America's Gun Violence #2

hedonist said:

OnWis97 said:

hedonist said:

My husband and I are ready to sell our LA condo and move to a small town where people just are…and not trying to control others’ bodies OR minds. Everything not politicized, simplicity in living, people not worrying about what others are up to, not the never-ending narcissism that seems to be everywhere. And access to great medical care.

It’d be cheaper, less stressful. Less crime too. 

I'm not here to criticize your choice of location, but I do find some of this counterintuitive. Anecdotally, everyone I've known from small towns (including my wife) have told me that it's there that people are worried about what others are up to. And everyone knows all the faults of everyone else's families. In my large-suburb upbringing (which, don't get me wrong; has its faults), I don't think anyone had any clue who my family was (nor how many alcoholics it had).  I think I was under far less of a microscope than my small-town wife. Now, that was all well before our current political climate.  

I'm also curious about access to great medical care...that may be true for some smaller places, I suppose, but by-and-large that can be a problem in smaller places...particularly places very far from any city.

Again, I'm not here to suggest you should not move to a smaller place...just surprised by some of the rationale.

I was born and have lived here my entire life and while I love my city, I’ve come to detest many parts of it — including many of the people. In a small town, I don’t care who knows my business; just don’t infringe upon my way of life.

And yeah, good medical care is a must for me. My life literally depends on it!

You may want to look at Pittsburgh.  Medical facilities are unreal and although people think “city” it’s anything but.  If you blink crossing one of the main bridges you’ll miss the city….teeny tiny city and the reason many pro athletes stay or move back is because Pittsburghers really don’t give a crap about anyones business…just stay out of ours and everything will be fine.  The city really doesn’t have too many residents- it was built for people to leave the city at the end of the day, not live there.  Right now the north hills would be where I would recommend. 

cblock4life said:

hedonist said:

OnWis97 said:

hedonist said:

My husband and I are ready to sell our LA condo and move to a small town where people just are…and not trying to control others’ bodies OR minds. Everything not politicized, simplicity in living, people not worrying about what others are up to, not the never-ending narcissism that seems to be everywhere. And access to great medical care.

It’d be cheaper, less stressful. Less crime too. 

I'm not here to criticize your choice of location, but I do find some of this counterintuitive. Anecdotally, everyone I've known from small towns (including my wife) have told me that it's there that people are worried about what others are up to. And everyone knows all the faults of everyone else's families. In my large-suburb upbringing (which, don't get me wrong; has its faults), I don't think anyone had any clue who my family was (nor how many alcoholics it had).  I think I was under far less of a microscope than my small-town wife. Now, that was all well before our current political climate.  

I'm also curious about access to great medical care...that may be true for some smaller places, I suppose, but by-and-large that can be a problem in smaller places...particularly places very far from any city.

Again, I'm not here to suggest you should not move to a smaller place...just surprised by some of the rationale.

I was born and have lived here my entire life and while I love my city, I’ve come to detest many parts of it — including many of the people. In a small town, I don’t care who knows my business; just don’t infringe upon my way of life.

And yeah, good medical care is a must for me. My life literally depends on it!

You may want to look at Pittsburgh.  Medical facilities are unreal and although people think “city” it’s anything but.  If you blink crossing one of the main bridges you’ll miss the city….teeny tiny city and the reason many pro athletes stay or move back is because Pittsburghers really don’t give a crap about anyones business…just stay out of ours and everything will be fine.  The city really doesn’t have too many residents- it was built for people to leave the city at the end of the day, not live there.  Right now the north hills would be where I would recommend. 

tempo_n_groove said:

Bentleyspop said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Bentleyspop said:

hedonist said:

My husband and I are ready to sell our LA condo and move to a small town where people just are…and not trying to control others’ bodies OR minds. Everything not politicized, simplicity in living, people not worrying about what others are up to, not the never-ending narcissism that seems to be everywhere. And access to great medical care.

It’d be cheaper, less stressful. Less crime too. 

My S/O and I have been thinking the same thing for a lot of the same reasons but moving to a more progressive city i.e. Boulder, Madison, Austin, Asheville, etc. I've already lived in Boulder but due to real estate costs it's no longer in consideration. Austin is out because it's in a shithole state with a shithead governor. Madison too cold. Asheville is still an option but once again a shithole state with a shithead governor.
So we turned our attention to Southern Europe. Italy, Portugal, and Spain to be specific. We have done a ton of research and came up with many positives and very few negatives. We were supposed to go over this summer for in person research but have to postpone till next year.

If you have the money and can go anywhere, go to the Caribbean.

Nice thought but too hot.
Some of the factors we are taking into consideration is access to high quality, but not expensive (universal) health-care. Easy access to intl.airports for world travel. Lower overall cost of living. Less or little to no guns everywhere. Nice warm weather most of the year. Easy access to locally produced food products.

Asheville is no.1 on our American list due to the progressive nature of the community. I misspoke about the gov. I have a cousin who retired there from NYC 10 years ago and loves it except for the state politics.But still a republican state not to mention Asheville is in the district that elected madison cawthorn. 

Barbados has all of that but like you said, the heat...

If I get to move out of country again I'm going back there.

Bentleyspop said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Bentleyspop said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Bentleyspop said:

hedonist said:

My husband and I are ready to sell our LA condo and move to a small town where people just are…and not trying to control others’ bodies OR minds. Everything not politicized, simplicity in living, people not worrying about what others are up to, not the never-ending narcissism that seems to be everywhere. And access to great medical care.

It’d be cheaper, less stressful. Less crime too. 

My S/O and I have been thinking the same thing for a lot of the same reasons but moving to a more progressive city i.e. Boulder, Madison, Austin, Asheville, etc. I've already lived in Boulder but due to real estate costs it's no longer in consideration. Austin is out because it's in a shithole state with a shithead governor. Madison too cold. Asheville is still an option but once again a shithole state with a shithead governor.
So we turned our attention to Southern Europe. Italy, Portugal, and Spain to be specific. We have done a ton of research and came up with many positives and very few negatives. We were supposed to go over this summer for in person research but have to postpone till next year.

If you have the money and can go anywhere, go to the Caribbean.

Nice thought but too hot.
Some of the factors we are taking into consideration is access to high quality, but not expensive (universal) health-care. Easy access to intl.airports for world travel. Lower overall cost of living. Less or little to no guns everywhere. Nice warm weather most of the year. Easy access to locally produced food products.

Asheville is no.1 on our American list due to the progressive nature of the community. I misspoke about the gov. I have a cousin who retired there from NYC 10 years ago and loves it except for the state politics.But still a republican state not to mention Asheville is in the district that elected madison cawthorn. 

Barbados has all of that but like you said, the heat...

If I get to move out of country again I'm going back there.

Too many badly dressed Americans

dankind said:

Bentleyspop said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Bentleyspop said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Bentleyspop said:

hedonist said:

My husband and I are ready to sell our LA condo and move to a small town where people just are…and not trying to control others’ bodies OR minds. Everything not politicized, simplicity in living, people not worrying about what others are up to, not the never-ending narcissism that seems to be everywhere. And access to great medical care.

It’d be cheaper, less stressful. Less crime too. 

My S/O and I have been thinking the same thing for a lot of the same reasons but moving to a more progressive city i.e. Boulder, Madison, Austin, Asheville, etc. I've already lived in Boulder but due to real estate costs it's no longer in consideration. Austin is out because it's in a shithole state with a shithead governor. Madison too cold. Asheville is still an option but once again a shithole state with a shithead governor.
So we turned our attention to Southern Europe. Italy, Portugal, and Spain to be specific. We have done a ton of research and came up with many positives and very few negatives. We were supposed to go over this summer for in person research but have to postpone till next year.

If you have the money and can go anywhere, go to the Caribbean.

Nice thought but too hot.
Some of the factors we are taking into consideration is access to high quality, but not expensive (universal) health-care. Easy access to intl.airports for world travel. Lower overall cost of living. Less or little to no guns everywhere. Nice warm weather most of the year. Easy access to locally produced food products.

Asheville is no.1 on our American list due to the progressive nature of the community. I misspoke about the gov. I have a cousin who retired there from NYC 10 years ago and loves it except for the state politics.But still a republican state not to mention Asheville is in the district that elected madison cawthorn. 

Barbados has all of that but like you said, the heat...

If I get to move out of country again I'm going back there.

Too many badly dressed Americans

So Chris fits right in.

Halifax2TheMax said:

I just read that Brooklyn had a no questions asked buy back where they offered $400 in gift cards and an iPad mini for a firearm. Collected 2,000 of them with long guns sent to NJ to be shredded and hand guns sent to a steel foundry in PA to be melted down. 1/5th of one month’s gun sales in NY State.

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

I just read that Brooklyn had a no questions asked buy back where they offered $400 in gift cards and an iPad mini for a firearm. Collected 2,000 of them with long guns sent to NJ to be shredded and hand guns sent to a steel foundry in PA to be melted down. 1/5th of one month’s gun sales in NY State.

I wonder how many of those guns were worth $200 or less. 

What's a Desert Eagle go for? How about an AR15 with a sawed off stock? 9mm? S&W revolver? A hammydown rifle (is that a hand me down rifle)? All used of course. Maybe never fired? Maybe not?

What does "worth" have to do with it? In getting guns off the street?

mace1229 said:

I never said it was a bad idea or a bad program. Just wondering. If this was a common thing, I’d buy every gun under $250 I see and get $400 and an iPad.

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

I never said it was a bad idea or a bad program. Just wondering. If this was a common thing, I’d buy every gun under $250 I see and get $400 and an iPad.

Where do you normally get a gun for less than $250? If you’re a “responsible” gun buyer? Particularly in NYC/NY State? And it’s $400 in gift cards, not cold hard cash ‘Murican.

Not too hard. Most gun stores have a used section. Something with a lot of the finish worn off or a little bit of pitting devalues it a lot.
Heres a Remington RM380 new for $279, I’ve seen it on sale for under $200 during big sale weekends. I bought one when it was $149 a few years ago. Sportsman’s warehouse, one of the biggest sporting stores in the country.
https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/handguns/remington-rm380-pistol/p/p41813
Id take $400 in gift cards and an iPad for that.