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Gunman kills Japan's ex-leader Shinzo Abe during a speech
By MARI YAMAGUCHI, CHISATO TANAKA and FOSTER KLUG
6 mins ago

NARA, Japan (AP) — Former Prime Minister Shinzo Abe was assassinated Friday on a street in western Japan by a gunman who opened fire on him from behind as he delivered a campaign speech — an attack that stunned the nation that has some of the strictest gun control laws anywhere.

The 67-year-old Abe, who was Japan’s longest-serving leader when he resigned in 2020, collapsed bleeding and was airlifted to a nearby hospital in Nara, although he was not breathing and his heart had stopped. He was later pronounced dead after receiving massive blood transfusions, officials said.

Nara Medical University emergency department chief Hidetada Fukushima said Abe suffered major damage to his heart, along with two neck wounds that damaged an artery. He never regained his vital signs, Fukushima said.

Prefectural police in Nara arrested the suspected gunman at the scene of the attack and identified him as Tetsuya Yamagami, 41, a former member of Japan's navy. Broadcaster NHK reported that he said he wanted to kill Abe because he had complaints about him unrelated to politics.

Dramatic video from NHK showed Abe standing and giving a speech outside a train station in Nara ahead of Sunday's parliamentary election. As he raised his fist to make a point, two gunshots rang out, and he collapsed holding his chest, his shirt smeared with blood as security guards run toward him.

Guards leapt onto the gunman, who was face down on the pavement. A double-barreled device that appeared to be a handmade gun was seen on the ground.

Prime Minister Fumio Kishida and his Cabinet ministers hastily returned to Tokyo from campaign events around the country after the shooting, which he called “dastardly and barbaric." He pledged that the election, which chooses members for Japan's less-powerful upper house of parliament, would go on as planned.

“I use the harshest words to condemn (the act),” Kishida said, struggling to control his emotions. He said the government planned to review the security situation, but added that Abe had the highest protection.

Even though he was out of office, Abe was still highly influential in the governing Liberal Democratic Party and headed its largest faction, Seiwakai.


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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,114
    Horrible tragedy in a country with strong gun laws and almost no gun violence. Perp used what looks to be a homemade weapon. Here come the right wing pro gun talking points. The best laws dont work. In the wake of a terrible crime.
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    Cropduster-80Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    edited July 2022
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Horrible tragedy in a country with strong gun laws and almost no gun violence. Perp used what looks to be a homemade weapon. Here come the right wing pro gun talking points. The best laws dont work. In the wake of a terrible crime.
    Terrible tragedy

    Kind of surprised that doesn’t happen here more, statistics say it should. Gun laws or not, a determined person getting into the general area can’t really be stopped, assuming they aren’t trying to get away after 

    most of the security at the vast majority of political events is a facade to make people feel safer 
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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,114
    edited July 2022
    Cropduster-80 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Horrible tragedy in a country with strong gun laws and almost no gun violence. Perp used what looks to be a homemade weapon. Here come the right wing pro gun talking points. The best laws dont work. In the wake of a terrible crime.
    Terrible tragedy

    Kind of surprised that doesn’t happen here more, statistics say it should. Gun laws or not, a determined person getting into the general area can’t really be stopped, assuming they aren’t trying to get away after 

    most of the security at the vast majority of political events is a facade to make people feel safer 


    My best guess in the states no one is getting within 100 yards or more of a former president with a weapon (try to even boo trump and security will tackle you in seconds). Japan’s low gun violence gave them a sense of security. But it may be surprising there are no attacks on members of congress here. Well…other than J6.


     
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,761
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Cropduster-80 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Horrible tragedy in a country with strong gun laws and almost no gun violence. Perp used what looks to be a homemade weapon. Here come the right wing pro gun talking points. The best laws dont work. In the wake of a terrible crime.
    Terrible tragedy

    Kind of surprised that doesn’t happen here more, statistics say it should. Gun laws or not, a determined person getting into the general area can’t really be stopped, assuming they aren’t trying to get away after 

    most of the security at the vast majority of political events is a facade to make people feel safer 


    My best guess in the states no one is getting within 100 yards or more of a former president with a weapon (try to even boo trump and security will tackle you in seconds). Japan’s low gun violence gave them a sense of security. But it may be surprising there are no attacks on members of congress here. Well…other than J6.


     

    that congrssional ball game saw Scalise shot and injured pretty significantly
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    Cropduster-80Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
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    mickeyrat said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Cropduster-80 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Horrible tragedy in a country with strong gun laws and almost no gun violence. Perp used what looks to be a homemade weapon. Here come the right wing pro gun talking points. The best laws dont work. In the wake of a terrible crime.
    Terrible tragedy

    Kind of surprised that doesn’t happen here more, statistics say it should. Gun laws or not, a determined person getting into the general area can’t really be stopped, assuming they aren’t trying to get away after 

    most of the security at the vast majority of political events is a facade to make people feel safer 


    My best guess in the states no one is getting within 100 yards or more of a former president with a weapon (try to even boo trump and security will tackle you in seconds). Japan’s low gun violence gave them a sense of security. But it may be surprising there are no attacks on members of congress here. Well…other than J6.


     

    that congrssional ball game saw Scalise shot and injured pretty significantly
    Yeah. 

    One time our congresswoman showed up to help protest some development happening in our neighbourhood. I hate to say the fact it would be so easy for some nut to do something crossed my mind. These people are often pretty exposed. Unless you are at the president level and probably a current president, it’s not exactly safe  

    the Scalise shooting and Giffords are the only two that come to the top of my mind 
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,961
    A gunman with a specific target is likely more dangerous than a gunman without a specific target.  They will wait for the perfect opportunity rather than spray rounds into a crowd/classroom.

    Japan got too comfortable. I'm sure security will change now since the smart move is to make changes when tragedy occurs.
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    Cropduster-80Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
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    Gern Blansten said:

    Japan got too comfortable. I'm sure security will change now since the smart move is to make changes when tragedy occurs.
    Sounds logical.

    I thought you can’t talk about guns when a tragedy occurs? That’s what we’ve been told forever. It’s the one time it’s off limits. It happens every day so it’s always impossible 

    Japan is probably more sensible 
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    Cropduster-80Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034

    Japan reported only one death due to firearms in 2021, according to the National Police Agency. A total of 10 firearm-related incidents were reported in the country in 2021 — up from seven in 2020. 

    Eight of the 10 reported incidents were gang-related, the agency's report states.

    In the past five years, the highest number of firearm-related deaths per year reported in Japan was four.

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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,600
    And if you saw the “firearm” the perp used, it appeared more like two pipe bombs in the shape of a gun.
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,713
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Horrible tragedy in a country with strong gun laws and almost no gun violence. Perp used what looks to be a homemade weapon. Here come the right wing pro gun talking points. The best laws dont work. In the wake of a terrible crime.
    My wife said the same thing this morning.  I hadn't thought of that, but I can see it coming.
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Cropduster-80 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Horrible tragedy in a country with strong gun laws and almost no gun violence. Perp used what looks to be a homemade weapon. Here come the right wing pro gun talking points. The best laws dont work. In the wake of a terrible crime.
    Terrible tragedy

    Kind of surprised that doesn’t happen here more, statistics say it should. Gun laws or not, a determined person getting into the general area can’t really be stopped, assuming they aren’t trying to get away after 

    most of the security at the vast majority of political events is a facade to make people feel safer 


    My best guess in the states no one is getting within 100 yards or more of a former president with a weapon (try to even boo trump and security will tackle you in seconds). Japan’s low gun violence gave them a sense of security. But it may be surprising there are no attacks on members of congress here. Well…other than J6.


     

    That's another thing my wife mentioned a few days ago.  Outside of 1/6, She is surprised it hasn't happened yet.  I hope these people are beefing up their body guard and security and being extra careful. 
    We are entering an age of extreme violence.
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    nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 7,759
    Cropduster-80 said:

    Japan reported only one death due to firearms in 2021, according to the National Police Agency. A total of 10 firearm-related incidents were reported in the country in 2021 — up from seven in 2020. 

    Eight of the 10 reported incidents were gang-related, the agency's report states.

    In the past five years, the highest number of firearm-related deaths per year reported in Japan was four.

    Those are incredible stats. Damn. We can Barely make it through 1 night in NYC with numbers like that. And gun violence is down here since last year! Go figure. 
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    Cropduster-80Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
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    nicknyr15 said:
    Cropduster-80 said:

    Japan reported only one death due to firearms in 2021, according to the National Police Agency. A total of 10 firearm-related incidents were reported in the country in 2021 — up from seven in 2020. 

    Eight of the 10 reported incidents were gang-related, the agency's report states.

    In the past five years, the highest number of firearm-related deaths per year reported in Japan was four.

    Those are incredible stats. Damn. We can Barely make it through 1 night in NYC with numbers like that. And gun violence is down here since last year! Go figure. 
    Their post war gun laws were written by/with significant assistance from….wait for it …..





    the Americans 
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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,114
    brianlux said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Horrible tragedy in a country with strong gun laws and almost no gun violence. Perp used what looks to be a homemade weapon. Here come the right wing pro gun talking points. The best laws dont work. In the wake of a terrible crime.
    My wife said the same thing this morning.  I hadn't thought of that, but I can see it coming.
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Cropduster-80 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Horrible tragedy in a country with strong gun laws and almost no gun violence. Perp used what looks to be a homemade weapon. Here come the right wing pro gun talking points. The best laws dont work. In the wake of a terrible crime.
    Terrible tragedy

    Kind of surprised that doesn’t happen here more, statistics say it should. Gun laws or not, a determined person getting into the general area can’t really be stopped, assuming they aren’t trying to get away after 

    most of the security at the vast majority of political events is a facade to make people feel safer 


    My best guess in the states no one is getting within 100 yards or more of a former president with a weapon (try to even boo trump and security will tackle you in seconds). Japan’s low gun violence gave them a sense of security. But it may be surprising there are no attacks on members of congress here. Well…other than J6.


     

    That's another thing my wife mentioned a few days ago.  Outside of 1/6, She is surprised it hasn't happened yet.  I hope these people are beefing up their body guard and security and being extra careful. 
    We are entering an age of extreme violence.

     
    I misspoke there, Gabby Giffords and Steve Scalise both survived assassination attempts. 

    But given the level of political discourse and outright hatred each side has for the other, it’s surprising it hasn’t been worse.
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