I Was Ejected by PJ Security from Hyde Park 1 After Being Kicked in the Head Twice by a Crowd Surfer

on2legs said:

KL159781 said:

on2legs said:

KL159781 said:

 With him on the ground I leaned down, pointed at him and screamed at him saying “This is the second time you’ve hit me! What the f*** are you doing?”

Was my pushing away both crowd surfers or yelling in the face of the guy who smacked me considered too aggressive? Hyde Park security told me I should have left it to them. Well, they had their chance to remove the guy who struck me before he did it the second time. 

I think you answered your own question here.  There may have been a good reason for you to react the way you did, but I’m guessing security just saw two people having an aggressive confrontation and decided to remove them. 

Thanks for your comments. You may be correct about that or it could have been the culmination of me being seen being involved in 3 incidents in 5 minutes. As I stated before, I would have had no problem being taken out of the crowd and been questioned versus an automatic expulsion. I see there being a grey area on a subject like this, which is why I wanted to start this discussion. I don’t believe I should have been ejected from the venue and am not sure if even the crowd surfer should have been. I know he wasn’t intentionally trying to injure me or anyone else. My point is that Pearl Jam security could and should have handled this differently. My wife told me that the first crowd surfer was not ejected and came right back up to the front in search of his cell phone.

thanks everyone for your replies, pro or con.

I think you might have an excellent case if there was time for security to fully vet all sides of the incident.  Unfortunately, I don’t think they have time to do that during a show.  

A similar thing happened to me and my buddy at a DMB concert where a drunk tackled my buddy to the ground out of nowhere.  All I did was try to pull the guy off my friend but security made us leave as well.  They were polite about it but they just said that’s the policy.  Luckily it was near the end of the show and we only missed one song.  

Go Animal said:

on2legs said:

KL159781 said:

on2legs said:

KL159781 said:

 With him on the ground I leaned down, pointed at him and screamed at him saying “This is the second time you’ve hit me! What the f*** are you doing?”

Was my pushing away both crowd surfers or yelling in the face of the guy who smacked me considered too aggressive? Hyde Park security told me I should have left it to them. Well, they had their chance to remove the guy who struck me before he did it the second time. 

I think you answered your own question here.  There may have been a good reason for you to react the way you did, but I’m guessing security just saw two people having an aggressive confrontation and decided to remove them. 

Thanks for your comments. You may be correct about that or it could have been the culmination of me being seen being involved in 3 incidents in 5 minutes. As I stated before, I would have had no problem being taken out of the crowd and been questioned versus an automatic expulsion. I see there being a grey area on a subject like this, which is why I wanted to start this discussion. I don’t believe I should have been ejected from the venue and am not sure if even the crowd surfer should have been. I know he wasn’t intentionally trying to injure me or anyone else. My point is that Pearl Jam security could and should have handled this differently. My wife told me that the first crowd surfer was not ejected and came right back up to the front in search of his cell phone.

thanks everyone for your replies, pro or con.

I think you might have an excellent case if there was time for security to fully vet all sides of the incident.  Unfortunately, I don’t think they have time to do that during a show.  

A similar thing happened to me and my buddy at a DMB concert where a drunk tackled my buddy to the ground out of nowhere.  All I did was try to pull the guy off my friend but security made us leave as well.  They were polite about it but they just said that’s the policy.  Luckily it was near the end of the show and we only missed one song.  

"Sorry, bro... Tripping Billies just gets me GOIN' "

Go Animal said:

on2legs said:

KL159781 said:

on2legs said:

KL159781 said:

 With him on the ground I leaned down, pointed at him and screamed at him saying “This is the second time you’ve hit me! What the f*** are you doing?”

Was my pushing away both crowd surfers or yelling in the face of the guy who smacked me considered too aggressive? Hyde Park security told me I should have left it to them. Well, they had their chance to remove the guy who struck me before he did it the second time. 

I think you answered your own question here.  There may have been a good reason for you to react the way you did, but I’m guessing security just saw two people having an aggressive confrontation and decided to remove them. 

Thanks for your comments. You may be correct about that or it could have been the culmination of me being seen being involved in 3 incidents in 5 minutes. As I stated before, I would have had no problem being taken out of the crowd and been questioned versus an automatic expulsion. I see there being a grey area on a subject like this, which is why I wanted to start this discussion. I don’t believe I should have been ejected from the venue and am not sure if even the crowd surfer should have been. I know he wasn’t intentionally trying to injure me or anyone else. My point is that Pearl Jam security could and should have handled this differently. My wife told me that the first crowd surfer was not ejected and came right back up to the front in search of his cell phone.

thanks everyone for your replies, pro or con.

I think you might have an excellent case if there was time for security to fully vet all sides of the incident.  Unfortunately, I don’t think they have time to do that during a show.  

A similar thing happened to me and my buddy at a DMB concert where a drunk tackled my buddy to the ground out of nowhere.  All I did was try to pull the guy off my friend but security made us leave as well.  They were polite about it but they just said that’s the policy.  Luckily it was near the end of the show and we only missed one song.  

"Sorry, bro... Tripping Billies just gets me GOIN'' "