America's Gun Violence #2
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You can not legally buy a handgun person to person before the age of 21.tbergs said:
Well, I respectfully disagree. I care, and so do a majority of people, but banning/limiting handguns isn't going to happen any time soon so people are focusing on the deadly rifles used in a multitude of mass shootings, mainly at schools. Probably because an 18 year old can buy an AR, but not a handgun, unless of course it's a private sale, so that's the weapon of choice. And yeah, when people on here say AR, they mean any gun like that with that capability, not just an AR-15. You don't need to keep bringing it up. I think you know what we mean by this point.tempo_n_groove said:
Yes and again, it's not national news unless it w an AR.brianlux said:tempo_n_groove said:
Usually because it was with a handgun and not an AR. The AR story is newsworthy and a handgun is not.brianlux said:Related to what I said yesterday above, this is from a NY Times article this morning:"Shootings that kill multiple people are so common in this country that they often do not even make national news. They are a regular feature of American life. Tulsa has become the latest example — yet another gun crime that seems almost ordinary here and yet would be extremely rare in any other country as wealthy as the U.S."Yet it happens again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and...My point is that shooting are so common now, most of them go unnoticed. The Times listed the shooting this year that killed at least 3 people:2022, so far
Jan. 19, Baltimore: A man who worked for a gun violence reduction program was killed in an East Baltimore neighborhood, along with two others. A fourth person was injured.
Jan. 23, Milwaukee: Five men and a woman were found shot to death at a Park West neighborhood home. The police believe the attack targeted specific people.
Jan. 23, Inglewood, Calif.: The same day, a shooting at a birthday party killed four people, including two sisters, and wounded a fifth. The shooting was gang-related, the mayor said.
Jan. 29, St. Louis: A shooting near an intersection killed three young men and wounded a fourth. Police said they had no suspects.
Feb. 5, Corsicana and Frost, Texas: A 41-year-old man murdered his mother, his stepfather, his sons and the son of his ex-girlfriend in an overnight shooting. The man later fatally shot himself.
Feb. 28, Sacramento: A man shot dead his three daughters and their chaperone at a church during a court-approved visit. The children’s mother had a restraining order against the shooter, who killed himself.
March 12, Baltimore: A shooting in Northwest Baltimore killed three men in a car and wounded a fourth.
March 19, Fayetteville, N.C.: A Saturday night shootout in a hotel parking lot killed three people and wounded another three. The shooting may have been linked to a fight between motorcycle gangs.
March 19, Norfolk, Va.: Hours later, an argument outside a bar escalated into a shooting that killed three young bystanders. One of the victims was a 25-year-old newspaper reporter whose editor called her to cover the shooting, not realizing she had been killed.
April 3, Sacramento: At least five shooters fired more than 100 rounds a block from the State Capitol, killing six people — three men and three women — and wounding 12. The police described the shooting as gang-related.
April 20, Duluth, Minn.: A 29-year-old man who said he suffered from mental illness killed his aunt, uncle, two young cousins and their dog in their sleep. He later killed himself.
April 21, Mountain View, Ark.: A man killed his parents, another woman and her son at two homes half a mile apart in a rural community, the police say.
April 27, Biloxi, Miss.: A 32-year-old man killed the owner of the Broadway Inn Express motel and two employees in an argument over money. He fled to a neighboring town and fatally shot a fourth person. Police later found the gunman dead, barricaded inside a convenience store.
May 8, Clarkston, Ga.: Three people were shot to death and three others were wounded at a suburban Atlanta condo complex on a Sunday night.
May 14, Buffalo: An 18-year-old avowed white supremacist killed 10 people and wounded three more with an assault-style weapon in a live-streamed attack at a supermarket.
May 24, Uvalde, Texas: An 18-year-old gunman killed 19 students and two teachers at Robb Elementary School.
May 27, Stanwood, Mich.: A 51-year-old man allegedly killed his wife and her three young children at a home in Mecosta County before shooting himself, police said. The man remains in critical condition.
June 1, Tulsa, Okla.: A gunman killed his back surgeon, another doctor, a receptionist and a visitor at a medical building. He then killed himself.
We had a mass shooting in the subway. That barely made any headlines 1 because nobody was killed 2 not an AR and the only reason it might still is because there were 2 in NY at one time.
The media has a job, to sell advertising. Unfortunately those other shootings don't mean squat to the moneyline.
Don't fret though as one of the victims is suing Glock over the subway one. This will be interesting.
I say AR so everyone does understand what I am talking about and that does seem to be the weapon of choice. I can say "AR type" if those buzzwords are ok w everybody as I am the last person to need an update on the proper terminology.0 -
That's a fair point. If it's big one day then gone the next is what I meant.HughFreakingDillon said:
that's not what you said, though. you said it "barely made any headlines", which is false.tempo_n_groove said:
Still reading about it? It's all but forgotten here in NY.Halifax2TheMax said:
The NYC subway shooting “barely” made headlines? You’re kidding, right?tempo_n_groove said:
Yes and again, it's not national news unless it w an AR.brianlux said:tempo_n_groove said:
Usually because it was with a handgun and not an AR. The AR story is newsworthy and a handgun is not.brianlux said:Related to what I said yesterday above, this is from a NY Times article this morning:"Shootings that kill multiple people are so common in this country that they often do not even make national news. They are a regular feature of American life. Tulsa has become the latest example — yet another gun crime that seems almost ordinary here and yet would be extremely rare in any other country as wealthy as the U.S."Yet it happens again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and...My point is that shooting are so common now, most of them go unnoticed. The Times listed the shooting this year that killed at least 3 people:2022, so far
Jan. 19, Baltimore: A man who worked for a gun violence reduction program was killed in an East Baltimore neighborhood, along with two others. A fourth person was injured.
Jan. 23, Milwaukee: Five men and a woman were found shot to death at a Park West neighborhood home. The police believe the attack targeted specific people.
Jan. 23, Inglewood, Calif.: The same day, a shooting at a birthday party killed four people, including two sisters, and wounded a fifth. The shooting was gang-related, the mayor said.
Jan. 29, St. Louis: A shooting near an intersection killed three young men and wounded a fourth. Police said they had no suspects.
Feb. 5, Corsicana and Frost, Texas: A 41-year-old man murdered his mother, his stepfather, his sons and the son of his ex-girlfriend in an overnight shooting. The man later fatally shot himself.
Feb. 28, Sacramento: A man shot dead his three daughters and their chaperone at a church during a court-approved visit. The children’s mother had a restraining order against the shooter, who killed himself.
March 12, Baltimore: A shooting in Northwest Baltimore killed three men in a car and wounded a fourth.
March 19, Fayetteville, N.C.: A Saturday night shootout in a hotel parking lot killed three people and wounded another three. The shooting may have been linked to a fight between motorcycle gangs.
March 19, Norfolk, Va.: Hours later, an argument outside a bar escalated into a shooting that killed three young bystanders. One of the victims was a 25-year-old newspaper reporter whose editor called her to cover the shooting, not realizing she had been killed.
April 3, Sacramento: At least five shooters fired more than 100 rounds a block from the State Capitol, killing six people — three men and three women — and wounding 12. The police described the shooting as gang-related.
April 20, Duluth, Minn.: A 29-year-old man who said he suffered from mental illness killed his aunt, uncle, two young cousins and their dog in their sleep. He later killed himself.
April 21, Mountain View, Ark.: A man killed his parents, another woman and her son at two homes half a mile apart in a rural community, the police say.
April 27, Biloxi, Miss.: A 32-year-old man killed the owner of the Broadway Inn Express motel and two employees in an argument over money. He fled to a neighboring town and fatally shot a fourth person. Police later found the gunman dead, barricaded inside a convenience store.
May 8, Clarkston, Ga.: Three people were shot to death and three others were wounded at a suburban Atlanta condo complex on a Sunday night.
May 14, Buffalo: An 18-year-old avowed white supremacist killed 10 people and wounded three more with an assault-style weapon in a live-streamed attack at a supermarket.
May 24, Uvalde, Texas: An 18-year-old gunman killed 19 students and two teachers at Robb Elementary School.
May 27, Stanwood, Mich.: A 51-year-old man allegedly killed his wife and her three young children at a home in Mecosta County before shooting himself, police said. The man remains in critical condition.
June 1, Tulsa, Okla.: A gunman killed his back surgeon, another doctor, a receptionist and a visitor at a medical building. He then killed himself.
We had a mass shooting in the subway. That barely made any headlines 1 because nobody was killed 2 not an AR and the only reason it might still is because there were 2 in NY at one time.
The media has a job, to sell advertising. Unfortunately those other shootings don't mean squat to the moneyline.
Don't fret though as one of the victims is suing Glock over the subway one. This will be interesting.
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tempo_n_groove said:
Actually it does. Look at Brian's list. How many of them have you heard of?Merkin Baller said:tempo_n_groove said:
Yes and again, it's not national news unless it w an AR.brianlux said:tempo_n_groove said:
Usually because it was with a handgun and not an AR. The AR story is newsworthy and a handgun is not.brianlux said:Related to what I said yesterday above, this is from a NY Times article this morning:"Shootings that kill multiple people are so common in this country that they often do not even make national news. They are a regular feature of American life. Tulsa has become the latest example — yet another gun crime that seems almost ordinary here and yet would be extremely rare in any other country as wealthy as the U.S."Yet it happens again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and...My point is that shooting are so common now, most of them go unnoticed. The Times listed the shooting this year that killed at least 3 people:2022, so far
Jan. 19, Baltimore: A man who worked for a gun violence reduction program was killed in an East Baltimore neighborhood, along with two others. A fourth person was injured.
Jan. 23, Milwaukee: Five men and a woman were found shot to death at a Park West neighborhood home. The police believe the attack targeted specific people.
Jan. 23, Inglewood, Calif.: The same day, a shooting at a birthday party killed four people, including two sisters, and wounded a fifth. The shooting was gang-related, the mayor said.
Jan. 29, St. Louis: A shooting near an intersection killed three young men and wounded a fourth. Police said they had no suspects.
Feb. 5, Corsicana and Frost, Texas: A 41-year-old man murdered his mother, his stepfather, his sons and the son of his ex-girlfriend in an overnight shooting. The man later fatally shot himself.
Feb. 28, Sacramento: A man shot dead his three daughters and their chaperone at a church during a court-approved visit. The children’s mother had a restraining order against the shooter, who killed himself.
March 12, Baltimore: A shooting in Northwest Baltimore killed three men in a car and wounded a fourth.
March 19, Fayetteville, N.C.: A Saturday night shootout in a hotel parking lot killed three people and wounded another three. The shooting may have been linked to a fight between motorcycle gangs.
March 19, Norfolk, Va.: Hours later, an argument outside a bar escalated into a shooting that killed three young bystanders. One of the victims was a 25-year-old newspaper reporter whose editor called her to cover the shooting, not realizing she had been killed.
April 3, Sacramento: At least five shooters fired more than 100 rounds a block from the State Capitol, killing six people — three men and three women — and wounding 12. The police described the shooting as gang-related.
April 20, Duluth, Minn.: A 29-year-old man who said he suffered from mental illness killed his aunt, uncle, two young cousins and their dog in their sleep. He later killed himself.
April 21, Mountain View, Ark.: A man killed his parents, another woman and her son at two homes half a mile apart in a rural community, the police say.
April 27, Biloxi, Miss.: A 32-year-old man killed the owner of the Broadway Inn Express motel and two employees in an argument over money. He fled to a neighboring town and fatally shot a fourth person. Police later found the gunman dead, barricaded inside a convenience store.
May 8, Clarkston, Ga.: Three people were shot to death and three others were wounded at a suburban Atlanta condo complex on a Sunday night.
May 14, Buffalo: An 18-year-old avowed white supremacist killed 10 people and wounded three more with an assault-style weapon in a live-streamed attack at a supermarket.
May 24, Uvalde, Texas: An 18-year-old gunman killed 19 students and two teachers at Robb Elementary School.
May 27, Stanwood, Mich.: A 51-year-old man allegedly killed his wife and her three young children at a home in Mecosta County before shooting himself, police said. The man remains in critical condition.
June 1, Tulsa, Okla.: A gunman killed his back surgeon, another doctor, a receptionist and a visitor at a medical building. He then killed himself.
We had a mass shooting in the subway. That barely made any headlines 1 because nobody was killed 2 not an AR and the only reason it might still is because there were 2 in NY at one time.
The media has a job, to sell advertising. Unfortunately those other shootings don't mean squat to the moneyline.
Don't fret though as one of the victims is suing Glock over the subway one. This will be interesting.
The Orlando nightclub shooting didn't make the national news?
Or the Charleston shooting?
Or Virginia Tech?
Sorry, your argument is nonsense.
The ones you listed do have more than 10 each dead and that will be on any headline if they died
from a slingshot.
You referenced a shooting where literally no one died to make your point. There's only so many stories the news can cover, and in a country where there are shootings literally every day, it's impossible to cover them all.
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Not true. It's part of the loophole.tempo_n_groove said:
You can not legally buy a handgun person to person before the age of 21.tbergs said:
Well, I respectfully disagree. I care, and so do a majority of people, but banning/limiting handguns isn't going to happen any time soon so people are focusing on the deadly rifles used in a multitude of mass shootings, mainly at schools. Probably because an 18 year old can buy an AR, but not a handgun, unless of course it's a private sale, so that's the weapon of choice. And yeah, when people on here say AR, they mean any gun like that with that capability, not just an AR-15. You don't need to keep bringing it up. I think you know what we mean by this point.tempo_n_groove said:
Yes and again, it's not national news unless it w an AR.brianlux said:tempo_n_groove said:
Usually because it was with a handgun and not an AR. The AR story is newsworthy and a handgun is not.brianlux said:Related to what I said yesterday above, this is from a NY Times article this morning:"Shootings that kill multiple people are so common in this country that they often do not even make national news. They are a regular feature of American life. Tulsa has become the latest example — yet another gun crime that seems almost ordinary here and yet would be extremely rare in any other country as wealthy as the U.S."Yet it happens again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and...My point is that shooting are so common now, most of them go unnoticed. The Times listed the shooting this year that killed at least 3 people:2022, so far
Jan. 19, Baltimore: A man who worked for a gun violence reduction program was killed in an East Baltimore neighborhood, along with two others. A fourth person was injured.
Jan. 23, Milwaukee: Five men and a woman were found shot to death at a Park West neighborhood home. The police believe the attack targeted specific people.
Jan. 23, Inglewood, Calif.: The same day, a shooting at a birthday party killed four people, including two sisters, and wounded a fifth. The shooting was gang-related, the mayor said.
Jan. 29, St. Louis: A shooting near an intersection killed three young men and wounded a fourth. Police said they had no suspects.
Feb. 5, Corsicana and Frost, Texas: A 41-year-old man murdered his mother, his stepfather, his sons and the son of his ex-girlfriend in an overnight shooting. The man later fatally shot himself.
Feb. 28, Sacramento: A man shot dead his three daughters and their chaperone at a church during a court-approved visit. The children’s mother had a restraining order against the shooter, who killed himself.
March 12, Baltimore: A shooting in Northwest Baltimore killed three men in a car and wounded a fourth.
March 19, Fayetteville, N.C.: A Saturday night shootout in a hotel parking lot killed three people and wounded another three. The shooting may have been linked to a fight between motorcycle gangs.
March 19, Norfolk, Va.: Hours later, an argument outside a bar escalated into a shooting that killed three young bystanders. One of the victims was a 25-year-old newspaper reporter whose editor called her to cover the shooting, not realizing she had been killed.
April 3, Sacramento: At least five shooters fired more than 100 rounds a block from the State Capitol, killing six people — three men and three women — and wounding 12. The police described the shooting as gang-related.
April 20, Duluth, Minn.: A 29-year-old man who said he suffered from mental illness killed his aunt, uncle, two young cousins and their dog in their sleep. He later killed himself.
April 21, Mountain View, Ark.: A man killed his parents, another woman and her son at two homes half a mile apart in a rural community, the police say.
April 27, Biloxi, Miss.: A 32-year-old man killed the owner of the Broadway Inn Express motel and two employees in an argument over money. He fled to a neighboring town and fatally shot a fourth person. Police later found the gunman dead, barricaded inside a convenience store.
May 8, Clarkston, Ga.: Three people were shot to death and three others were wounded at a suburban Atlanta condo complex on a Sunday night.
May 14, Buffalo: An 18-year-old avowed white supremacist killed 10 people and wounded three more with an assault-style weapon in a live-streamed attack at a supermarket.
May 24, Uvalde, Texas: An 18-year-old gunman killed 19 students and two teachers at Robb Elementary School.
May 27, Stanwood, Mich.: A 51-year-old man allegedly killed his wife and her three young children at a home in Mecosta County before shooting himself, police said. The man remains in critical condition.
June 1, Tulsa, Okla.: A gunman killed his back surgeon, another doctor, a receptionist and a visitor at a medical building. He then killed himself.
We had a mass shooting in the subway. That barely made any headlines 1 because nobody was killed 2 not an AR and the only reason it might still is because there were 2 in NY at one time.
The media has a job, to sell advertising. Unfortunately those other shootings don't mean squat to the moneyline.
Don't fret though as one of the victims is suing Glock over the subway one. This will be interesting.
I say AR so everyone does understand what I am talking about and that does seem to be the weapon of choice. I can say "AR type" if those buzzwords are ok w everybody as I am the last person to need an update on the proper terminology.
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/may-individual-between-ages-18-and-21-years-age-acquire-handgun-unlicensed-individual
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well, when there's so much wrong with one post, it's hard not to. LOLtempo_n_groove said:
That's a fair point. If it's big one day then gone the next is what I meant.HughFreakingDillon said:
that's not what you said, though. you said it "barely made any headlines", which is false.tempo_n_groove said:
Still reading about it? It's all but forgotten here in NY.Halifax2TheMax said:
The NYC subway shooting “barely” made headlines? You’re kidding, right?tempo_n_groove said:
Yes and again, it's not national news unless it w an AR.brianlux said:tempo_n_groove said:
Usually because it was with a handgun and not an AR. The AR story is newsworthy and a handgun is not.brianlux said:Related to what I said yesterday above, this is from a NY Times article this morning:"Shootings that kill multiple people are so common in this country that they often do not even make national news. They are a regular feature of American life. Tulsa has become the latest example — yet another gun crime that seems almost ordinary here and yet would be extremely rare in any other country as wealthy as the U.S."Yet it happens again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and...My point is that shooting are so common now, most of them go unnoticed. The Times listed the shooting this year that killed at least 3 people:2022, so far
Jan. 19, Baltimore: A man who worked for a gun violence reduction program was killed in an East Baltimore neighborhood, along with two others. A fourth person was injured.
Jan. 23, Milwaukee: Five men and a woman were found shot to death at a Park West neighborhood home. The police believe the attack targeted specific people.
Jan. 23, Inglewood, Calif.: The same day, a shooting at a birthday party killed four people, including two sisters, and wounded a fifth. The shooting was gang-related, the mayor said.
Jan. 29, St. Louis: A shooting near an intersection killed three young men and wounded a fourth. Police said they had no suspects.
Feb. 5, Corsicana and Frost, Texas: A 41-year-old man murdered his mother, his stepfather, his sons and the son of his ex-girlfriend in an overnight shooting. The man later fatally shot himself.
Feb. 28, Sacramento: A man shot dead his three daughters and their chaperone at a church during a court-approved visit. The children’s mother had a restraining order against the shooter, who killed himself.
March 12, Baltimore: A shooting in Northwest Baltimore killed three men in a car and wounded a fourth.
March 19, Fayetteville, N.C.: A Saturday night shootout in a hotel parking lot killed three people and wounded another three. The shooting may have been linked to a fight between motorcycle gangs.
March 19, Norfolk, Va.: Hours later, an argument outside a bar escalated into a shooting that killed three young bystanders. One of the victims was a 25-year-old newspaper reporter whose editor called her to cover the shooting, not realizing she had been killed.
April 3, Sacramento: At least five shooters fired more than 100 rounds a block from the State Capitol, killing six people — three men and three women — and wounding 12. The police described the shooting as gang-related.
April 20, Duluth, Minn.: A 29-year-old man who said he suffered from mental illness killed his aunt, uncle, two young cousins and their dog in their sleep. He later killed himself.
April 21, Mountain View, Ark.: A man killed his parents, another woman and her son at two homes half a mile apart in a rural community, the police say.
April 27, Biloxi, Miss.: A 32-year-old man killed the owner of the Broadway Inn Express motel and two employees in an argument over money. He fled to a neighboring town and fatally shot a fourth person. Police later found the gunman dead, barricaded inside a convenience store.
May 8, Clarkston, Ga.: Three people were shot to death and three others were wounded at a suburban Atlanta condo complex on a Sunday night.
May 14, Buffalo: An 18-year-old avowed white supremacist killed 10 people and wounded three more with an assault-style weapon in a live-streamed attack at a supermarket.
May 24, Uvalde, Texas: An 18-year-old gunman killed 19 students and two teachers at Robb Elementary School.
May 27, Stanwood, Mich.: A 51-year-old man allegedly killed his wife and her three young children at a home in Mecosta County before shooting himself, police said. The man remains in critical condition.
June 1, Tulsa, Okla.: A gunman killed his back surgeon, another doctor, a receptionist and a visitor at a medical building. He then killed himself.
We had a mass shooting in the subway. That barely made any headlines 1 because nobody was killed 2 not an AR and the only reason it might still is because there were 2 in NY at one time.
The media has a job, to sell advertising. Unfortunately those other shootings don't mean squat to the moneyline.
Don't fret though as one of the victims is suing Glock over the subway one. This will be interesting.
Anyone else need to pile on?By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
I'm having a hard time finding any state that actually allows that. I keep pulling up that ATF section and 18 for rifles and 21 for handguns for each state.tbergs said:
Not true. It's part of the loophole.tempo_n_groove said:
You can not legally buy a handgun person to person before the age of 21.tbergs said:
Well, I respectfully disagree. I care, and so do a majority of people, but banning/limiting handguns isn't going to happen any time soon so people are focusing on the deadly rifles used in a multitude of mass shootings, mainly at schools. Probably because an 18 year old can buy an AR, but not a handgun, unless of course it's a private sale, so that's the weapon of choice. And yeah, when people on here say AR, they mean any gun like that with that capability, not just an AR-15. You don't need to keep bringing it up. I think you know what we mean by this point.tempo_n_groove said:
Yes and again, it's not national news unless it w an AR.brianlux said:tempo_n_groove said:
Usually because it was with a handgun and not an AR. The AR story is newsworthy and a handgun is not.brianlux said:Related to what I said yesterday above, this is from a NY Times article this morning:"Shootings that kill multiple people are so common in this country that they often do not even make national news. They are a regular feature of American life. Tulsa has become the latest example — yet another gun crime that seems almost ordinary here and yet would be extremely rare in any other country as wealthy as the U.S."Yet it happens again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and...My point is that shooting are so common now, most of them go unnoticed. The Times listed the shooting this year that killed at least 3 people:2022, so far
Jan. 19, Baltimore: A man who worked for a gun violence reduction program was killed in an East Baltimore neighborhood, along with two others. A fourth person was injured.
Jan. 23, Milwaukee: Five men and a woman were found shot to death at a Park West neighborhood home. The police believe the attack targeted specific people.
Jan. 23, Inglewood, Calif.: The same day, a shooting at a birthday party killed four people, including two sisters, and wounded a fifth. The shooting was gang-related, the mayor said.
Jan. 29, St. Louis: A shooting near an intersection killed three young men and wounded a fourth. Police said they had no suspects.
Feb. 5, Corsicana and Frost, Texas: A 41-year-old man murdered his mother, his stepfather, his sons and the son of his ex-girlfriend in an overnight shooting. The man later fatally shot himself.
Feb. 28, Sacramento: A man shot dead his three daughters and their chaperone at a church during a court-approved visit. The children’s mother had a restraining order against the shooter, who killed himself.
March 12, Baltimore: A shooting in Northwest Baltimore killed three men in a car and wounded a fourth.
March 19, Fayetteville, N.C.: A Saturday night shootout in a hotel parking lot killed three people and wounded another three. The shooting may have been linked to a fight between motorcycle gangs.
March 19, Norfolk, Va.: Hours later, an argument outside a bar escalated into a shooting that killed three young bystanders. One of the victims was a 25-year-old newspaper reporter whose editor called her to cover the shooting, not realizing she had been killed.
April 3, Sacramento: At least five shooters fired more than 100 rounds a block from the State Capitol, killing six people — three men and three women — and wounding 12. The police described the shooting as gang-related.
April 20, Duluth, Minn.: A 29-year-old man who said he suffered from mental illness killed his aunt, uncle, two young cousins and their dog in their sleep. He later killed himself.
April 21, Mountain View, Ark.: A man killed his parents, another woman and her son at two homes half a mile apart in a rural community, the police say.
April 27, Biloxi, Miss.: A 32-year-old man killed the owner of the Broadway Inn Express motel and two employees in an argument over money. He fled to a neighboring town and fatally shot a fourth person. Police later found the gunman dead, barricaded inside a convenience store.
May 8, Clarkston, Ga.: Three people were shot to death and three others were wounded at a suburban Atlanta condo complex on a Sunday night.
May 14, Buffalo: An 18-year-old avowed white supremacist killed 10 people and wounded three more with an assault-style weapon in a live-streamed attack at a supermarket.
May 24, Uvalde, Texas: An 18-year-old gunman killed 19 students and two teachers at Robb Elementary School.
May 27, Stanwood, Mich.: A 51-year-old man allegedly killed his wife and her three young children at a home in Mecosta County before shooting himself, police said. The man remains in critical condition.
June 1, Tulsa, Okla.: A gunman killed his back surgeon, another doctor, a receptionist and a visitor at a medical building. He then killed himself.
We had a mass shooting in the subway. That barely made any headlines 1 because nobody was killed 2 not an AR and the only reason it might still is because there were 2 in NY at one time.
The media has a job, to sell advertising. Unfortunately those other shootings don't mean squat to the moneyline.
Don't fret though as one of the victims is suing Glock over the subway one. This will be interesting.
I say AR so everyone does understand what I am talking about and that does seem to be the weapon of choice. I can say "AR type" if those buzzwords are ok w everybody as I am the last person to need an update on the proper terminology.
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/may-individual-between-ages-18-and-21-years-age-acquire-handgun-unlicensed-individual0 -
Please explain?HughFreakingDillon said:
well, when there's so much wrong with one post, it's hard not to. LOLtempo_n_groove said:
That's a fair point. If it's big one day then gone the next is what I meant.HughFreakingDillon said:
that's not what you said, though. you said it "barely made any headlines", which is false.tempo_n_groove said:
Still reading about it? It's all but forgotten here in NY.Halifax2TheMax said:
The NYC subway shooting “barely” made headlines? You’re kidding, right?tempo_n_groove said:
Yes and again, it's not national news unless it w an AR.brianlux said:tempo_n_groove said:
Usually because it was with a handgun and not an AR. The AR story is newsworthy and a handgun is not.brianlux said:Related to what I said yesterday above, this is from a NY Times article this morning:"Shootings that kill multiple people are so common in this country that they often do not even make national news. They are a regular feature of American life. Tulsa has become the latest example — yet another gun crime that seems almost ordinary here and yet would be extremely rare in any other country as wealthy as the U.S."Yet it happens again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and...My point is that shooting are so common now, most of them go unnoticed. The Times listed the shooting this year that killed at least 3 people:2022, so far
Jan. 19, Baltimore: A man who worked for a gun violence reduction program was killed in an East Baltimore neighborhood, along with two others. A fourth person was injured.
Jan. 23, Milwaukee: Five men and a woman were found shot to death at a Park West neighborhood home. The police believe the attack targeted specific people.
Jan. 23, Inglewood, Calif.: The same day, a shooting at a birthday party killed four people, including two sisters, and wounded a fifth. The shooting was gang-related, the mayor said.
Jan. 29, St. Louis: A shooting near an intersection killed three young men and wounded a fourth. Police said they had no suspects.
Feb. 5, Corsicana and Frost, Texas: A 41-year-old man murdered his mother, his stepfather, his sons and the son of his ex-girlfriend in an overnight shooting. The man later fatally shot himself.
Feb. 28, Sacramento: A man shot dead his three daughters and their chaperone at a church during a court-approved visit. The children’s mother had a restraining order against the shooter, who killed himself.
March 12, Baltimore: A shooting in Northwest Baltimore killed three men in a car and wounded a fourth.
March 19, Fayetteville, N.C.: A Saturday night shootout in a hotel parking lot killed three people and wounded another three. The shooting may have been linked to a fight between motorcycle gangs.
March 19, Norfolk, Va.: Hours later, an argument outside a bar escalated into a shooting that killed three young bystanders. One of the victims was a 25-year-old newspaper reporter whose editor called her to cover the shooting, not realizing she had been killed.
April 3, Sacramento: At least five shooters fired more than 100 rounds a block from the State Capitol, killing six people — three men and three women — and wounding 12. The police described the shooting as gang-related.
April 20, Duluth, Minn.: A 29-year-old man who said he suffered from mental illness killed his aunt, uncle, two young cousins and their dog in their sleep. He later killed himself.
April 21, Mountain View, Ark.: A man killed his parents, another woman and her son at two homes half a mile apart in a rural community, the police say.
April 27, Biloxi, Miss.: A 32-year-old man killed the owner of the Broadway Inn Express motel and two employees in an argument over money. He fled to a neighboring town and fatally shot a fourth person. Police later found the gunman dead, barricaded inside a convenience store.
May 8, Clarkston, Ga.: Three people were shot to death and three others were wounded at a suburban Atlanta condo complex on a Sunday night.
May 14, Buffalo: An 18-year-old avowed white supremacist killed 10 people and wounded three more with an assault-style weapon in a live-streamed attack at a supermarket.
May 24, Uvalde, Texas: An 18-year-old gunman killed 19 students and two teachers at Robb Elementary School.
May 27, Stanwood, Mich.: A 51-year-old man allegedly killed his wife and her three young children at a home in Mecosta County before shooting himself, police said. The man remains in critical condition.
June 1, Tulsa, Okla.: A gunman killed his back surgeon, another doctor, a receptionist and a visitor at a medical building. He then killed himself.
We had a mass shooting in the subway. That barely made any headlines 1 because nobody was killed 2 not an AR and the only reason it might still is because there were 2 in NY at one time.
The media has a job, to sell advertising. Unfortunately those other shootings don't mean squat to the moneyline.
Don't fret though as one of the victims is suing Glock over the subway one. This will be interesting.
Anyone else need to pile on?
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HughFreakingDillon said:
sentence 1 is not true.tempo_n_groove said:
Yes and again, it's not national news unless it w an AR.brianlux said:tempo_n_groove said:
Usually because it was with a handgun and not an AR. The AR story is newsworthy and a handgun is not.brianlux said:Related to what I said yesterday above, this is from a NY Times article this morning:"Shootings that kill multiple people are so common in this country that they often do not even make national news. They are a regular feature of American life. Tulsa has become the latest example — yet another gun crime that seems almost ordinary here and yet would be extremely rare in any other country as wealthy as the U.S."Yet it happens again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and...My point is that shooting are so common now, most of them go unnoticed. The Times listed the shooting this year that killed at least 3 people:2022, so far
Jan. 19, Baltimore: A man who worked for a gun violence reduction program was killed in an East Baltimore neighborhood, along with two others. A fourth person was injured.
Jan. 23, Milwaukee: Five men and a woman were found shot to death at a Park West neighborhood home. The police believe the attack targeted specific people.
Jan. 23, Inglewood, Calif.: The same day, a shooting at a birthday party killed four people, including two sisters, and wounded a fifth. The shooting was gang-related, the mayor said.
Jan. 29, St. Louis: A shooting near an intersection killed three young men and wounded a fourth. Police said they had no suspects.
Feb. 5, Corsicana and Frost, Texas: A 41-year-old man murdered his mother, his stepfather, his sons and the son of his ex-girlfriend in an overnight shooting. The man later fatally shot himself.
Feb. 28, Sacramento: A man shot dead his three daughters and their chaperone at a church during a court-approved visit. The children’s mother had a restraining order against the shooter, who killed himself.
March 12, Baltimore: A shooting in Northwest Baltimore killed three men in a car and wounded a fourth.
March 19, Fayetteville, N.C.: A Saturday night shootout in a hotel parking lot killed three people and wounded another three. The shooting may have been linked to a fight between motorcycle gangs.
March 19, Norfolk, Va.: Hours later, an argument outside a bar escalated into a shooting that killed three young bystanders. One of the victims was a 25-year-old newspaper reporter whose editor called her to cover the shooting, not realizing she had been killed.
April 3, Sacramento: At least five shooters fired more than 100 rounds a block from the State Capitol, killing six people — three men and three women — and wounding 12. The police described the shooting as gang-related.
April 20, Duluth, Minn.: A 29-year-old man who said he suffered from mental illness killed his aunt, uncle, two young cousins and their dog in their sleep. He later killed himself.
April 21, Mountain View, Ark.: A man killed his parents, another woman and her son at two homes half a mile apart in a rural community, the police say.
April 27, Biloxi, Miss.: A 32-year-old man killed the owner of the Broadway Inn Express motel and two employees in an argument over money. He fled to a neighboring town and fatally shot a fourth person. Police later found the gunman dead, barricaded inside a convenience store.
May 8, Clarkston, Ga.: Three people were shot to death and three others were wounded at a suburban Atlanta condo complex on a Sunday night.
May 14, Buffalo: An 18-year-old avowed white supremacist killed 10 people and wounded three more with an assault-style weapon in a live-streamed attack at a supermarket.
May 24, Uvalde, Texas: An 18-year-old gunman killed 19 students and two teachers at Robb Elementary School.
May 27, Stanwood, Mich.: A 51-year-old man allegedly killed his wife and her three young children at a home in Mecosta County before shooting himself, police said. The man remains in critical condition.
June 1, Tulsa, Okla.: A gunman killed his back surgeon, another doctor, a receptionist and a visitor at a medical building. He then killed himself.
We had a mass shooting in the subway. That barely made any headlines 1 because nobody was killed 2 not an AR and the only reason it might still is because there were 2 in NY at one time.
The media has a job, to sell advertising. Unfortunately those other shootings don't mean squat to the moneyline.
Don't fret though as one of the victims is suing Glock over the subway one. This will be interesting.
paragraph 2: it did make national, international headlines even. I heard about it almost immediately. It was all over the place.
Paragraph 3: partially correct. yes, the media goes with the most sensationalistic stories. no question. however, they give the public what they want, and that is "the bigger the tragedy, the longer it stays in the news cycle". it has zero to do with the type of gun used. It has everything to do with how many people were injured/killed and who it was. it's obviously going to be seen as a much bigger tragedy if it's a bunch of kids minding their own business trying to learn how to spell. It's a crime that is harder for the general public to understand, hence why it stays around longer.tempo_n_groove said:
Please explain?HughFreakingDillon said:
well, when there's so much wrong with one post, it's hard not to. LOLtempo_n_groove said:
That's a fair point. If it's big one day then gone the next is what I meant.HughFreakingDillon said:
that's not what you said, though. you said it "barely made any headlines", which is false.tempo_n_groove said:
Still reading about it? It's all but forgotten here in NY.Halifax2TheMax said:
The NYC subway shooting “barely” made headlines? You’re kidding, right?tempo_n_groove said:
Yes and again, it's not national news unless it w an AR.brianlux said:tempo_n_groove said:
Usually because it was with a handgun and not an AR. The AR story is newsworthy and a handgun is not.brianlux said:Related to what I said yesterday above, this is from a NY Times article this morning:"Shootings that kill multiple people are so common in this country that they often do not even make national news. They are a regular feature of American life. Tulsa has become the latest example — yet another gun crime that seems almost ordinary here and yet would be extremely rare in any other country as wealthy as the U.S."Yet it happens again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and...My point is that shooting are so common now, most of them go unnoticed. The Times listed the shooting this year that killed at least 3 people:2022, so far
Jan. 19, Baltimore: A man who worked for a gun violence reduction program was killed in an East Baltimore neighborhood, along with two others. A fourth person was injured.
Jan. 23, Milwaukee: Five men and a woman were found shot to death at a Park West neighborhood home. The police believe the attack targeted specific people.
Jan. 23, Inglewood, Calif.: The same day, a shooting at a birthday party killed four people, including two sisters, and wounded a fifth. The shooting was gang-related, the mayor said.
Jan. 29, St. Louis: A shooting near an intersection killed three young men and wounded a fourth. Police said they had no suspects.
Feb. 5, Corsicana and Frost, Texas: A 41-year-old man murdered his mother, his stepfather, his sons and the son of his ex-girlfriend in an overnight shooting. The man later fatally shot himself.
Feb. 28, Sacramento: A man shot dead his three daughters and their chaperone at a church during a court-approved visit. The children’s mother had a restraining order against the shooter, who killed himself.
March 12, Baltimore: A shooting in Northwest Baltimore killed three men in a car and wounded a fourth.
March 19, Fayetteville, N.C.: A Saturday night shootout in a hotel parking lot killed three people and wounded another three. The shooting may have been linked to a fight between motorcycle gangs.
March 19, Norfolk, Va.: Hours later, an argument outside a bar escalated into a shooting that killed three young bystanders. One of the victims was a 25-year-old newspaper reporter whose editor called her to cover the shooting, not realizing she had been killed.
April 3, Sacramento: At least five shooters fired more than 100 rounds a block from the State Capitol, killing six people — three men and three women — and wounding 12. The police described the shooting as gang-related.
April 20, Duluth, Minn.: A 29-year-old man who said he suffered from mental illness killed his aunt, uncle, two young cousins and their dog in their sleep. He later killed himself.
April 21, Mountain View, Ark.: A man killed his parents, another woman and her son at two homes half a mile apart in a rural community, the police say.
April 27, Biloxi, Miss.: A 32-year-old man killed the owner of the Broadway Inn Express motel and two employees in an argument over money. He fled to a neighboring town and fatally shot a fourth person. Police later found the gunman dead, barricaded inside a convenience store.
May 8, Clarkston, Ga.: Three people were shot to death and three others were wounded at a suburban Atlanta condo complex on a Sunday night.
May 14, Buffalo: An 18-year-old avowed white supremacist killed 10 people and wounded three more with an assault-style weapon in a live-streamed attack at a supermarket.
May 24, Uvalde, Texas: An 18-year-old gunman killed 19 students and two teachers at Robb Elementary School.
May 27, Stanwood, Mich.: A 51-year-old man allegedly killed his wife and her three young children at a home in Mecosta County before shooting himself, police said. The man remains in critical condition.
June 1, Tulsa, Okla.: A gunman killed his back surgeon, another doctor, a receptionist and a visitor at a medical building. He then killed himself.
We had a mass shooting in the subway. That barely made any headlines 1 because nobody was killed 2 not an AR and the only reason it might still is because there were 2 in NY at one time.
The media has a job, to sell advertising. Unfortunately those other shootings don't mean squat to the moneyline.
Don't fret though as one of the victims is suing Glock over the subway one. This will be interesting.
Anyone else need to pile on?
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1-For Brians list it is true.HughFreakingDillon said:HughFreakingDillon said:
sentence 1 is not true.tempo_n_groove said:
Yes and again, it's not national news unless it w an AR.brianlux said:tempo_n_groove said:
Usually because it was with a handgun and not an AR. The AR story is newsworthy and a handgun is not.brianlux said:Related to what I said yesterday above, this is from a NY Times article this morning:"Shootings that kill multiple people are so common in this country that they often do not even make national news. They are a regular feature of American life. Tulsa has become the latest example — yet another gun crime that seems almost ordinary here and yet would be extremely rare in any other country as wealthy as the U.S."Yet it happens again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and...My point is that shooting are so common now, most of them go unnoticed. The Times listed the shooting this year that killed at least 3 people:2022, so far
Jan. 19, Baltimore: A man who worked for a gun violence reduction program was killed in an East Baltimore neighborhood, along with two others. A fourth person was injured.
Jan. 23, Milwaukee: Five men and a woman were found shot to death at a Park West neighborhood home. The police believe the attack targeted specific people.
Jan. 23, Inglewood, Calif.: The same day, a shooting at a birthday party killed four people, including two sisters, and wounded a fifth. The shooting was gang-related, the mayor said.
Jan. 29, St. Louis: A shooting near an intersection killed three young men and wounded a fourth. Police said they had no suspects.
Feb. 5, Corsicana and Frost, Texas: A 41-year-old man murdered his mother, his stepfather, his sons and the son of his ex-girlfriend in an overnight shooting. The man later fatally shot himself.
Feb. 28, Sacramento: A man shot dead his three daughters and their chaperone at a church during a court-approved visit. The children’s mother had a restraining order against the shooter, who killed himself.
March 12, Baltimore: A shooting in Northwest Baltimore killed three men in a car and wounded a fourth.
March 19, Fayetteville, N.C.: A Saturday night shootout in a hotel parking lot killed three people and wounded another three. The shooting may have been linked to a fight between motorcycle gangs.
March 19, Norfolk, Va.: Hours later, an argument outside a bar escalated into a shooting that killed three young bystanders. One of the victims was a 25-year-old newspaper reporter whose editor called her to cover the shooting, not realizing she had been killed.
April 3, Sacramento: At least five shooters fired more than 100 rounds a block from the State Capitol, killing six people — three men and three women — and wounding 12. The police described the shooting as gang-related.
April 20, Duluth, Minn.: A 29-year-old man who said he suffered from mental illness killed his aunt, uncle, two young cousins and their dog in their sleep. He later killed himself.
April 21, Mountain View, Ark.: A man killed his parents, another woman and her son at two homes half a mile apart in a rural community, the police say.
April 27, Biloxi, Miss.: A 32-year-old man killed the owner of the Broadway Inn Express motel and two employees in an argument over money. He fled to a neighboring town and fatally shot a fourth person. Police later found the gunman dead, barricaded inside a convenience store.
May 8, Clarkston, Ga.: Three people were shot to death and three others were wounded at a suburban Atlanta condo complex on a Sunday night.
May 14, Buffalo: An 18-year-old avowed white supremacist killed 10 people and wounded three more with an assault-style weapon in a live-streamed attack at a supermarket.
May 24, Uvalde, Texas: An 18-year-old gunman killed 19 students and two teachers at Robb Elementary School.
May 27, Stanwood, Mich.: A 51-year-old man allegedly killed his wife and her three young children at a home in Mecosta County before shooting himself, police said. The man remains in critical condition.
June 1, Tulsa, Okla.: A gunman killed his back surgeon, another doctor, a receptionist and a visitor at a medical building. He then killed himself.
We had a mass shooting in the subway. That barely made any headlines 1 because nobody was killed 2 not an AR and the only reason it might still is because there were 2 in NY at one time.
The media has a job, to sell advertising. Unfortunately those other shootings don't mean squat to the moneyline.
Don't fret though as one of the victims is suing Glock over the subway one. This will be interesting.
paragraph 2: it did make national, international headlines even. I heard about it almost immediately. It was all over the place.
Paragraph 3: partially correct. yes, the media goes with the most sensationalistic stories. no question. however, they give the public what they want, and that is "the bigger the tragedy, the longer it stays in the news cycle". it has zero to do with the type of gun used. It has everything to do with how many people were injured/killed and who it was. it's obviously going to be seen as a much bigger tragedy if it's a bunch of kids minding their own business trying to learn how to spell. It's a crime that is harder for the general public to understand, hence why it stays around longer.
Please explain?
2-I corrected myself.
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A lot of them do.tempo_n_groove said:
I'm having a hard time finding any state that actually allows that. I keep pulling up that ATF section and 18 for rifles and 21 for handguns for each state.tbergs said:
Not true. It's part of the loophole.tempo_n_groove said:
You can not legally buy a handgun person to person before the age of 21.tbergs said:
Well, I respectfully disagree. I care, and so do a majority of people, but banning/limiting handguns isn't going to happen any time soon so people are focusing on the deadly rifles used in a multitude of mass shootings, mainly at schools. Probably because an 18 year old can buy an AR, but not a handgun, unless of course it's a private sale, so that's the weapon of choice. And yeah, when people on here say AR, they mean any gun like that with that capability, not just an AR-15. You don't need to keep bringing it up. I think you know what we mean by this point.tempo_n_groove said:
Yes and again, it's not national news unless it w an AR.brianlux said:tempo_n_groove said:
Usually because it was with a handgun and not an AR. The AR story is newsworthy and a handgun is not.brianlux said:Related to what I said yesterday above, this is from a NY Times article this morning:"Shootings that kill multiple people are so common in this country that they often do not even make national news. They are a regular feature of American life. Tulsa has become the latest example — yet another gun crime that seems almost ordinary here and yet would be extremely rare in any other country as wealthy as the U.S."Yet it happens again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and...My point is that shooting are so common now, most of them go unnoticed. The Times listed the shooting this year that killed at least 3 people:2022, so far
Jan. 19, Baltimore: A man who worked for a gun violence reduction program was killed in an East Baltimore neighborhood, along with two others. A fourth person was injured.
Jan. 23, Milwaukee: Five men and a woman were found shot to death at a Park West neighborhood home. The police believe the attack targeted specific people.
Jan. 23, Inglewood, Calif.: The same day, a shooting at a birthday party killed four people, including two sisters, and wounded a fifth. The shooting was gang-related, the mayor said.
Jan. 29, St. Louis: A shooting near an intersection killed three young men and wounded a fourth. Police said they had no suspects.
Feb. 5, Corsicana and Frost, Texas: A 41-year-old man murdered his mother, his stepfather, his sons and the son of his ex-girlfriend in an overnight shooting. The man later fatally shot himself.
Feb. 28, Sacramento: A man shot dead his three daughters and their chaperone at a church during a court-approved visit. The children’s mother had a restraining order against the shooter, who killed himself.
March 12, Baltimore: A shooting in Northwest Baltimore killed three men in a car and wounded a fourth.
March 19, Fayetteville, N.C.: A Saturday night shootout in a hotel parking lot killed three people and wounded another three. The shooting may have been linked to a fight between motorcycle gangs.
March 19, Norfolk, Va.: Hours later, an argument outside a bar escalated into a shooting that killed three young bystanders. One of the victims was a 25-year-old newspaper reporter whose editor called her to cover the shooting, not realizing she had been killed.
April 3, Sacramento: At least five shooters fired more than 100 rounds a block from the State Capitol, killing six people — three men and three women — and wounding 12. The police described the shooting as gang-related.
April 20, Duluth, Minn.: A 29-year-old man who said he suffered from mental illness killed his aunt, uncle, two young cousins and their dog in their sleep. He later killed himself.
April 21, Mountain View, Ark.: A man killed his parents, another woman and her son at two homes half a mile apart in a rural community, the police say.
April 27, Biloxi, Miss.: A 32-year-old man killed the owner of the Broadway Inn Express motel and two employees in an argument over money. He fled to a neighboring town and fatally shot a fourth person. Police later found the gunman dead, barricaded inside a convenience store.
May 8, Clarkston, Ga.: Three people were shot to death and three others were wounded at a suburban Atlanta condo complex on a Sunday night.
May 14, Buffalo: An 18-year-old avowed white supremacist killed 10 people and wounded three more with an assault-style weapon in a live-streamed attack at a supermarket.
May 24, Uvalde, Texas: An 18-year-old gunman killed 19 students and two teachers at Robb Elementary School.
May 27, Stanwood, Mich.: A 51-year-old man allegedly killed his wife and her three young children at a home in Mecosta County before shooting himself, police said. The man remains in critical condition.
June 1, Tulsa, Okla.: A gunman killed his back surgeon, another doctor, a receptionist and a visitor at a medical building. He then killed himself.
We had a mass shooting in the subway. That barely made any headlines 1 because nobody was killed 2 not an AR and the only reason it might still is because there were 2 in NY at one time.
The media has a job, to sell advertising. Unfortunately those other shootings don't mean squat to the moneyline.
Don't fret though as one of the victims is suing Glock over the subway one. This will be interesting.
I say AR so everyone does understand what I am talking about and that does seem to be the weapon of choice. I can say "AR type" if those buzzwords are ok w everybody as I am the last person to need an update on the proper terminology.
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/may-individual-between-ages-18-and-21-years-age-acquire-handgun-unlicensed-individual
https://giffords.org/lawcenter/gun-laws/policy-areas/who-can-have-a-gun/minimum-age/
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tempo_n_groove said:
1-For Brians list it is true.HughFreakingDillon said:HughFreakingDillon said:
sentence 1 is not true.tempo_n_groove said:
Yes and again, it's not national news unless it w an AR.brianlux said:tempo_n_groove said:
Usually because it was with a handgun and not an AR. The AR story is newsworthy and a handgun is not.brianlux said:Related to what I said yesterday above, this is from a NY Times article this morning:"Shootings that kill multiple people are so common in this country that they often do not even make national news. They are a regular feature of American life. Tulsa has become the latest example — yet another gun crime that seems almost ordinary here and yet would be extremely rare in any other country as wealthy as the U.S."Yet it happens again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and...My point is that shooting are so common now, most of them go unnoticed. The Times listed the shooting this year that killed at least 3 people:2022, so far
Jan. 19, Baltimore: A man who worked for a gun violence reduction program was killed in an East Baltimore neighborhood, along with two others. A fourth person was injured.
Jan. 23, Milwaukee: Five men and a woman were found shot to death at a Park West neighborhood home. The police believe the attack targeted specific people.
Jan. 23, Inglewood, Calif.: The same day, a shooting at a birthday party killed four people, including two sisters, and wounded a fifth. The shooting was gang-related, the mayor said.
Jan. 29, St. Louis: A shooting near an intersection killed three young men and wounded a fourth. Police said they had no suspects.
Feb. 5, Corsicana and Frost, Texas: A 41-year-old man murdered his mother, his stepfather, his sons and the son of his ex-girlfriend in an overnight shooting. The man later fatally shot himself.
Feb. 28, Sacramento: A man shot dead his three daughters and their chaperone at a church during a court-approved visit. The children’s mother had a restraining order against the shooter, who killed himself.
March 12, Baltimore: A shooting in Northwest Baltimore killed three men in a car and wounded a fourth.
March 19, Fayetteville, N.C.: A Saturday night shootout in a hotel parking lot killed three people and wounded another three. The shooting may have been linked to a fight between motorcycle gangs.
March 19, Norfolk, Va.: Hours later, an argument outside a bar escalated into a shooting that killed three young bystanders. One of the victims was a 25-year-old newspaper reporter whose editor called her to cover the shooting, not realizing she had been killed.
April 3, Sacramento: At least five shooters fired more than 100 rounds a block from the State Capitol, killing six people — three men and three women — and wounding 12. The police described the shooting as gang-related.
April 20, Duluth, Minn.: A 29-year-old man who said he suffered from mental illness killed his aunt, uncle, two young cousins and their dog in their sleep. He later killed himself.
April 21, Mountain View, Ark.: A man killed his parents, another woman and her son at two homes half a mile apart in a rural community, the police say.
April 27, Biloxi, Miss.: A 32-year-old man killed the owner of the Broadway Inn Express motel and two employees in an argument over money. He fled to a neighboring town and fatally shot a fourth person. Police later found the gunman dead, barricaded inside a convenience store.
May 8, Clarkston, Ga.: Three people were shot to death and three others were wounded at a suburban Atlanta condo complex on a Sunday night.
May 14, Buffalo: An 18-year-old avowed white supremacist killed 10 people and wounded three more with an assault-style weapon in a live-streamed attack at a supermarket.
May 24, Uvalde, Texas: An 18-year-old gunman killed 19 students and two teachers at Robb Elementary School.
May 27, Stanwood, Mich.: A 51-year-old man allegedly killed his wife and her three young children at a home in Mecosta County before shooting himself, police said. The man remains in critical condition.
June 1, Tulsa, Okla.: A gunman killed his back surgeon, another doctor, a receptionist and a visitor at a medical building. He then killed himself.
We had a mass shooting in the subway. That barely made any headlines 1 because nobody was killed 2 not an AR and the only reason it might still is because there were 2 in NY at one time.
The media has a job, to sell advertising. Unfortunately those other shootings don't mean squat to the moneyline.
Don't fret though as one of the victims is suing Glock over the subway one. This will be interesting.
paragraph 2: it did make national, international headlines even. I heard about it almost immediately. It was all over the place.
Paragraph 3: partially correct. yes, the media goes with the most sensationalistic stories. no question. however, they give the public what they want, and that is "the bigger the tragedy, the longer it stays in the news cycle". it has zero to do with the type of gun used. It has everything to do with how many people were injured/killed and who it was. it's obviously going to be seen as a much bigger tragedy if it's a bunch of kids minding their own business trying to learn how to spell. It's a crime that is harder for the general public to understand, hence why it stays around longer.
Please explain?
2-I corrected myself.
3-again this was towards Brians list
If anything the point you're making reinforces the need for stricter gun control. There are simply far too many shootings occurring in the US for people to keep track of.
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k, well, it's kind of an odd argument to make. if an AR isn't used, the casualty count is generally going to be MUCH smaller, which is why it doesn't make as much news. that's just math, not media.tempo_n_groove said:
1-For Brians list it is true.HughFreakingDillon said:HughFreakingDillon said:
sentence 1 is not true.tempo_n_groove said:
Yes and again, it's not national news unless it w an AR.brianlux said:tempo_n_groove said:
Usually because it was with a handgun and not an AR. The AR story is newsworthy and a handgun is not.brianlux said:Related to what I said yesterday above, this is from a NY Times article this morning:"Shootings that kill multiple people are so common in this country that they often do not even make national news. They are a regular feature of American life. Tulsa has become the latest example — yet another gun crime that seems almost ordinary here and yet would be extremely rare in any other country as wealthy as the U.S."Yet it happens again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and...My point is that shooting are so common now, most of them go unnoticed. The Times listed the shooting this year that killed at least 3 people:2022, so far
Jan. 19, Baltimore: A man who worked for a gun violence reduction program was killed in an East Baltimore neighborhood, along with two others. A fourth person was injured.
Jan. 23, Milwaukee: Five men and a woman were found shot to death at a Park West neighborhood home. The police believe the attack targeted specific people.
Jan. 23, Inglewood, Calif.: The same day, a shooting at a birthday party killed four people, including two sisters, and wounded a fifth. The shooting was gang-related, the mayor said.
Jan. 29, St. Louis: A shooting near an intersection killed three young men and wounded a fourth. Police said they had no suspects.
Feb. 5, Corsicana and Frost, Texas: A 41-year-old man murdered his mother, his stepfather, his sons and the son of his ex-girlfriend in an overnight shooting. The man later fatally shot himself.
Feb. 28, Sacramento: A man shot dead his three daughters and their chaperone at a church during a court-approved visit. The children’s mother had a restraining order against the shooter, who killed himself.
March 12, Baltimore: A shooting in Northwest Baltimore killed three men in a car and wounded a fourth.
March 19, Fayetteville, N.C.: A Saturday night shootout in a hotel parking lot killed three people and wounded another three. The shooting may have been linked to a fight between motorcycle gangs.
March 19, Norfolk, Va.: Hours later, an argument outside a bar escalated into a shooting that killed three young bystanders. One of the victims was a 25-year-old newspaper reporter whose editor called her to cover the shooting, not realizing she had been killed.
April 3, Sacramento: At least five shooters fired more than 100 rounds a block from the State Capitol, killing six people — three men and three women — and wounding 12. The police described the shooting as gang-related.
April 20, Duluth, Minn.: A 29-year-old man who said he suffered from mental illness killed his aunt, uncle, two young cousins and their dog in their sleep. He later killed himself.
April 21, Mountain View, Ark.: A man killed his parents, another woman and her son at two homes half a mile apart in a rural community, the police say.
April 27, Biloxi, Miss.: A 32-year-old man killed the owner of the Broadway Inn Express motel and two employees in an argument over money. He fled to a neighboring town and fatally shot a fourth person. Police later found the gunman dead, barricaded inside a convenience store.
May 8, Clarkston, Ga.: Three people were shot to death and three others were wounded at a suburban Atlanta condo complex on a Sunday night.
May 14, Buffalo: An 18-year-old avowed white supremacist killed 10 people and wounded three more with an assault-style weapon in a live-streamed attack at a supermarket.
May 24, Uvalde, Texas: An 18-year-old gunman killed 19 students and two teachers at Robb Elementary School.
May 27, Stanwood, Mich.: A 51-year-old man allegedly killed his wife and her three young children at a home in Mecosta County before shooting himself, police said. The man remains in critical condition.
June 1, Tulsa, Okla.: A gunman killed his back surgeon, another doctor, a receptionist and a visitor at a medical building. He then killed himself.
We had a mass shooting in the subway. That barely made any headlines 1 because nobody was killed 2 not an AR and the only reason it might still is because there were 2 in NY at one time.
The media has a job, to sell advertising. Unfortunately those other shootings don't mean squat to the moneyline.
Don't fret though as one of the victims is suing Glock over the subway one. This will be interesting.
paragraph 2: it did make national, international headlines even. I heard about it almost immediately. It was all over the place.
Paragraph 3: partially correct. yes, the media goes with the most sensationalistic stories. no question. however, they give the public what they want, and that is "the bigger the tragedy, the longer it stays in the news cycle". it has zero to do with the type of gun used. It has everything to do with how many people were injured/killed and who it was. it's obviously going to be seen as a much bigger tragedy if it's a bunch of kids minding their own business trying to learn how to spell. It's a crime that is harder for the general public to understand, hence why it stays around longer.
Please explain?
2-I corrected myself.
3-again this was towards Brians listBy The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
I literally just found this too. I have made zero purchases outside of a FFL dealer and would never consider selling to a 19yo. I don't agree with this law at all actually but it falls under a states rights.tbergs said:
A lot of them do.tempo_n_groove said:
I'm having a hard time finding any state that actually allows that. I keep pulling up that ATF section and 18 for rifles and 21 for handguns for each state.tbergs said:
Not true. It's part of the loophole.tempo_n_groove said:
You can not legally buy a handgun person to person before the age of 21.tbergs said:
Well, I respectfully disagree. I care, and so do a majority of people, but banning/limiting handguns isn't going to happen any time soon so people are focusing on the deadly rifles used in a multitude of mass shootings, mainly at schools. Probably because an 18 year old can buy an AR, but not a handgun, unless of course it's a private sale, so that's the weapon of choice. And yeah, when people on here say AR, they mean any gun like that with that capability, not just an AR-15. You don't need to keep bringing it up. I think you know what we mean by this point.tempo_n_groove said:
Yes and again, it's not national news unless it w an AR.brianlux said:tempo_n_groove said:
Usually because it was with a handgun and not an AR. The AR story is newsworthy and a handgun is not.brianlux said:Related to what I said yesterday above, this is from a NY Times article this morning:"Shootings that kill multiple people are so common in this country that they often do not even make national news. They are a regular feature of American life. Tulsa has become the latest example — yet another gun crime that seems almost ordinary here and yet would be extremely rare in any other country as wealthy as the U.S."Yet it happens again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and...My point is that shooting are so common now, most of them go unnoticed. The Times listed the shooting this year that killed at least 3 people:2022, so far
Jan. 19, Baltimore: A man who worked for a gun violence reduction program was killed in an East Baltimore neighborhood, along with two others. A fourth person was injured.
Jan. 23, Milwaukee: Five men and a woman were found shot to death at a Park West neighborhood home. The police believe the attack targeted specific people.
Jan. 23, Inglewood, Calif.: The same day, a shooting at a birthday party killed four people, including two sisters, and wounded a fifth. The shooting was gang-related, the mayor said.
Jan. 29, St. Louis: A shooting near an intersection killed three young men and wounded a fourth. Police said they had no suspects.
Feb. 5, Corsicana and Frost, Texas: A 41-year-old man murdered his mother, his stepfather, his sons and the son of his ex-girlfriend in an overnight shooting. The man later fatally shot himself.
Feb. 28, Sacramento: A man shot dead his three daughters and their chaperone at a church during a court-approved visit. The children’s mother had a restraining order against the shooter, who killed himself.
March 12, Baltimore: A shooting in Northwest Baltimore killed three men in a car and wounded a fourth.
March 19, Fayetteville, N.C.: A Saturday night shootout in a hotel parking lot killed three people and wounded another three. The shooting may have been linked to a fight between motorcycle gangs.
March 19, Norfolk, Va.: Hours later, an argument outside a bar escalated into a shooting that killed three young bystanders. One of the victims was a 25-year-old newspaper reporter whose editor called her to cover the shooting, not realizing she had been killed.
April 3, Sacramento: At least five shooters fired more than 100 rounds a block from the State Capitol, killing six people — three men and three women — and wounding 12. The police described the shooting as gang-related.
April 20, Duluth, Minn.: A 29-year-old man who said he suffered from mental illness killed his aunt, uncle, two young cousins and their dog in their sleep. He later killed himself.
April 21, Mountain View, Ark.: A man killed his parents, another woman and her son at two homes half a mile apart in a rural community, the police say.
April 27, Biloxi, Miss.: A 32-year-old man killed the owner of the Broadway Inn Express motel and two employees in an argument over money. He fled to a neighboring town and fatally shot a fourth person. Police later found the gunman dead, barricaded inside a convenience store.
May 8, Clarkston, Ga.: Three people were shot to death and three others were wounded at a suburban Atlanta condo complex on a Sunday night.
May 14, Buffalo: An 18-year-old avowed white supremacist killed 10 people and wounded three more with an assault-style weapon in a live-streamed attack at a supermarket.
May 24, Uvalde, Texas: An 18-year-old gunman killed 19 students and two teachers at Robb Elementary School.
May 27, Stanwood, Mich.: A 51-year-old man allegedly killed his wife and her three young children at a home in Mecosta County before shooting himself, police said. The man remains in critical condition.
June 1, Tulsa, Okla.: A gunman killed his back surgeon, another doctor, a receptionist and a visitor at a medical building. He then killed himself.
We had a mass shooting in the subway. That barely made any headlines 1 because nobody was killed 2 not an AR and the only reason it might still is because there were 2 in NY at one time.
The media has a job, to sell advertising. Unfortunately those other shootings don't mean squat to the moneyline.
Don't fret though as one of the victims is suing Glock over the subway one. This will be interesting.
I say AR so everyone does understand what I am talking about and that does seem to be the weapon of choice. I can say "AR type" if those buzzwords are ok w everybody as I am the last person to need an update on the proper terminology.
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/may-individual-between-ages-18-and-21-years-age-acquire-handgun-unlicensed-individual
https://giffords.org/lawcenter/gun-laws/policy-areas/who-can-have-a-gun/minimum-age/
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Yes, in fact, I’m still reading about it as one of the victims is suing the firearm manufacturer. For an event that resulted in 0 deaths, occurred over a month ago and has since been overshadowed by the massacres in Buffalo and Uvalde, I wouldn’t expect to be reading about it now. But you said “it barely made headlines” and tried to blame that on the type of gun used.tempo_n_groove said:
Still reading about it? It's all but forgotten here in NY.Halifax2TheMax said:
The NYC subway shooting “barely” made headlines? You’re kidding, right?tempo_n_groove said:
Yes and again, it's not national news unless it w an AR.brianlux said:tempo_n_groove said:
Usually because it was with a handgun and not an AR. The AR story is newsworthy and a handgun is not.brianlux said:Related to what I said yesterday above, this is from a NY Times article this morning:"Shootings that kill multiple people are so common in this country that they often do not even make national news. They are a regular feature of American life. Tulsa has become the latest example — yet another gun crime that seems almost ordinary here and yet would be extremely rare in any other country as wealthy as the U.S."Yet it happens again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and...My point is that shooting are so common now, most of them go unnoticed. The Times listed the shooting this year that killed at least 3 people:2022, so far
Jan. 19, Baltimore: A man who worked for a gun violence reduction program was killed in an East Baltimore neighborhood, along with two others. A fourth person was injured.
Jan. 23, Milwaukee: Five men and a woman were found shot to death at a Park West neighborhood home. The police believe the attack targeted specific people.
Jan. 23, Inglewood, Calif.: The same day, a shooting at a birthday party killed four people, including two sisters, and wounded a fifth. The shooting was gang-related, the mayor said.
Jan. 29, St. Louis: A shooting near an intersection killed three young men and wounded a fourth. Police said they had no suspects.
Feb. 5, Corsicana and Frost, Texas: A 41-year-old man murdered his mother, his stepfather, his sons and the son of his ex-girlfriend in an overnight shooting. The man later fatally shot himself.
Feb. 28, Sacramento: A man shot dead his three daughters and their chaperone at a church during a court-approved visit. The children’s mother had a restraining order against the shooter, who killed himself.
March 12, Baltimore: A shooting in Northwest Baltimore killed three men in a car and wounded a fourth.
March 19, Fayetteville, N.C.: A Saturday night shootout in a hotel parking lot killed three people and wounded another three. The shooting may have been linked to a fight between motorcycle gangs.
March 19, Norfolk, Va.: Hours later, an argument outside a bar escalated into a shooting that killed three young bystanders. One of the victims was a 25-year-old newspaper reporter whose editor called her to cover the shooting, not realizing she had been killed.
April 3, Sacramento: At least five shooters fired more than 100 rounds a block from the State Capitol, killing six people — three men and three women — and wounding 12. The police described the shooting as gang-related.
April 20, Duluth, Minn.: A 29-year-old man who said he suffered from mental illness killed his aunt, uncle, two young cousins and their dog in their sleep. He later killed himself.
April 21, Mountain View, Ark.: A man killed his parents, another woman and her son at two homes half a mile apart in a rural community, the police say.
April 27, Biloxi, Miss.: A 32-year-old man killed the owner of the Broadway Inn Express motel and two employees in an argument over money. He fled to a neighboring town and fatally shot a fourth person. Police later found the gunman dead, barricaded inside a convenience store.
May 8, Clarkston, Ga.: Three people were shot to death and three others were wounded at a suburban Atlanta condo complex on a Sunday night.
May 14, Buffalo: An 18-year-old avowed white supremacist killed 10 people and wounded three more with an assault-style weapon in a live-streamed attack at a supermarket.
May 24, Uvalde, Texas: An 18-year-old gunman killed 19 students and two teachers at Robb Elementary School.
May 27, Stanwood, Mich.: A 51-year-old man allegedly killed his wife and her three young children at a home in Mecosta County before shooting himself, police said. The man remains in critical condition.
June 1, Tulsa, Okla.: A gunman killed his back surgeon, another doctor, a receptionist and a visitor at a medical building. He then killed himself.
We had a mass shooting in the subway. That barely made any headlines 1 because nobody was killed 2 not an AR and the only reason it might still is because there were 2 in NY at one time.
The media has a job, to sell advertising. Unfortunately those other shootings don't mean squat to the moneyline.
Don't fret though as one of the victims is suing Glock over the subway one. This will be interesting.
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I mentioned that in my initial post, the suing of Glock. I also mentioned what I should have said and corrected myself a few posts back...Halifax2TheMax said:
Yes, in fact, I’m still reading about it as one of the victims is suing the firearm manufacturer. For an event that resulted in 0 deaths, occurred over a month ago and has since been overshadowed by the massacres in Buffalo and Uvalde, I wouldn’t expect to be reading about it now. But you said “it barely made headlines” and tried to blame that on the type of gun used.tempo_n_groove said:
Still reading about it? It's all but forgotten here in NY.Halifax2TheMax said:
The NYC subway shooting “barely” made headlines? You’re kidding, right?tempo_n_groove said:
Yes and again, it's not national news unless it w an AR.brianlux said:tempo_n_groove said:
Usually because it was with a handgun and not an AR. The AR story is newsworthy and a handgun is not.brianlux said:Related to what I said yesterday above, this is from a NY Times article this morning:"Shootings that kill multiple people are so common in this country that they often do not even make national news. They are a regular feature of American life. Tulsa has become the latest example — yet another gun crime that seems almost ordinary here and yet would be extremely rare in any other country as wealthy as the U.S."Yet it happens again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and...My point is that shooting are so common now, most of them go unnoticed. The Times listed the shooting this year that killed at least 3 people:2022, so far
Jan. 19, Baltimore: A man who worked for a gun violence reduction program was killed in an East Baltimore neighborhood, along with two others. A fourth person was injured.
Jan. 23, Milwaukee: Five men and a woman were found shot to death at a Park West neighborhood home. The police believe the attack targeted specific people.
Jan. 23, Inglewood, Calif.: The same day, a shooting at a birthday party killed four people, including two sisters, and wounded a fifth. The shooting was gang-related, the mayor said.
Jan. 29, St. Louis: A shooting near an intersection killed three young men and wounded a fourth. Police said they had no suspects.
Feb. 5, Corsicana and Frost, Texas: A 41-year-old man murdered his mother, his stepfather, his sons and the son of his ex-girlfriend in an overnight shooting. The man later fatally shot himself.
Feb. 28, Sacramento: A man shot dead his three daughters and their chaperone at a church during a court-approved visit. The children’s mother had a restraining order against the shooter, who killed himself.
March 12, Baltimore: A shooting in Northwest Baltimore killed three men in a car and wounded a fourth.
March 19, Fayetteville, N.C.: A Saturday night shootout in a hotel parking lot killed three people and wounded another three. The shooting may have been linked to a fight between motorcycle gangs.
March 19, Norfolk, Va.: Hours later, an argument outside a bar escalated into a shooting that killed three young bystanders. One of the victims was a 25-year-old newspaper reporter whose editor called her to cover the shooting, not realizing she had been killed.
April 3, Sacramento: At least five shooters fired more than 100 rounds a block from the State Capitol, killing six people — three men and three women — and wounding 12. The police described the shooting as gang-related.
April 20, Duluth, Minn.: A 29-year-old man who said he suffered from mental illness killed his aunt, uncle, two young cousins and their dog in their sleep. He later killed himself.
April 21, Mountain View, Ark.: A man killed his parents, another woman and her son at two homes half a mile apart in a rural community, the police say.
April 27, Biloxi, Miss.: A 32-year-old man killed the owner of the Broadway Inn Express motel and two employees in an argument over money. He fled to a neighboring town and fatally shot a fourth person. Police later found the gunman dead, barricaded inside a convenience store.
May 8, Clarkston, Ga.: Three people were shot to death and three others were wounded at a suburban Atlanta condo complex on a Sunday night.
May 14, Buffalo: An 18-year-old avowed white supremacist killed 10 people and wounded three more with an assault-style weapon in a live-streamed attack at a supermarket.
May 24, Uvalde, Texas: An 18-year-old gunman killed 19 students and two teachers at Robb Elementary School.
May 27, Stanwood, Mich.: A 51-year-old man allegedly killed his wife and her three young children at a home in Mecosta County before shooting himself, police said. The man remains in critical condition.
June 1, Tulsa, Okla.: A gunman killed his back surgeon, another doctor, a receptionist and a visitor at a medical building. He then killed himself.
We had a mass shooting in the subway. That barely made any headlines 1 because nobody was killed 2 not an AR and the only reason it might still is because there were 2 in NY at one time.
The media has a job, to sell advertising. Unfortunately those other shootings don't mean squat to the moneyline.
Don't fret though as one of the victims is suing Glock over the subway one. This will be interesting.
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unintentional shooting is higher, by a lot, than defensive use. that's telling.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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HughFreakingDillon said:unintentional shooting is higher, by a lot, than defensive use. that's telling.
- A National Institutes of Health study found that for each time a gun is used for self-defense, there are 11 suicide attempts involving firearms, seven assaults or murders and four gun accidents.
- Another National Institutes of Health study discovered that owning a gun drastically increases the risk of gun violence in domestic violence cases. They found that a firearm in a home with a history of domestic violence correlates to a 500 percent greater chance that a woman will be killed.
- One study published in the American Journal of Public Health found that the odds of an assault victim being shot increased 4.5 times if they carried a gun, and the odds of them being killed increased 4.2 times.
- A study published in the Journal of Preventive Medicine found that using guns for self-defense during a robbery doesn’t lower one’s odds of being injured.
https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?ID=6CF30B5D-56C8-45DD-9D7C-B8D09818BBD8
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tempo_n_groove said:
Still reading about it? It's all but forgotten here in NY.Halifax2TheMax said:
The NYC subway shooting “barely” made headlines? You’re kidding, right?tempo_n_groove said:
Yes and again, it's not national news unless it w an AR.brianlux said:tempo_n_groove said:
Usually because it was with a handgun and not an AR. The AR story is newsworthy and a handgun is not.brianlux said:Related to what I said yesterday above, this is from a NY Times article this morning:"Shootings that kill multiple people are so common in this country that they often do not even make national news. They are a regular feature of American life. Tulsa has become the latest example — yet another gun crime that seems almost ordinary here and yet would be extremely rare in any other country as wealthy as the U.S."Yet it happens again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and...My point is that shooting are so common now, most of them go unnoticed. The Times listed the shooting this year that killed at least 3 people:2022, so far
Jan. 19, Baltimore: A man who worked for a gun violence reduction program was killed in an East Baltimore neighborhood, along with two others. A fourth person was injured.
Jan. 23, Milwaukee: Five men and a woman were found shot to death at a Park West neighborhood home. The police believe the attack targeted specific people.
Jan. 23, Inglewood, Calif.: The same day, a shooting at a birthday party killed four people, including two sisters, and wounded a fifth. The shooting was gang-related, the mayor said.
Jan. 29, St. Louis: A shooting near an intersection killed three young men and wounded a fourth. Police said they had no suspects.
Feb. 5, Corsicana and Frost, Texas: A 41-year-old man murdered his mother, his stepfather, his sons and the son of his ex-girlfriend in an overnight shooting. The man later fatally shot himself.
Feb. 28, Sacramento: A man shot dead his three daughters and their chaperone at a church during a court-approved visit. The children’s mother had a restraining order against the shooter, who killed himself.
March 12, Baltimore: A shooting in Northwest Baltimore killed three men in a car and wounded a fourth.
March 19, Fayetteville, N.C.: A Saturday night shootout in a hotel parking lot killed three people and wounded another three. The shooting may have been linked to a fight between motorcycle gangs.
March 19, Norfolk, Va.: Hours later, an argument outside a bar escalated into a shooting that killed three young bystanders. One of the victims was a 25-year-old newspaper reporter whose editor called her to cover the shooting, not realizing she had been killed.
April 3, Sacramento: At least five shooters fired more than 100 rounds a block from the State Capitol, killing six people — three men and three women — and wounding 12. The police described the shooting as gang-related.
April 20, Duluth, Minn.: A 29-year-old man who said he suffered from mental illness killed his aunt, uncle, two young cousins and their dog in their sleep. He later killed himself.
April 21, Mountain View, Ark.: A man killed his parents, another woman and her son at two homes half a mile apart in a rural community, the police say.
April 27, Biloxi, Miss.: A 32-year-old man killed the owner of the Broadway Inn Express motel and two employees in an argument over money. He fled to a neighboring town and fatally shot a fourth person. Police later found the gunman dead, barricaded inside a convenience store.
May 8, Clarkston, Ga.: Three people were shot to death and three others were wounded at a suburban Atlanta condo complex on a Sunday night.
May 14, Buffalo: An 18-year-old avowed white supremacist killed 10 people and wounded three more with an assault-style weapon in a live-streamed attack at a supermarket.
May 24, Uvalde, Texas: An 18-year-old gunman killed 19 students and two teachers at Robb Elementary School.
May 27, Stanwood, Mich.: A 51-year-old man allegedly killed his wife and her three young children at a home in Mecosta County before shooting himself, police said. The man remains in critical condition.
June 1, Tulsa, Okla.: A gunman killed his back surgeon, another doctor, a receptionist and a visitor at a medical building. He then killed himself.
We had a mass shooting in the subway. That barely made any headlines 1 because nobody was killed 2 not an AR and the only reason it might still is because there were 2 in NY at one time.
The media has a job, to sell advertising. Unfortunately those other shootings don't mean squat to the moneyline.
Don't fret though as one of the victims is suing Glock over the subway one. This will be interesting.guy was caught, yes?basic understanding of motive. yes? covered his history, yes?justice system is doing its thing, yes?did I forget anything?if not. what else is there to report on?_____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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