America's Gun Violence #2

Lerxst1992 · June 2022

gimmesometruth27 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

tbergs said:

Merkin Baller said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Can’t afford your hobby? Might be time to take up a new one. Like fishing. Worms are free.

How will patriots defend themselves from varmints like prairie dogs & protect their chicken coops from raccoons without AR15s?

How come traps don't come up in varmint discussions when they get mentioned by these AR-15 loving ding dongs, but we have morons going on about traps and trip wires at schools? These people have to know they sound like idiots.

need a varmint trap in your chicken coop.

they can't just shoot the varmint, they have to fucking obliterate it, hence the need for the ar-15.

Thule said that because he is really long time buddies with Tester and back in the old days they loved singing Corduroy together while roasting marshmallows and varmints around the campfire.

Gern Blansten · June 2022

mace1229 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

NY laws being introduced.

Red Flag laws expanding.
Microstamping bullets.
No one under 21 can purchase semiauto rifles.
Social Media has to police their platforms more. (Not sure how they do this?)An executive order will also go through that has LE monitor social media for warning signs.
Body armor illegal for non LE.
Firearm definitions are expanded to try and put other firing devices on the lists.
High capacity magazines that were bought legally are now illegal.
Stating Mass harm is now against the law.
Expanding shared information between agencies.
Gun salespersons need to be up to date on how to write transfers and State Police need to inspect gun dealers every 3 years.

I’m not for the micro stamping of bullets.
I don’t see it having much of a benefit and it’s just going to raise the cost by quite a bit. Which many have already treated they are okay with taxing guns and ammo so much to where it’s a rich man’s luxury.
But do people really want individuals who carry guns for a living to not be able to afford to target practice? Or have people with conceal carry permits walking around who haven’t been to the range in years because of the cost?

I have no concern about people with conceal carry permits not going to a shooting range.

So you’re okay with people in private security or work with large amounts of cash and valuables who carry for protraction, having zero training and little access to a firing range? Seems dangerous to me.

As dangerous as allowing 18 years olds to buy AR-15s?

gimmesometruth27 · June 2022

i did not know anybody actually said the word varmint besides yosemite sam.

mace1229 · June 2022

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

NY laws being introduced.

Red Flag laws expanding.
Microstamping bullets.
No one under 21 can purchase semiauto rifles.
Social Media has to police their platforms more. (Not sure how they do this?)An executive order will also go through that has LE monitor social media for warning signs.
Body armor illegal for non LE.
Firearm definitions are expanded to try and put other firing devices on the lists.
High capacity magazines that were bought legally are now illegal.
Stating Mass harm is now against the law.
Expanding shared information between agencies.
Gun salespersons need to be up to date on how to write transfers and State Police need to inspect gun dealers every 3 years.

I’m not for the micro stamping of bullets.
I don’t see it having much of a benefit and it’s just going to raise the cost by quite a bit. Which many have already treated they are okay with taxing guns and ammo so much to where it’s a rich man’s luxury.
But do people really want individuals who carry guns for a living to not be able to afford to target practice? Or have people with conceal carry permits walking around who haven’t been to the range in years because of the cost?

I have no concern about people with conceal carry permits not going to a shooting range.

So you’re okay with people in private security or work with large amounts of cash and valuables who carry for protraction, having zero training and little access to a firing range? Seems dangerous to me.

As dangerous as allowing 18 years olds to buy AR-15s?

Probably not. But I don’t see why it has to be one or the other.

HughFreakingDillon · June 2022

gimmesometruth27 said:

i did not know anybody actually said the word varmint besides yosemite sam.

haha I honestly didn't know it was a real word. I thought it was slang.

Gern Blansten · June 2022

mace1229 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

NY laws being introduced.

Red Flag laws expanding.
Microstamping bullets.
No one under 21 can purchase semiauto rifles.
Social Media has to police their platforms more. (Not sure how they do this?)An executive order will also go through that has LE monitor social media for warning signs.
Body armor illegal for non LE.
Firearm definitions are expanded to try and put other firing devices on the lists.
High capacity magazines that were bought legally are now illegal.
Stating Mass harm is now against the law.
Expanding shared information between agencies.
Gun salespersons need to be up to date on how to write transfers and State Police need to inspect gun dealers every 3 years.

I’m not for the micro stamping of bullets.
I don’t see it having much of a benefit and it’s just going to raise the cost by quite a bit. Which many have already treated they are okay with taxing guns and ammo so much to where it’s a rich man’s luxury.
But do people really want individuals who carry guns for a living to not be able to afford to target practice? Or have people with conceal carry permits walking around who haven’t been to the range in years because of the cost?

I have no concern about people with conceal carry permits not going to a shooting range.

So you’re okay with people in private security or work with large amounts of cash and valuables who carry for protraction, having zero training and little access to a firing range? Seems dangerous to me.

As dangerous as allowing 18 years olds to buy AR-15s?

Probably not. But I don’t see why it has to be one or the other.

it doesn't....your argument is a hypothetical

mace1229 · June 2022

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

NY laws being introduced.

Red Flag laws expanding.
Microstamping bullets.
No one under 21 can purchase semiauto rifles.
Social Media has to police their platforms more. (Not sure how they do this?)An executive order will also go through that has LE monitor social media for warning signs.
Body armor illegal for non LE.
Firearm definitions are expanded to try and put other firing devices on the lists.
High capacity magazines that were bought legally are now illegal.
Stating Mass harm is now against the law.
Expanding shared information between agencies.
Gun salespersons need to be up to date on how to write transfers and State Police need to inspect gun dealers every 3 years.

I’m not for the micro stamping of bullets.
I don’t see it having much of a benefit and it’s just going to raise the cost by quite a bit. Which many have already treated they are okay with taxing guns and ammo so much to where it’s a rich man’s luxury.
But do people really want individuals who carry guns for a living to not be able to afford to target practice? Or have people with conceal carry permits walking around who haven’t been to the range in years because of the cost?

I have no concern about people with conceal carry permits not going to a shooting range.

So you’re okay with people in private security or work with large amounts of cash and valuables who carry for protraction, having zero training and little access to a firing range? Seems dangerous to me.

As dangerous as allowing 18 years olds to buy AR-15s?

Probably not. But I don’t see why it has to be one or the other.

it doesn't....your argument is a hypothetical

You said you’re okay with people who have cc permits to having limited access to training and a range. I asked how is that safe. You responded with it’s safer than giving an 18 year old a rifle. The 2 are not related.

A lot of people legitimately carry guns, I don’t see why you’d want to limit their training with a firearm.

Halifax2TheMax · June 2022

gimmesometruth27 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

tbergs said:

Merkin Baller said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Can’t afford your hobby? Might be time to take up a new one. Like fishing. Worms are free.

How will patriots defend themselves from varmints like prairie dogs & protect their chicken coops from raccoons without AR15s?

How come traps don't come up in varmint discussions when they get mentioned by these AR-15 loving ding dongs, but we have morons going on about traps and trip wires at schools? These people have to know they sound like idiots.

need a varmint trap in your chicken coop.

they can't just shoot the varmint, they have to fucking obliterate it, hence the need for the ar-15.

Just like those kids in Uvalde who were decapitated. A varmint ain’t dead unless it’s obliterated beyond recognition.

Halifax2TheMax · June 2022

mace1229 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

NY laws being introduced.

Red Flag laws expanding.
Microstamping bullets.
No one under 21 can purchase semiauto rifles.
Social Media has to police their platforms more. (Not sure how they do this?)An executive order will also go through that has LE monitor social media for warning signs.
Body armor illegal for non LE.
Firearm definitions are expanded to try and put other firing devices on the lists.
High capacity magazines that were bought legally are now illegal.
Stating Mass harm is now against the law.
Expanding shared information between agencies.
Gun salespersons need to be up to date on how to write transfers and State Police need to inspect gun dealers every 3 years.

I’m not for the micro stamping of bullets.
I don’t see it having much of a benefit and it’s just going to raise the cost by quite a bit. Which many have already treated they are okay with taxing guns and ammo so much to where it’s a rich man’s luxury.
But do people really want individuals who carry guns for a living to not be able to afford to target practice? Or have people with conceal carry permits walking around who haven’t been to the range in years because of the cost?

I have no concern about people with conceal carry permits not going to a shooting range.

So you’re okay with people in private security or work with large amounts of cash and valuables who carry for protraction, having zero training and little access to a firing range? Seems dangerous to me.

Let the employer pay for the gun range and ammo. They can write it off as a business expense. And why shouldn’t a tax on guns and ammo offset some of the cost of the carnage? Taxpayers and those of us with healthcare are subsidizing the carnage of gun ownership and possession. Time for “responsible” gun owners to pay for their blind eye and turned back.

mace1229 · June 2022

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

NY laws being introduced.

Red Flag laws expanding.
Microstamping bullets.
No one under 21 can purchase semiauto rifles.
Social Media has to police their platforms more. (Not sure how they do this?)An executive order will also go through that has LE monitor social media for warning signs.
Body armor illegal for non LE.
Firearm definitions are expanded to try and put other firing devices on the lists.
High capacity magazines that were bought legally are now illegal.
Stating Mass harm is now against the law.
Expanding shared information between agencies.
Gun salespersons need to be up to date on how to write transfers and State Police need to inspect gun dealers every 3 years.

I’m not for the micro stamping of bullets.
I don’t see it having much of a benefit and it’s just going to raise the cost by quite a bit. Which many have already treated they are okay with taxing guns and ammo so much to where it’s a rich man’s luxury.
But do people really want individuals who carry guns for a living to not be able to afford to target practice? Or have people with conceal carry permits walking around who haven’t been to the range in years because of the cost?

I have no concern about people with conceal carry permits not going to a shooting range.

So you’re okay with people in private security or work with large amounts of cash and valuables who carry for protraction, having zero training and little access to a firing range? Seems dangerous to me.

Let the employer pay for the gun range and ammo. They can write it off as a business expense. And why shouldn’t a tax on guns and ammo offset some of the cost of the carnage? Taxpayers and those of us with healthcare are subsidizing the carnage of gun ownership and possession. Time for “responsible” gun owners to pay for their blind eye and turned back.

A lot don’t have employers. Ever been to a watch show, antique show or coin show? Dealers are walking to their cars and stores with $500,000+ inventory and thousands in cash. You think most aren’t armed? I sure hope they’ve been to a range if they ever need to use it.

Poncier · June 2022

gimmesometruth27 said:

i did not know anybody actually said the word varmint besides yosemite sam.

And Carl Spackler

Gern Blansten · June 2022

mace1229 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

NY laws being introduced.

Red Flag laws expanding.
Microstamping bullets.
No one under 21 can purchase semiauto rifles.
Social Media has to police their platforms more. (Not sure how they do this?)An executive order will also go through that has LE monitor social media for warning signs.
Body armor illegal for non LE.
Firearm definitions are expanded to try and put other firing devices on the lists.
High capacity magazines that were bought legally are now illegal.
Stating Mass harm is now against the law.
Expanding shared information between agencies.
Gun salespersons need to be up to date on how to write transfers and State Police need to inspect gun dealers every 3 years.

I’m not for the micro stamping of bullets.
I don’t see it having much of a benefit and it’s just going to raise the cost by quite a bit. Which many have already treated they are okay with taxing guns and ammo so much to where it’s a rich man’s luxury.
But do people really want individuals who carry guns for a living to not be able to afford to target practice? Or have people with conceal carry permits walking around who haven’t been to the range in years because of the cost?

I have no concern about people with conceal carry permits not going to a shooting range.

So you’re okay with people in private security or work with large amounts of cash and valuables who carry for protraction, having zero training and little access to a firing range? Seems dangerous to me.

As dangerous as allowing 18 years olds to buy AR-15s?

Probably not. But I don’t see why it has to be one or the other.

it doesn't....your argument is a hypothetical

You said you’re okay with people who have cc permits to having limited access to training and a range. I asked how is that safe. You responded with it’s safer than giving an 18 year old a rifle. The 2 are not related.
A lot of people legitimately carry guns, I don’t see why you’d want to limit their training with a firearm.

You are saying they have limited access....they don't

Halifax2TheMax · June 2022

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mace1229 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

NY laws being introduced.

Red Flag laws expanding.
Microstamping bullets.
No one under 21 can purchase semiauto rifles.
Social Media has to police their platforms more. (Not sure how they do this?)An executive order will also go through that has LE monitor social media for warning signs.
Body armor illegal for non LE.
Firearm definitions are expanded to try and put other firing devices on the lists.
High capacity magazines that were bought legally are now illegal.
Stating Mass harm is now against the law.
Expanding shared information between agencies.
Gun salespersons need to be up to date on how to write transfers and State Police need to inspect gun dealers every 3 years.

I’m not for the micro stamping of bullets.
I don’t see it having much of a benefit and it’s just going to raise the cost by quite a bit. Which many have already treated they are okay with taxing guns and ammo so much to where it’s a rich man’s luxury.
But do people really want individuals who carry guns for a living to not be able to afford to target practice? Or have people with conceal carry permits walking around who haven’t been to the range in years because of the cost?

I have no concern about people with conceal carry permits not going to a shooting range.

So you’re okay with people in private security or work with large amounts of cash and valuables who carry for protraction, having zero training and little access to a firing range? Seems dangerous to me.

Let the employer pay for the gun range and ammo. They can write it off as a business expense. And why shouldn’t a tax on guns and ammo offset some of the cost of the carnage? Taxpayers and those of us with healthcare are subsidizing the carnage of gun ownership and possession. Time for “responsible” gun owners to pay for their blind eye and turned back.

A lot don’t have employers. Ever been to a watch show, antique show or coin show? Dealers are walking to their cars and stores with $500,000+ inventory and thousands in cash. You think most aren’t armed? I sure hope they’ve been to a range if they ever need to use it.

And they’re not incorporated or operating as a “business?” They’re not in the “business” of selling watches or jewelry or coins or antiques? Or in the business of being an armed courier? Just a hobby? If so, time to find a new “hobby.” Or is it a line of “work?”

Any excuse. Any. To not own the “responsibility” of owning, possessing or carrying a firearm.

If they are armed for their line of “work,” or “hobby” should there be a legal requirement for a minimum of range time and if so, what should it be? How often are cops required other than their re-certification of proficiency? And cops aren’t all that proficient when firing their weapons to stop a bad guy.

Merkin Baller · June 2022

"Fuck them kids"

-America

Lerxst1992 · June 2022

HughFreakingDillon said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

i did not know anybody actually said the word varmint besides yosemite sam.

haha I honestly didn't know it was a real word. I thought it was slang.

cmon, you didn’t Google it when corduroy came out? Oh…wait.

HughFreakingDillon · June 2022

Lerxst1992 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

i did not know anybody actually said the word varmint besides yosemite sam.

haha I honestly didn't know it was a real word. I thought it was slang.

cmon, you didn’t Google it when corduroy came out? Oh…wait.

haha, I actually didn't know that word was in that song until this second.

static111 · June 2022

HughFreakingDillon said:

Lerxst1992 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

i did not know anybody actually said the word varmint besides yosemite sam.

haha I honestly didn't know it was a real word. I thought it was slang.

cmon, you didn’t Google it when corduroy came out? Oh…wait.

haha, I actually didn't know that word was in that song until this second.

I always thought it was vermin's path! Learned something new today.

OnWis97 · June 2022

HughFreakingDillon said:

Lerxst1992 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

i did not know anybody actually said the word varmint besides yosemite sam.

haha I honestly didn't know it was a real word. I thought it was slang.

cmon, you didn’t Google it when corduroy came out? Oh…wait.

haha, I actually didn't know that word was in that song until this second.

Me neither. I heard "I'll take the warmest path."

Nothing makes sense any more.

Merkin Baller · June 2022

I thought it was “firmest path”

lol

Lerxst1992 · June 2022

OnWis97 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Lerxst1992 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

i did not know anybody actually said the word varmint besides yosemite sam.

haha I honestly didn't know it was a real word. I thought it was slang.

cmon, you didn’t Google it when corduroy came out? Oh…wait.

haha, I actually didn't know that word was in that song until this second.

Me neither. I heard "I'll take the warmest path."

Nothing makes sense any more.

Huge smile guys.

I’ve always felt a bit out of place at shows because every time I am stunned how well everyone knows the words.

But varmint, THATS the one I got right from day one!

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