnancy to have occurred until implantation.  Hence the debate on the IUD and emergency contraceptives that prevent implantation.  A fertilised egg itself isn’t a pregnancy. It’s just fertilised 

Just did a Google search:

”How is the length of pregnancy measured?

It sounds odd, but doctors measure the beginning of a pregnancy as being the first day of your last period. Why? They’re tracking the length of pregnancy using a nearly 200-year-old calculation called Naegele’s Rule, named after Franz Karl Naegele, the German obstetrician who is credited with creating it in the 1800s.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/18/parenting/abortion-six-weeks-pregnant.html

That seems very strange to me. You don’t conceive until a week or 2 after that. 

Crazy right? With all the advanced technology we have today, that’s what we get

a six week Abortion ban sounds less reasonable now doesn’t it? Your average man says “six weeks is a long time”, but  it’s not 

Bentleyspop said:

josevolution said:

stuckinline said:

This country is doomed. 

“You know, rape and incest is an ugly, ugly, ugly act of violence and that woman is truly harmed and scarred. Those wounds will never go away,” she said. “We need to make sure she has all of the love and help and support. But to end the pregnancy of the child is not going to erase the wounds or those scars. That child still has the right to life.”

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2022/07/ohio-state-representative-says-she-would-consider-banning-birth-control-following-abortion-outlaw.html

It’s incredible how it seems like a large swath of population want to take this country back 50 years! Damn it’s 2022 

You're math is off.
They don't want to go back 50 years or even to the '50s
They want to go back to the 1750s.

Cropduster-80 said:

If you count 2 victims not 1 in the event a crime is committed against her, she isn’t wrong 


I think I’ll try the same thing, except 
Jesus is my co-pilot 

mickeyrat said:

Cropduster-80 said:

If you count 2 victims not 1 in the event a crime is committed against her, she isn’t wrong 


I think I’ll try the same thing, except 
Jesus is my co-pilot 

thonk of all the potential children in the avg sack.....

mrussel1 said:

mickeyrat said:

cincybearcat said:

cblock4life said:

https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/2022/07/13/columbus-man-charged-rape-10-year-old-led-abortion-in-indiana/10046625002/

Fuck any and all who had anything to do with putting these puke republicans & Supreme Court jackasses in office. 

Republicans said it was unproven…..forget trump, the entire Republican Party is full of demons.  

This is a tragic case.  

And a political juicy one.  Showing just how wrong the republicans have been recently and especially in Ohio after Roe and just how wrong Democrats have been about illegal immigration it seems....

and our fucking douchebag of an ag running to fucks news and declaring his doubts with some bullshit reasons.

He denied it happened then 3 days later celebrated the arrest. 

News 5 spoke with Yost later in the day. We pointed out that some have called for the attorney general to apologize and asked him if that was something he was prepared to do.

He said, “Apologize for what? Questioning a newspaper story?”

We said that some saw it as passing doubt on this girl’s story and her experiences.

“Remember, on Monday night we didn’t know that the girl even existed,” Yost said. “The doctor who inappropriately shot off her mouth to the press about a patient for political gain wouldn’t talk at all."