America's Gun Violence #2
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Halifax2TheMax said:
You know what’s over the top? 10,000 firearms a month being sold in one state. One borough took in 2,000 firearms at one event. Think it impacts gun crime in that one borough?mickeyrat said:Halifax2TheMax said:What do you expect in a state that sells 10,000 firearms a month? Overnight drop in crime?first one burrough not the entire state. second being curious is now an expectation?go back to bed. get up on the othrr side.goddamn you are so fucking tedious with your over the top bullshit. its tiring.
Excuse the fuck out of me, did I quote you?
Your “moderation” of opinions is bullshit. Use the ignore feature, you might be less stressed.given I asked the question that your answer seemed to try and pick a fight from. you didnt need to quote.so whats the break down of sales in the 5 boroughs vs the rest of the state. It IS a pretty big state._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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mickeyrat said:Halifax2TheMax said:What do you expect in a state that sells 10,000 firearms a month? Overnight drop in crime?first one burrough not the entire state. second being curious is now an expectation?go back to bed. get up on the othrr side.goddamn you are so fucking tedious with your over the top bullshit. its tiring.
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huh. interesting.....new york stateMassachusetts
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Because none of those guns make their way into the 5 boroughs, right? And instead of 10,000 a month, its almost twice that. Pick a fight? Adding context but whatever the fuck.mickeyrat said:huh. interesting.....new york stateMassachusetts
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Halifax2TheMax said:
Because none of those guns make their way into the 5 boroughs, right? And instead of 10,000 a month, its almost twice that. Pick a fight? Adding context but whatever the fuck.mickeyrat said:huh. interesting.....new york stateMassachusetts
A Hero Ain't Nothing But A Sandwich.number of guns legally purchased per person is less in nys than in ma. which is less than in ohio. nyc has the smuggled guns to contend with as well.now back to the buy back. I WONDER if they did tracing and what the break down was by legal in state purchase vs out of state origin._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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Because someone wondered.
New York’s Gun Traffickers Choose States with Weak Gun Laws to Get their Guns
There were certain commonalities among the states that supply New York with its trafficked guns. First, all are “net exporters” of crime guns according to ATF national statistics.[32] Each also generally scores poorly on objective measures of the strength of gun safety laws.[33] In particular, these states lack gun laws fundamental to preventing illegal diversion. For instance, all but one of these states have no requirements for background checks for private sales or at gun shows (Pennsylvania, and only for handguns). And all but one do not require a permit prior to a handgun purchase (North Carolina). This is a stark contrast to the other states along I-95 south, which were responsible for just over 2% of New York’s trafficked guns combined. New Jersey, for instance, requires a permit for handguns and long guns, each requiring a background check. Even though New Jersey shares a border with and has several major arteries into New York, it contributed less than one percent of New York’s trafficked guns.
From New York’s vantage point, the correlation between state and local laws and the source of trafficked guns is undeniable. We believe the weakness of the gun laws in the Iron Pipeline states and Ohio, combined with direct access to New York via interstate highways and public transportation, has made them become the source-of-choice among gun traffickers running guns into New York.[34]
New York's Pipeline, which includes Ohio, supplies a steady stream of guns to New York State. Nearly 35% of all guns and over 43% of all handguns originated in these seven states. In every state's own right, they score poorly on gun safety laws, especially those necessary to prevent illegal diversion. With easy access to New York via I-95 and I-90, gun traffickers tend to obtain guns that begin in these states. As noted, Ohio shares characteristics with the traditional Iron Pipeline states in that it has weak guns safety laws and has easy access to New York via interstate highway. For this reason and since it contributes 3% of all guns and 4% of handguns, we include it in the New York Pipeline.
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mickeyrat said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Because none of those guns make their way into the 5 boroughs, right? And instead of 10,000 a month, its almost twice that. Pick a fight? Adding context but whatever the fuck.mickeyrat said:huh. interesting.....new york stateMassachusetts
A Hero Ain't Nothing But A Sandwich.number of guns legally purchased per person is less in nys than in ma. which is less than in ohio. nyc has the smuggled guns to contend with as well.now back to the buy back. I WONDER if they did tracing and what the break down was by legal in state purchase vs out of state origin.Halifax2TheMax said:Because someone wondered.New York’s Gun Traffickers Choose States with Weak Gun Laws to Get their Guns
There were certain commonalities among the states that supply New York with its trafficked guns. First, all are “net exporters” of crime guns according to ATF national statistics.[32] Each also generally scores poorly on objective measures of the strength of gun safety laws.[33] In particular, these states lack gun laws fundamental to preventing illegal diversion. For instance, all but one of these states have no requirements for background checks for private sales or at gun shows (Pennsylvania, and only for handguns). And all but one do not require a permit prior to a handgun purchase (North Carolina). This is a stark contrast to the other states along I-95 south, which were responsible for just over 2% of New York’s trafficked guns combined. New Jersey, for instance, requires a permit for handguns and long guns, each requiring a background check. Even though New Jersey shares a border with and has several major arteries into New York, it contributed less than one percent of New York’s trafficked guns.
From New York’s vantage point, the correlation between state and local laws and the source of trafficked guns is undeniable. We believe the weakness of the gun laws in the Iron Pipeline states and Ohio, combined with direct access to New York via interstate highways and public transportation, has made them become the source-of-choice among gun traffickers running guns into New York.[34]
New York's Pipeline, which includes Ohio, supplies a steady stream of guns to New York State. Nearly 35% of all guns and over 43% of all handguns originated in these seven states. In every state's own right, they score poorly on gun safety laws, especially those necessary to prevent illegal diversion. With easy access to New York via I-95 and I-90, gun traffickers tend to obtain guns that begin in these states. As noted, Ohio shares characteristics with the traditional Iron Pipeline states in that it has weak guns safety laws and has easy access to New York via interstate highway. For this reason and since it contributes 3% of all guns and 4% of handguns, we include it in the New York Pipeline.
ummm this addresses that buy back you mentioned?
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Don’t know if they specifically trace the guns in the buy back but it would appear that the state has looked at the issue of firearms coming from out of state.mickeyrat said:mickeyrat said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Because none of those guns make their way into the 5 boroughs, right? And instead of 10,000 a month, its almost twice that. Pick a fight? Adding context but whatever the fuck.mickeyrat said:huh. interesting.....new york stateMassachusetts
A Hero Ain't Nothing But A Sandwich.number of guns legally purchased per person is less in nys than in ma. which is less than in ohio. nyc has the smuggled guns to contend with as well.now back to the buy back. I WONDER if they did tracing and what the break down was by legal in state purchase vs out of state origin.Halifax2TheMax said:Because someone wondered.New York’s Gun Traffickers Choose States with Weak Gun Laws to Get their Guns
There were certain commonalities among the states that supply New York with its trafficked guns. First, all are “net exporters” of crime guns according to ATF national statistics.[32] Each also generally scores poorly on objective measures of the strength of gun safety laws.[33] In particular, these states lack gun laws fundamental to preventing illegal diversion. For instance, all but one of these states have no requirements for background checks for private sales or at gun shows (Pennsylvania, and only for handguns). And all but one do not require a permit prior to a handgun purchase (North Carolina). This is a stark contrast to the other states along I-95 south, which were responsible for just over 2% of New York’s trafficked guns combined. New Jersey, for instance, requires a permit for handguns and long guns, each requiring a background check. Even though New Jersey shares a border with and has several major arteries into New York, it contributed less than one percent of New York’s trafficked guns.
From New York’s vantage point, the correlation between state and local laws and the source of trafficked guns is undeniable. We believe the weakness of the gun laws in the Iron Pipeline states and Ohio, combined with direct access to New York via interstate highways and public transportation, has made them become the source-of-choice among gun traffickers running guns into New York.[34]
New York's Pipeline, which includes Ohio, supplies a steady stream of guns to New York State. Nearly 35% of all guns and over 43% of all handguns originated in these seven states. In every state's own right, they score poorly on gun safety laws, especially those necessary to prevent illegal diversion. With easy access to New York via I-95 and I-90, gun traffickers tend to obtain guns that begin in these states. As noted, Ohio shares characteristics with the traditional Iron Pipeline states in that it has weak guns safety laws and has easy access to New York via interstate highway. For this reason and since it contributes 3% of all guns and 4% of handguns, we include it in the New York Pipeline.
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NYS has been known for years, that loose gun law states are the culprit. Same goes for Canada. The infiltration is a result of lax gun laws in the bordering states in the US.0
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I'm not here to criticize your choice of location, but I do find some of this counterintuitive. Anecdotally, everyone I've known from small towns (including my wife) have told me that it's there that people are worried about what others are up to. And everyone knows all the faults of everyone else's families. In my large-suburb upbringing (which, don't get me wrong; has its faults), I don't think anyone had any clue who my family was (nor how many alcoholics it had). I think I was under far less of a microscope than my small-town wife. Now, that was all well before our current political climate.hedonist said:My husband and I are ready to sell our LA condo and move to a small town where people just are…and not trying to control others’ bodies OR minds. Everything not politicized, simplicity in living, people not worrying about what others are up to, not the never-ending narcissism that seems to be everywhere. And access to great medical care.
It’d be cheaper, less stressful. Less crime too.
I'm also curious about access to great medical care...that may be true for some smaller places, I suppose, but by-and-large that can be a problem in smaller places...particularly places very far from any city.
Again, I'm not here to suggest you should not move to a smaller place...just surprised by some of the rationale.1995 Milwaukee 1998 Alpine, Alpine 2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston 2004 Boston, Boston 2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty) 2011 Alpine, Alpine
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To follow on my above post...OK...also depends on how small...mace1229 said:
Knoxville, TN. Been away from family for a long time. My wife’s family is almost all in Clemson SC, so only a 3 hour drive nowhedonist said:mace, good on ya. To which state are you moving?
...This is hardly a tiny villiage.
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Move back east, Hedo. I know of a nice fixer upper hitting the market in a while. And it’s in beautiful small city in a neighboring state. Nice beaches around. Good calamari.I SAW PEARL JAM0
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I was born and have lived here my entire life and while I love my city, I’ve come to detest many parts of it — including many of the people. In a small town, I don’t care who knows my business; just don’t infringe upon my way of life.OnWis97 said:
I'm not here to criticize your choice of location, but I do find some of this counterintuitive. Anecdotally, everyone I've known from small towns (including my wife) have told me that it's there that people are worried about what others are up to. And everyone knows all the faults of everyone else's families. In my large-suburb upbringing (which, don't get me wrong; has its faults), I don't think anyone had any clue who my family was (nor how many alcoholics it had). I think I was under far less of a microscope than my small-town wife. Now, that was all well before our current political climate.hedonist said:My husband and I are ready to sell our LA condo and move to a small town where people just are…and not trying to control others’ bodies OR minds. Everything not politicized, simplicity in living, people not worrying about what others are up to, not the never-ending narcissism that seems to be everywhere. And access to great medical care.
It’d be cheaper, less stressful. Less crime too.
I'm also curious about access to great medical care...that may be true for some smaller places, I suppose, but by-and-large that can be a problem in smaller places...particularly places very far from any city.
Again, I'm not here to suggest you should not move to a smaller place...just surprised by some of the rationale.And yeah, good medical care is a must for me. My life literally depends on it!0 -
My S/O and I have been thinking the same thing for a lot of the same reasons but moving to a more progressive city i.e. Boulder, Madison, Austin, Asheville, etc. I've already lived in Boulder but due to real estate costs it's no longer in consideration. Austin is out because it's in a shithole state with a shithead governor. Madison too cold. Asheville is still an option but once again a shithole state with a shithead governor.hedonist said:My husband and I are ready to sell our LA condo and move to a small town where people just are…and not trying to control others’ bodies OR minds. Everything not politicized, simplicity in living, people not worrying about what others are up to, not the never-ending narcissism that seems to be everywhere. And access to great medical care.
It’d be cheaper, less stressful. Less crime too.
So we turned our attention to Southern Europe. Italy, Portugal, and Spain to be specific. We have done a ton of research and came up with many positives and very few negatives. We were supposed to go over this summer for in person research but have to postpone till next year.
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If you have the money and can go anywhere, go to the Caribbean.Bentleyspop said:
My S/O and I have been thinking the same thing for a lot of the same reasons but moving to a more progressive city i.e. Boulder, Madison, Austin, Asheville, etc. I've already lived in Boulder but due to real estate costs it's no longer in consideration. Austin is out because it's in a shithole state with a shithead governor. Madison too cold. Asheville is still an option but once again a shithole state with a shithead governor.hedonist said:My husband and I are ready to sell our LA condo and move to a small town where people just are…and not trying to control others’ bodies OR minds. Everything not politicized, simplicity in living, people not worrying about what others are up to, not the never-ending narcissism that seems to be everywhere. And access to great medical care.
It’d be cheaper, less stressful. Less crime too.
So we turned our attention to Southern Europe. Italy, Portugal, and Spain to be specific. We have done a ton of research and came up with many positives and very few negatives. We were supposed to go over this summer for in person research but have to postpone till next year.0 -
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My S/O and I have been thinking the same thing for a lot of the same reasons but moving to a more progressive city i.e. Boulder, Madison, Austin, Asheville, etc. I've already lived in Boulder but due to real estate costs it's no longer in consideration. Austin is out because it's in a shithole state with a shithead governor. Madison too cold. Asheville is still an option but once again a shithole state with a shithead governor.hedonist said:My husband and I are ready to sell our LA condo and move to a small town where people just are…and not trying to control others’ bodies OR minds. Everything not politicized, simplicity in living, people not worrying about what others are up to, not the never-ending narcissism that seems to be everywhere. And access to great medical care.
It’d be cheaper, less stressful. Less crime too.
So we turned our attention to Southern Europe. Italy, Portugal, and Spain to be specific. We have done a ton of research and came up with many positives and very few negatives. We were supposed to go over this summer for in person research but have to postpone till next year.
North Carolina is amazing…and Asheville might be the crown jewel. What do you not like about their governor?hippiemom = goodness0 -
(Since nobody asked)...cincybearcat said:Bentleyspop said:
My S/O and I have been thinking the same thing for a lot of the same reasons but moving to a more progressive city i.e. Boulder, Madison, Austin, Asheville, etc. I've already lived in Boulder but due to real estate costs it's no longer in consideration. Austin is out because it's in a shithole state with a shithead governor. Madison too cold. Asheville is still an option but once again a shithole state with a shithead governor.hedonist said:My husband and I are ready to sell our LA condo and move to a small town where people just are…and not trying to control others’ bodies OR minds. Everything not politicized, simplicity in living, people not worrying about what others are up to, not the never-ending narcissism that seems to be everywhere. And access to great medical care.
It’d be cheaper, less stressful. Less crime too.
So we turned our attention to Southern Europe. Italy, Portugal, and Spain to be specific. We have done a ton of research and came up with many positives and very few negatives. We were supposed to go over this summer for in person research but have to postpone till next year.
North Carolina is amazing…and Asheville might be the crown jewel. What do you not like about their governor?
I don't even know who the governor is. I think NC is probably a better place than some of the other states being talked about. It's an up-and-coming place with varying metros/cities/towns in terms of size and a variety of people coming in. I'm sure there are spots I'd rather not be in but there are definitely places this libtard could consider.
Asheville's supposed to be great...probably too small for me to want to live in...but we're talking about people looking for a smaller place and based on what I've read, this is probably a top-ten (depending on what size range we're using).1995 Milwaukee 1998 Alpine, Alpine 2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston 2004 Boston, Boston 2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty) 2011 Alpine, Alpine
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Asheville is already too expensive. Great place though. My cousin moved there and loves it. Think Austin w less traffic and better weather.OnWis97 said:
(Since nobody asked)...cincybearcat said:Bentleyspop said:
My S/O and I have been thinking the same thing for a lot of the same reasons but moving to a more progressive city i.e. Boulder, Madison, Austin, Asheville, etc. I've already lived in Boulder but due to real estate costs it's no longer in consideration. Austin is out because it's in a shithole state with a shithead governor. Madison too cold. Asheville is still an option but once again a shithole state with a shithead governor.hedonist said:My husband and I are ready to sell our LA condo and move to a small town where people just are…and not trying to control others’ bodies OR minds. Everything not politicized, simplicity in living, people not worrying about what others are up to, not the never-ending narcissism that seems to be everywhere. And access to great medical care.
It’d be cheaper, less stressful. Less crime too.
So we turned our attention to Southern Europe. Italy, Portugal, and Spain to be specific. We have done a ton of research and came up with many positives and very few negatives. We were supposed to go over this summer for in person research but have to postpone till next year.
North Carolina is amazing…and Asheville might be the crown jewel. What do you not like about their governor?
I don't even know who the governor is. I think NC is probably a better place than some of the other states being talked about. It's an up-and-coming place with varying metros/cities/towns in terms of size and a variety of people coming in. I'm sure there are spots I'd rather not be in but there are definitely places this libtard could consider.
Asheville's supposed to be great...probably too small for me to want to live in...but we're talking about people looking for a smaller place and based on what I've read, this is probably a top-ten (depending on what size range we're using).0 -
Nice thought but too hot.tempo_n_groove said:
If you have the money and can go anywhere, go to the Caribbean.Bentleyspop said:
My S/O and I have been thinking the same thing for a lot of the same reasons but moving to a more progressive city i.e. Boulder, Madison, Austin, Asheville, etc. I've already lived in Boulder but due to real estate costs it's no longer in consideration. Austin is out because it's in a shithole state with a shithead governor. Madison too cold. Asheville is still an option but once again a shithole state with a shithead governor.hedonist said:My husband and I are ready to sell our LA condo and move to a small town where people just are…and not trying to control others’ bodies OR minds. Everything not politicized, simplicity in living, people not worrying about what others are up to, not the never-ending narcissism that seems to be everywhere. And access to great medical care.
It’d be cheaper, less stressful. Less crime too.
So we turned our attention to Southern Europe. Italy, Portugal, and Spain to be specific. We have done a ton of research and came up with many positives and very few negatives. We were supposed to go over this summer for in person research but have to postpone till next year.
Some of the factors we are taking into consideration is access to high quality, but not expensive (universal) health-care. Easy access to intl.airports for world travel. Lower overall cost of living. Less or little to no guns everywhere. Nice warm weather most of the year. Easy access to locally produced food products.
Asheville is no.1 on our American list due to the progressive nature of the community. I misspoke about the gov. I have a cousin who retired there from NYC 10 years ago and loves it except for the state politics.But still a republican state not to mention Asheville is in the district that elected madison cawthorn.0
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