I Was Ejected by PJ Security from Hyde Park 1 After Being Kicked in the Head Twice by a Crowd Surfer

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  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,948
    KL159781 said:
    on2legs said:
    KL159781 said:

     With him on the ground I leaned down, pointed at him and screamed at him saying “This is the second time you’ve hit me! What the f*** are you doing?”

    Was my pushing away both crowd surfers or yelling in the face of the guy who smacked me considered too aggressive? Hyde Park security told me I should have left it to them. Well, they had their chance to remove the guy who struck me before he did it the second time. 

    I think you answered your own question here.  There may have been a good reason for you to react the way you did, but I’m guessing security just saw two people having an aggressive confrontation and decided to remove them. 


    Thanks for your comments. You may be correct about that or it could have been the culmination of me being seen being involved in 3 incidents in 5 minutes. As I stated before, I would have had no problem being taken out of the crowd and been questioned versus an automatic expulsion. I see there being a grey area on a subject like this, which is why I wanted to start this discussion. I don’t believe I should have been ejected from the venue and am not sure if even the crowd surfer should have been. I know he wasn’t intentionally trying to injure me or anyone else. My point is that Pearl Jam security could and should have handled this differently. My wife told me that the first crowd surfer was not ejected and came right back up to the front in search of his cell phone.

    thanks everyone for your replies, pro or con.
    I think you might have an excellent case if there was time for security to fully vet all sides of the incident.  Unfortunately, I don’t think they have time to do that during a show.  

    A similar thing happened to me and my buddy at a DMB concert where a drunk tackled my buddy to the ground out of nowhere.  All I did was try to pull the guy off my friend but security made us leave as well.  They were polite about it but they just said that’s the policy.  Luckily it was near the end of the show and we only missed one song.  
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  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,351
    on2legs said:
    KL159781 said:
    on2legs said:
    KL159781 said:

     With him on the ground I leaned down, pointed at him and screamed at him saying “This is the second time you’ve hit me! What the f*** are you doing?”

    Was my pushing away both crowd surfers or yelling in the face of the guy who smacked me considered too aggressive? Hyde Park security told me I should have left it to them. Well, they had their chance to remove the guy who struck me before he did it the second time. 

    I think you answered your own question here.  There may have been a good reason for you to react the way you did, but I’m guessing security just saw two people having an aggressive confrontation and decided to remove them. 


    Thanks for your comments. You may be correct about that or it could have been the culmination of me being seen being involved in 3 incidents in 5 minutes. As I stated before, I would have had no problem being taken out of the crowd and been questioned versus an automatic expulsion. I see there being a grey area on a subject like this, which is why I wanted to start this discussion. I don’t believe I should have been ejected from the venue and am not sure if even the crowd surfer should have been. I know he wasn’t intentionally trying to injure me or anyone else. My point is that Pearl Jam security could and should have handled this differently. My wife told me that the first crowd surfer was not ejected and came right back up to the front in search of his cell phone.

    thanks everyone for your replies, pro or con.
    I think you might have an excellent case if there was time for security to fully vet all sides of the incident.  Unfortunately, I don’t think they have time to do that during a show.  

    A similar thing happened to me and my buddy at a DMB concert where a drunk tackled my buddy to the ground out of nowhere.  All I did was try to pull the guy off my friend but security made us leave as well.  They were polite about it but they just said that’s the policy.  Luckily it was near the end of the show and we only missed one song.  
    "Sorry, bro... Tripping Billies just gets me GOIN'' "
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    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,459
    on2legs said:
    KL159781 said:

     With him on the ground I leaned down, pointed at him and screamed at him saying “This is the second time you’ve hit me! What the f*** are you doing?”

    Was my pushing away both crowd surfers or yelling in the face of the guy who smacked me considered too aggressive? Hyde Park security told me I should have left it to them. Well, they had their chance to remove the guy who struck me before he did it the second time. 

    I think you answered your own question here.  There may have been a good reason for you to react the way you did, but I’m guessing security just saw two people having an aggressive confrontation and decided to remove them. 


    My exact thoughts. 
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  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,351
    Go Animal said:
    on2legs said:
    KL159781 said:
    on2legs said:
    KL159781 said:

     With him on the ground I leaned down, pointed at him and screamed at him saying “This is the second time you’ve hit me! What the f*** are you doing?”

    Was my pushing away both crowd surfers or yelling in the face of the guy who smacked me considered too aggressive? Hyde Park security told me I should have left it to them. Well, they had their chance to remove the guy who struck me before he did it the second time. 

    I think you answered your own question here.  There may have been a good reason for you to react the way you did, but I’m guessing security just saw two people having an aggressive confrontation and decided to remove them. 


    Thanks for your comments. You may be correct about that or it could have been the culmination of me being seen being involved in 3 incidents in 5 minutes. As I stated before, I would have had no problem being taken out of the crowd and been questioned versus an automatic expulsion. I see there being a grey area on a subject like this, which is why I wanted to start this discussion. I don’t believe I should have been ejected from the venue and am not sure if even the crowd surfer should have been. I know he wasn’t intentionally trying to injure me or anyone else. My point is that Pearl Jam security could and should have handled this differently. My wife told me that the first crowd surfer was not ejected and came right back up to the front in search of his cell phone.

    thanks everyone for your replies, pro or con.
    I think you might have an excellent case if there was time for security to fully vet all sides of the incident.  Unfortunately, I don’t think they have time to do that during a show.  

    A similar thing happened to me and my buddy at a DMB concert where a drunk tackled my buddy to the ground out of nowhere.  All I did was try to pull the guy off my friend but security made us leave as well.  They were polite about it but they just said that’s the policy.  Luckily it was near the end of the show and we only missed one song.  
    "Sorry, bro... Tripping Billies just gets me GOIN' "

    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles (Inglewood) I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16 & 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29 & 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03 & 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27 & 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    Go Animal said:
    on2legs said:
    KL159781 said:
    on2legs said:
    KL159781 said:

     With him on the ground I leaned down, pointed at him and screamed at him saying “This is the second time you’ve hit me! What the f*** are you doing?”

    Was my pushing away both crowd surfers or yelling in the face of the guy who smacked me considered too aggressive? Hyde Park security told me I should have left it to them. Well, they had their chance to remove the guy who struck me before he did it the second time. 

    I think you answered your own question here.  There may have been a good reason for you to react the way you did, but I’m guessing security just saw two people having an aggressive confrontation and decided to remove them. 


    Thanks for your comments. You may be correct about that or it could have been the culmination of me being seen being involved in 3 incidents in 5 minutes. As I stated before, I would have had no problem being taken out of the crowd and been questioned versus an automatic expulsion. I see there being a grey area on a subject like this, which is why I wanted to start this discussion. I don’t believe I should have been ejected from the venue and am not sure if even the crowd surfer should have been. I know he wasn’t intentionally trying to injure me or anyone else. My point is that Pearl Jam security could and should have handled this differently. My wife told me that the first crowd surfer was not ejected and came right back up to the front in search of his cell phone.

    thanks everyone for your replies, pro or con.
    I think you might have an excellent case if there was time for security to fully vet all sides of the incident.  Unfortunately, I don’t think they have time to do that during a show.  

    A similar thing happened to me and my buddy at a DMB concert where a drunk tackled my buddy to the ground out of nowhere.  All I did was try to pull the guy off my friend but security made us leave as well.  They were polite about it but they just said that’s the policy.  Luckily it was near the end of the show and we only missed one song.  
    "Sorry, bro... Tripping Billies just gets me GOIN'' "
    This is classic!! Lol
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • drakeheuer14
    drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,619
    edited July 2022
    There was actually crowd surfer at a PJ show in 2022? When is the last time that happened? 

    As a fellow tall guy, I feel your pain with crowd surfers. But when it happens I just roll with it and try my best to assist the person to the rail. 

    I have seen so many people just not support them and watch as they fall head to the ground. As annoyed as you might be, I wish people would just help out for the 10 seconds it takes from them to pass over you and move on so that person isn’t injured or something. 

    Imagine Eddie dives into the crowd again and no one helped? Would be pretty messed up imo. 
    Post edited by drakeheuer14 on
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,446
    edited July 2022
    Wasn’t that a gag in the 2016 Ghostbusters. 

    Atleast in the trailer
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,948
    Go Animal said:
    on2legs said:
    KL159781 said:
    on2legs said:
    KL159781 said:

     With him on the ground I leaned down, pointed at him and screamed at him saying “This is the second time you’ve hit me! What the f*** are you doing?”

    Was my pushing away both crowd surfers or yelling in the face of the guy who smacked me considered too aggressive? Hyde Park security told me I should have left it to them. Well, they had their chance to remove the guy who struck me before he did it the second time. 

    I think you answered your own question here.  There may have been a good reason for you to react the way you did, but I’m guessing security just saw two people having an aggressive confrontation and decided to remove them. 


    Thanks for your comments. You may be correct about that or it could have been the culmination of me being seen being involved in 3 incidents in 5 minutes. As I stated before, I would have had no problem being taken out of the crowd and been questioned versus an automatic expulsion. I see there being a grey area on a subject like this, which is why I wanted to start this discussion. I don’t believe I should have been ejected from the venue and am not sure if even the crowd surfer should have been. I know he wasn’t intentionally trying to injure me or anyone else. My point is that Pearl Jam security could and should have handled this differently. My wife told me that the first crowd surfer was not ejected and came right back up to the front in search of his cell phone.

    thanks everyone for your replies, pro or con.
    I think you might have an excellent case if there was time for security to fully vet all sides of the incident.  Unfortunately, I don’t think they have time to do that during a show.  

    A similar thing happened to me and my buddy at a DMB concert where a drunk tackled my buddy to the ground out of nowhere.  All I did was try to pull the guy off my friend but security made us leave as well.  They were polite about it but they just said that’s the policy.  Luckily it was near the end of the show and we only missed one song.  
    "Sorry, bro... Tripping Billies just gets me GOIN'' "
    🤣

    Matt… Tripping Billies was the song we missed!!! Lol


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